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    HP Envy 14" Radiance 900p vs. 15" Ultra Brightview 1080p

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Lvivkse, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    What kind of difference are we talking here, if any?
     
  2. neothe0ne

    neothe0ne Notebook Consultant

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    HD 5650 vs HD 5830? lol
     
  3. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    the display, not the GPU
     
  4. nikeseven

    nikeseven Notebook Deity

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    You'll get an extra 180 pixels height wise
     
  5. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    it may look betterer...

    I dunno.
     
  6. laststop311

    laststop311 Notebook Deity

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    With screen sizes that small the pixel density is so tight there is no way the human eye can perceive a 900p video on 14.5" vs a 1080p video on 15". Now if you are viewing websites a few more lines of text will be displayed vertically on the 1080p but text will be a little smaller. Screen real estate will be almost identical though and video will be identical as its impossible for the human eye to perceive 900p vs 1080p on such small screens.

    Now as far as other factors. The radiance display is the brightest display other then the crazy bright displays on the toughbooks. So the radiance display is brighter then the ultra bright 15". This means viewing outside in the sunlight will be better on the radiance display. The radiance display also has a bigger color gamut then the 15" ultra bright. This means colors will look more natural and more the way they were intended to be. The contrast ratio is also higher on the radiance display meaning there is a larger disparity between the blackest black and the whitest white on the radiance vs the ultrabright. This means when viewing in a dark room the image will have much more "pop" and black will look closer to black on the radiance display more so then the ultrabright display which will probly lean more towards grey then black.

    In conclusion the radiance display just destroys the 15" ultrabright. The only benefit the 15" has is it's a little larger but in reality its not even 1 inch larger. So 14.5" Radiance display is the undisputed champion in that face off.
     
  7. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    thanks laststop, that's what i was looking for
     
  8. laststop311

    laststop311 Notebook Deity

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    no problem + reps are appreciated :)
     
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    worx Notebook Consultant

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    How would the Radiance display go up against RGB LED back lit displays?
     
  10. neothe0ne

    neothe0ne Notebook Consultant

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    But honestly, even the generic LED-backlit display on my HP dv3t-2000 CTO is way too bright at maximum brightness. I almost always leave it at the lowest brightness setting that the function keys let me tune it to.

    Which is why in "practical" terms, the difference between Envy 14 screen and Envy 15 screen is HD 5650 vs HD 5830.
     
  11. laststop311

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    tough to say as we havent seen the radiance display in person yet. According to HP's hype the radiance display is supposed to have an extremely accurate color gamut vibrant colors and contrast ratio that makes the image pop off the screen. In the video's I've seen the radiance display does look much better then anything around it.

    As far as contrast ratio the radiance display is the best screen. It's going to have the most vibrant colors, the deepest blacks and the most pop of any screen. RGB LED screens are known for their color accuracy so I'm not sure which screen will win in that area but it will be close. I'm fairly certain overall the radiance screen will be nicer to look at. I'm very excited about the radiance screen it's gonna be very pleasing to the eyes.
     
  12. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    didnt the envy 13 have a radiance?
     
  13. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Yup, a 400 nit radiance display, the Envy 14 has a 350 nit radiance display, the Envy 15 has a 300 nit brightview display. Since the screen on the Envy 13 was absolutely astounding, I figure the Envy 14 screen will be very very good and bright, it's only a 50 nit drop.
     
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    dsnvraju Notebook Geek

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    Hi All,

    Will 1600x900 resolution look better on Envy 14 for reading the we content ?.
    How small the font look for 1600x900 vs 1376x768 ?

    Regards
     
  15. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    font's bigger on the 1366x768.


    font can be adjusted though on the 1600x900 in windows if you mess around in the personalization stuff (hell windows 7 can zoom in by so and so % in general)
     
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    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    font can be adjusted on the 1366x768 as well.


    just saying that you can, if need be, make it bigger on the 1600x900 if you can't read it well
     
  17. lagitup

    lagitup Notebook Consultant

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    I'd put my money on the RGBLED every time. In anandtech's tests the RGBLED got, like, 116% of whatever gamut they were using whereas HP isn't even claiming that the Radiance will get over 90%
     
  18. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    why do you claim the pixel density will be so good that the eye cant see it?

    i can see the pixels on my current vaio, which is like a 1280x740 13.1"

    would be similar pixels/inch, no?

    im concerned about the lower, weird 900p resolution on the NV14
     
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    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    so i was just at bestbuy comparing the 1080p 15 and the radiance on the 13....

    ...holy crap, radiance sucks. its contrast is just off the rocker, the color gamut is larger but the colors are so far removed from reality it looks like an acid trip. i tweaked around the GPU's cp to get it right but couldnt find a sweet spot

    yes, its brighter, but maybe too bright for normal use. i could see myself dropping it down a notch for sure.

    viewing angles looked pretty similar between the two. 13 had an edge, but that was likely due to its brightness.
     
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    Isn't it kind of rule of thumb to not ask for reps?
     
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    Go check your eyes buddy. The radiance panels are great panels.
     
  22. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    maybe if calibrated properly, but on default the one i saw was a joke
     
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    So the screen wasn't bad, it was just poor calibration. Which isn't surprising given it's a store.

    Though which brick and mortar store carries E13's? I've never seen one in a store before.
     
  24. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    i've seen 13s at both bestbuy and futureshop

    bear in mind the calibration was default, its not like they jacked everything up to max like they do on tvs....the whites looked better on the 15 IMO, and though the viewing angles on the 13 were better in terms of it not washing out as much, i wouldnt give the 13 an advantage in anything other than color strength

    black levels were better on the 15, likely due to the 13's lamp being so bright. even on a notch down....draw at best, but i gave the edge to the 15
     
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    Rampant Speculation Notebook Guru

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    Microcenter.
     
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    derpderp Notebook Evangelist

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    One point you guys are forgetting is...
    more brightness = less visible reflections outdoors or whenever not in the dark, I'd take that over any black/white contrast boost (and even then who knows if the radiance tone down a bit doesn't offer better or similar contrast) because in the end whenever theres a reflection around the radiance will have better visibility.
     
  27. klas

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    first time I hear that laptop screen needs to be calibrated, it either looks good or it doesn't. I went to local best buy in hopes to see 13" envy with radiance, but unfortunately did not have any on display. They did have however have every other laptop with average screens and then there was macbooks which had amazingly good screens.
     
  28. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    there's the chance that it's a faulty demo unit or something. i remember when seeing vaios on display @ bestbuy, the screens had major red push and the whites looked terrible compared to the one i bought. even the Z displays looked pinkish in person at bestbuy....but awesome at the sony store


    yeah but the reflections are a design flaw (the glass), not a tribute to the display

    i dont use my laptop outside...ever

    i mean, maybe if i get this i might start lounging on the porch more with my laptop, that'd be cool....