HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

I've had my 160gb intel x25-m nearly completely full (<5gb free) for the past 2 weeks while waiting for another one. According to crystal disk mark and hdd tune, it benchmarks at the exact same speeds as it did when new, and I can't tell a difference between it now, and when the only thing on it was an install of windows 7 pro on it. I would also assume that the 80% capacity / degradation formula is not true (atleast for new trim supporting drives)

 

Just a note about the Momentus XT: if you read the whole anandtech article you'll see that the 4gtb SSD can be confused rather easily and will drop, say, windows system files in exchange for a program that you open a few times, or whatever. While it *can* under certain use cases provide a marked performance difference, I wouldn't count on it being anything *near* a legit SSD - you get what you pay for.

 

Well, considering Anandtech article states that this drive should be in every notebook is a testament unto itself. Sure it isn't strict SSD, and anyone who expects that doesn't get the concept. If they never called it an SSD hybrid drive, but a strict "Advanced Read Ahead Cache Technology" (ARACT - hey that's catchy) or something like that nobody would be the wiser. But since they throw the SSD moniker in there people might expect it to perform as such.

It seems to be a great improvement over a traditional hard drive, still has large capacity, and a fraction of the cost of an SSD.

I'm tempted to order one and throw it in my laptop just to see how well it does compared with the SSD in my desktop. But I'm kind of tight on funds at the moment, however I'm sure I could offset the cost quite a bit by selling the HDD in my laptop (500 GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM).

 

Wow you live in rosemead too

 

I really like the idea of one of those Seagate hybrid drives in my Envy 14. However, I'll probably wait for the next generation, for more NAND and HDD capacity.

 

I just read up on that Momentus XT. I am definitely going to get one. Fantastic concept.

 

YouTube - Seagate Momentus XT

 

For the people with doubts about the performance degradation of the SSDs impacted by space area here is das link
The Impact of Spare Area on SandForce, More Capacity At No Performance Loss? - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

 

Can anyone chime in on the rough price that ENVY 14 will cost with the i5-540m, after BCB, coupons, discounts, etc, taxes, and shipping for Rosemead, CA?

Thankss

 

999

 

You serious? HOPE SO

 

We won't know until it comes out

 

The Envy 14 appears to be very nice, I hope the base components that have been talked about here are to everyone's liking once it comes out.

The idea of a Premium Laptop gives me other notions beyond appearance and standard internal components like every other mainstream laptop. If HP Envy is truly a Premium brand, the 14 will have features that no other HP laptop has, and should provide niche options of any other HP laptops.

HP Envy 14 - Wish List

-Intel Core i5 / Intel Core i7
-14.5" TouchSmart 3D 1080P
- ATI Radeon 5830
- 8 GB RAM
- Trusted Platform Module (TPM)
with AES New Instructions
- Phoenix "Fail-safe" BIOS, with remote tracking and data erase.
- Windows 7 Ultimate
with Touch Screen Pack
- Wi-Di Wireless Display
- Mogi 3G/CDMA/GRPS
- 1 TB Intel G3 SSD
- Interchangeable BluRay Writer with Light Scribe & Disc Encryption (password protects an entire disc with 128-bit encryption)
OR
- Interchangeable 1 TB Intel G3 SSD
- Biometric Security HD Night Vision Web Cam with Face & Hand Gesture Support
- eSATA
- USB 3.0
- USB 2.0
- HDMI
- MDP
- Audio In
- Audio Out
- 5 in 1 Card Reader
- Wireless A/B/G/N
- Bluetooth


Who's going to set the bar higher for HP, beyond appearance, form factor, and standard components all computers have?

How demanding are you about your money and investments?

What could we do with our Laptops?

 

kool unicorn

this is still looking better than any Acer or even ASUS laptop right now. Will I finally make a decision? :> June 27th should come quicker!

 

Real design doesn't work that way, kid.
That laptop would have cost about 3000 bucks, lose the slot loading drive (which quite a few people like), and have a 1-2 hour battery life or weigh about 9 pounds.

 

I found a good article talking, not sure if this has been linked or not yet.
HP Envy 14: Style and Power Starting at $999 (video) | Notebooks.com

 

that 1tb ssd alone wud be $3000... you're looking at $4500ish at least i'd say.

 

Those specs show i3 as an option. Another YouTube video (slashgear) with an interview with HP stated it was i5/i7 only. Also a couple photos I think are of the Envy 17 since it has the numberpad. I was like "what?" it comes with a numberpad? But other photos it is obviously missing.

 

Hi Guys,

I dont know if this is already posted. But i saw HP Envy 14 available on german site. Can anybody confirm it?

German HP Envy 14

How much if we convert the amt in USD?

Thanks,
Mahendra

 

The amount is 1299 €. And also is it released? Can anybody translate it?

 

not released yet, u can translate it with google translate if u want. It's pretty accurate.

about $1500

 

I used google translate to translate the specs but not able to do it for the availability details. Thats what wanted to know.

 

No laz0rs?

As for the price of this thing? I'll get one..
I mean, like, do I really need two kidneys?

 

I speak German!

I've been reading this thread for some time now and registred today in order to give you some answers related to the german HP website.

The Envy 14 is not available yet and no release date is given. I tried to contact a sales representative, but they postponed any answer to end of this week.

Yes, it starts with 1299 EUR but this includes sales tax. Aditionally, while being more expensive, the german "starting from" models are better equipped than the US "starting from" models. The german Envy14-1000eg as 4 gigs of RAM, 500 GB 7.200 rpm HDD and a i5 520M.

 

According to HP in Sweden they wont release it until august. You should hopefully get it in Germany way before that.

 

I especially like the USB 3.0 functionality, but I think HP is going to Steve-Jobs us on that feature (to Steve-Jobs: to remove a viable function from a product as to allow a refresh of the product at an increased price).

1080p on a 14.5" screen might strain user's eyes, though. Not to mention, as far as games and movies go, at 14.5" one probably couldn't tell the difference between 900p and 1080p. Also, that extra bump in FPS from the reduced resolution is invaluable.

I also think 1 TB of storage is far too expensive as of right now.

Otherwise, I think HP should try to do more than undercut the competition's price-point-- maybe by implementing some of the features you've listed.

 

yeah pretty much there is contradiction everywhere in terms of spec and pricing. and there's tons of speculation which doesn't help.

 

Sony Z users who have compared those two resolutions seem to indicate that they can see the difference and that is in a 13.3" display. I have no idea if they are really seeing a difference, or can't stand not having the highest resolution possible.

Bronsky

 

Not having seen a VAIO Z, I bet I could see the difference too... 320 horizontal pixels is a lot, even on a 13.3" screen. (That's not to say I'd like 1080p on a 13.3" screen though - I'd probably hate it.)

 

Was at Fry's today exploring their momorial day sale, and I specifically compared laptops w/ identical resolutions. On two 15.4 inch laptops, the 1080p screen provided tremendously crisp text, while the 900p laptop showed rather jagged text. I think those 180 pixels will still make a huge difference in even 14.5 inch laptops.

On a totally different note, the Asus G53 was announced today at Computex:

ASUS debuts 15.6-inch ROG G53 3D gaming laptop at Computex -- Engadget

Thoughts?

 

Its over an inch thicker than the Envy

 

Nice laptop, but I guess its weight about 6.5 lbs and more expansive than envy 14 (coupon/ cashback, etc)

 

Funny, because the Asus is more expansive than the envy 14 with its larger size.

 

I would support this type of laser addition in future laptops.

YouTube - Dr Evil and Showwx Pico Projector Online Favorite at CES

 

Any know if its a traditional mechanical hard drive or the hybrid Momentus XT?

On the German HP site it just says 500GB 7200rpm.

 

Traditional.

 

The HP should come standard with normal HDDs and normal SSDs. At least that's what the envy 17 has. I'll probably just do the upgrade myself; the momentus XT 500gb is a steal at 130$, considering what it offers in terms of speed.

 

Let's hope it will be availabe as an upgrade directly.

 

That EUR 1299 works out to be about US$1,600. For that price one could a very powerful laptop.

 

But you can't always compare converted costs. It all depends on the market and the US market tends to run a little cheaper usually.

 

The M3 is manufactured in Germany and BMW US sells it for cheaper here. Go figure .

 

What are the specs of the base model (900ish)? Is it a i5-430 along side a 5650?

 

This price is such a turn off...

 

$999

From what we've seen..

i5-430m
ATI 5650 switchable to Intel
1600x900 screen
^^ this may be lower, and you may have to upgrade, but we'll see.

 

Completely agree. We Americans have much to be thankful for with our consumer-driven economy. Over in Korea, prices for TVs and cars tend to run anywhere from 50-100% higher than what they sell for in America. The benefits of a free market economy include low trade barriers in the electronics industry and cutthroat competition among domestics and foreign companies to gain our dollars. This is the reason I don't panic when I see a soon-to-be-released notebook or car selling for so much more abroad. Foreign pricing isn't the most revealing price signal.

So I'd say just wait and see. $999 for the Envy 14 is the price we've quoted. The only part that should generate debate is the standard components include. The ambiguity and conflicting information we've gleaned from manuals makes us less than completely sure about the standard screen resolution and whether the $999 price point includes at least an i5-320M or an i3; I'm hoping that the latter is offered for a few bucks less.

 

What in the world are you talking about? This isn't a netbook, it's meant to be a premium laptop. For what it is, it's pretty damn cheap.

 

How so?

If you're like me and have over a decade of notebook usage and purchases under your belt, you will come to appreciate the stark difference between a $500 netbook *cough cough* I mean notebook and a $1,000+ premium notebook. Specs are important for CPU/GPU-intensive apps--no one is foolish to debate that. But when you've bought $500 notebooks in the past only to discover that numerous compromises were made in on build quality and weight, you realize that the old adage that mom/dad taught you rings too true: "You get what you pay for."

You can go ahead and scoop up a 14" notebook for $800-900 with equal or better specs. But you won't get a beautiful screen, relatively low thinness, or the fluidity of the touchpad included with the higher-end specs. If you're in a coffeeshop or working on a cramped table, you get tons of mileage out of having at least a halfway decent touchpad and not some glossy, fingerprint magnet of a touchpad like the UL50VT's. The Envy 14 is a package of all these goodies in one and makes one compromise that I've decided to forgive: A little extra weight. HP's spokesman in a youtube interview admitted many people weren't ready to give up the optical drive.

I would've appreciated less weight. But in my search for a worthy notebook, I couldn't find a worthy competitor that could beat out the Macbook Pro 13 or the Envy 14/15 for my requirements. The closest was the T410 which IMO turned me off with the extra thickness and compromises made here and there in build quality. Unfortunately for me (and fortunately for my sister), my law school's exam software is wayyy glitchy with Mac OSX and the screen size was a tad bit on the small side. I played with my friend's Envy 15 and was pleased to find it felt surprising light in my hands at just over 5lbs. I'm willing to "downgrade" an inch if it means I get a reasonably bright backlit keyboard and a super nice screen.

 

5650: Yes

i5-430M: Not sure, I hope so.

 

The most reliable source we have heard from (the Envy product line manager) said "this will start at 999 with a core i5", verbatim. The 5650 seems like a lock at this point (as much as a product a month away from launch can be a "lock