HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

My dv3t with Core 2 Duo P7350 and GeForce G105M came with a 90W adapter. I would be VERY, VERY surprised if the Envy 14 came with a 65W adapter.

 

I'm having difficulties choosing between this and the acer 3820tg. Decisions, decisions...

Anyone know the price difference between the two?

 

neither has an announced price at this stage, at least not in north america. i would guess a max difference of $200 for base models, with the acer being the cheaper option. $1000 vs $1200.

 

Let me make it easier for your... Screen quality on HP Envy 14! Acer is using just a plain old 13" screen which is just like the rest of average quality.

 

Screen quality and screen resolution! IMHO 1600x900 is perfect resolution for 13" or 14" laptop, anything less you lose a lot of screen real estate.

 

the envy is over a pound heavier than the acer... is the screen really that much better than the standard acer screen?

ahh, the backlit keyboard on the envy does it in for me... is it button-activated or sensor?

 

Personally, I am ok with any resolution as long as its easy on the eyes. I am, however, hoping that HP Envy 14 will have good quality screen as they claim, which is pretty much the main factor for me at this point. One of the reasons why I got rid of m11x, I just couldn't stand its bland screen.

 

It depends how much you value screen quality. A lot of people are content with the standard 1366x768 screens. By and large, the quality on these have plummeted to jsut a step above hot garbage.

I have the only other 1600x900 screen on a 14" notebook currently out right now in my Sony CW. A lot of people are pleased with it but for me the contrast is horrific.

For me, screen quality is huge. I really never understood how people are able to let this slide when this is the single thing that you use 100% of the time when on a computer. You are ALWAYS staring at it. Why skimp with low contrast, low resolution?
On the other hand, ~ 5 lb is the upper limit in terms of how much weight I want. The Envy hit's both these marks.


In the end, it's just how high of a priority you place on each feature.

Here's one other thing. Do you use dual windows? I have two windows side by side and 1600 width is the absolute minimum to use it reasonably imo. After using it 100% of the time in Win7...I will never, ever EVER go lower than 1600 width on a screen.

At this size and weight, the Envy isn't the best option, flat out it's the ONLY OPTION for me.

 

I don't get two things:
1. how people can stand these lower res screens. I feel like its people who never had a higher res screen or something. When I was buying a laptop four years ago I swear there were more options with a higher res screen then there are now. I can't stand when I have to scroll all over the place and can't view two windows at once.
2. Weight, are you really going to complain over an extra pound. How weak can you be? Go to the gym and do some shoulder shrugs if a 14inch laptop is so hard to carry.

 

I have experienced 1336x768 on a 15.6" and I can not stand it... Even on a 12.1". For that reason, I gave up the ASUS U33Jc and N82Jv. The Envy 14 is my last!

 

for those of you looking for deals, this link might help you come the 27th.
Assuming there is no BCB, that is...

HP ENVY 14 14.5-inch Core i5/i7 Laptop Coming Soon - LogicBUY

 

13.75 hours of battery life?

 

With Slice battery.. no WLAN, no volume, screen completely dim, backlit keyboard off, and just Windows running idle-y. My bet.

 

i do like the 1600x900 screen from the new vaio Z.

 

Might as well call it "dead" battery life

 

does anyone know what the envy14 is going to weigh? and is there going to be a beats edition?

 

I dunno, but I wish HP would release final "base price" and "ready to ship" model specs to stop all the speculation.

 

According to the model numbers on their support website (I posted a link to that earlier), no. Which sucks, cause no one wants flowery paterns.

 

ya i would rather have black than a flower pattern, i guess i'll have to wait

 

I had my heart set on the Envy 14 and came to this conclusion too. Plus, you get it 2 months earlier.

 

How does the slice battery work? Is it just an extra battery? Or does it piggyback onto the existing one, meaning you dont actually have to shut down/remove battery and replace with the slice?

 

It snaps on to the bottom, you don't have to remove anything.
YouTube - HP Envy 14

 

I think we need to turn this thread into "Things To do to Take Your Mind Off The Envy 14 Until We Actually Know Anything" because I am spending way too much time and doing way too many Google searches about this damn piece of metal...

 

It's kind of like buying a toyota corolla with a Ferrari parts in it... why not wait a bit longer and go for "Ferrari"?

 

Anyone planning on staying with the 430M? The 520 just doesnt seem worth it for even $100. Anyone wanna share their opinion on this?

 

5.25 lbs = 2,38 kg (without optional slice battery)

The Envy is a premium product series. Meaning that you would get more bang for the buck with almost all other similar equipped notebooks.

The fancy screen is the main reason to go for Envy14 even if its more expensive.

 

That's pretty porky for a 14" laptop. Its more than pound heavier than the Lenovo T410s and worse yet, only a few oz less than a 15" Macbook pro. What's so hard about making a lightweight laptop?

Also the concept of "premium" is not about "bang for the buck". Its about performance, extreme form factor and style. This here looks not like a "premium" but a middle of the road thing - and priced in that way. HP would need to get it under 4.5lbs while still matching the macbook pro battery life, in order to start talkin "premium". But clearly HP werent willing to spend money to do that - and they are not targeting the premium customers who are willing to pay for it either.

 

oh so i'm not the only one. except i keep coming here hoping that hp leaked an envy 14 model and one of our members somehow obtained it and did a thorough review of it with pics and vids.

 

u do know metal is heavy, right? for comparison, the mbp 13 is 4.5 pounds

 

I'd love to see a head to head with the new MBP i5. The Envy doesn't looks as slick and efficient, but I'll reserve my judgement until some reviews start to appear.

We can speculate all day, but there was mention of the size being a factor for more efficient heat management. And at 14.5'', the Envy is quite close to the MBP 15. Just give it a chance

 

So, in conclusion, it should be as light as a notebook made of plastic, keep the same performance, while having the battery life of a laptop with less powerful components.

Engineering doesnt work that way.

Oh, and good job comparing it to two notebooks that cost almost twice as much.

 

hey guys some more new on the Envy 14 model ..... no use to us lot unless ur in China but here are their announced models (use google translate)

HP Envy?????? | T??

 

That spread sheet says they all have fingerprint readers and Blu-ray, haha
maybe the translation isn't quite right...

 

yer exactly what i thought.... i wouldnt mind a finger print reader.... total lie oh well password protection will do

 

why in the world is there an i7-720 in the envy 14... ruins the whole concept the designers talked about in their videos regarding the envy 14

 

Eh, choice is good, I suppose.
But yeah, I doubt that would be a good choice...

You know, I bet this camera is high rez enough to be used for facial recognition. How awesome would it be to just sit down in front of it and it unlock for you?

 

lol that would be beyond awesome.

 

Not really. I had an Alienware M11x for a while, and I ended up disabling the facial recognition feature. It took longer for the software to recognize my face than for me to type the password.

 

yer defo... being a high res cam it should recognise a face quite quickly providing the software is good.

 

The specs say it ships with a 65 watt adapter.

 

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It's a good usability benchmark for the MBP. the battery power is quite amazing, 77.5 Whs, compared to the 59(?) of the Envy, 30% more juice.

So, for the MBP, that's 8 hours light load, 2 h 45 mins hours under medium load. With those numbers, that gives a power draw of 10 watts light load, and 27 watts under medium load (that's without the GT330).

Extrapolating for the Envy 14, should give 6 hours light browsing, 2 h 10 mins for videos.

Again, hopefully something that has been addressed on the Envy, it being slightly bigger and all.

 

so how expensive is this machine going to be?

 

Just get the extra slice battery for the Envy14 to double this values.

Even with the extra battery you would still save about $500 compared to an otherwise equally equipped MBP15.

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Starting at $999 for a base config with unknown specs.
The "german" quick-ship spec with i5-520, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 1600x900 display should cost about $1350 without extra warranty.

 

$999
Exactly what that gets you, we don't know yet. We are pretty sure that it will have a Core i5 and a Radeon 5650 in the base, though.

 

I agree with you, but it seems most people in this thread think "premium means "bang for your buck". I'm with you, I don't give a crap about the price, I just want premium features.

 

The pricing doesn't make sense to me with the two envy 14 models.... the higher model is from an i5-540 to i7-720, 500gb 7200rpm HDD to 640gb 5400rpm HDD, 2gb to 4gb RAM, and a 6-cell slice battery for 5000 TWD extra. That's like $160... something there doesn't feel right to me.

Anyone care to give an opinion? Personally I think they've got some of the specs mixed up

 

Someone did mention it also puts a fingerprint reader in the specs... And it's from china.. Could it be fake? Like one of those fake china phones?

 

In Belgium & Netherlands the Envy 14 has been announced for an insanely high price. HP announced 2 models: Envy 14 1020 for 1549 euro ( 1890 USD!) and an Envy 14 1030 for 1749 euro ( 2134 USD!!) Both models have the 1600x900 screen and 4 gigs RAM. The E14 1020 has a poor i5 450M (no 540M wth!) CPU with a 500 GB 7200 rpm HDD and the 1030 has an i7 720QM CPU with 620 GB 7200 rpm HDD.

I'm very very dissapointed in those prices. Yes, everyone knows that Europe is more expensive than the US for these things, but more than double the price?! Come on that's ridicilous! And yes, the Envy 14 is a beautiful, robust and powerful laptop which is supposed to battle with the Macbooks, but this doesn't mean HP has to handle the same prices!

Anyway, they did lost a costumer here!

Well, after reading my post: you still don't give a crap paying $2100 for a 14,5 inch laptop? No offense, but posts like these really bother me.

 

where is this info?

 

The macbooks are 300 euros more. So they'll still say it's good value!

*rip off*

I can see the Sony Vaio Z getting more and more interesting!