HP Envy 15? i7 meets 4830+15" screen!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/hp-envy-15-spotted-looking-pretty-real/


Spec:
15-inch display,
1.6 Ghz Intel Core i7 processor-720QM CPU (6MB cache),
320GB or 500 GB 7200 rpm HDD,
4GB RAM,
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830 graphics,
a Night Vision Webcam with IR LEDs
a 6-cell battery,
Windows 7 Home Premium, and more.

What do you guys think?

Edit:

It has:
3 USB 2.0 (3rd shared with eSATA port), HDMI port,
Wights merely a 2.35 kg, and the sizes are 38.0 cm x 24.4 cm x 2.65 cm mm

This thing is sick!!

 

yummmmmmmmmmmmm

 

15.6" Screen I hate you

 

What? you could always make it 15 with tape.

 

as already said before..

15.6'' screen - only good for watching dvds, bad for everything else.

mobility radeon 4830 a week before the desktop radeon 5000 gpus come out, some 3 months before the mobility ones come.

i7 - ok.. could be a faster one

 

Its an on going debate, not much you could to to change the screen ratio. Non wide screen is getting more and more rare.

4830 is 40 nm already, its pretty energy efficient. As for MR 5000? no one knows for certain about its ETA.

i7? you got moneys? if you do, get a faster one; cos the price increases disapportionally, just for the sake of extra cache, and marginally more mhz-not many is willing to pay for the top end, nor could they really tell much difference, unless they encode video all day long..

 

How do you know it's a 15.6" screen? All I see is 15-inch. Here's to hoping it's a 16:10, 15.4"!

 

You can tell by the picture, is clearly not a 15.4" display. And since the manufacturing trend is heading towards 15.6" being standard, its easy to tell.

 

give me a black one

 

since the voodoo notebooks are supposed to be top-of-the-line, i think money is not the point to be discussed. and there is quite a noticeable difference between top-hardware and less when using a top-of-the-line notebook as it is meant to be used, especially in cases where the cpu could bottleneck the gpu.

thanks windows 7 and the newer ati/nvidia gpgpus (as all 5000 & gt300 will be), the cpu is not involved in this type of tasks anymore, since the gpu does the job far better

i dont say that only the top cpu/gpu shall be offered, but also, especially on a voodoo-like or 8x40p/w-like notebook. for the lower ones its not that important, but the option to choose the top-hardware for these models would be quite good, unlike it is now (eg. 8530p still only with a 3650 available, while dv6/7 got 4650 to choose several months ago, while having far poorer cpus - completely dumb business strategy imo.).

as for madison/broadway (mobility radeon performance/high-end class), early q1 2010 is firm, just as september 22/23 for cypress (5870) is.

 

Well, maybe thats why Voodoo wasn't successful in the first place, resulting in HP taking over. Since them, I'd see them aimming at more mainstream users, as oppose to the very small niche market. Beside, of course money matters, its a down turn, even for the top end stuff, ppl wont want to spend more than they have to; and trying to offer top of the range stuff these days, without decent price isn't realistically...

Well as for the encoding acceleration, Ati and NV already have video accelerator for the existing GPUs.

 

It is very rare to find a 15,6" notebook with a quadcore CPU and middle-high end GPU.
If you consider how thin this HP is, it is even more impressive.

Am I wrong or this is the best spec-ed 15" notebook that thin?

 

There is just another laptop comparible atm.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=412388

Clevo W860CU supports Extreme mobile i7, as well as a 260m GTX, which makes it more powerful - however, its noticeable thicker, and much heavier.

 

I said it in the Envy 13 thread and I'll say it here too... Great (in this case, AMAZING) hardware, unoriginal design. Too MacBook like.

 

Wont see that much graphic power on macbook pro, for ... a few years... lol

 

I hope it has a backlit keyboard. HP should have learned that by now.

 

I was going to pull the trigger on a macbook pro 13 for the aluminum casing but depending how long I have to wait I may take this instead

 

Yeah its quite an achievement IMO for HP/Voodoo.

What is impressive to me is that its a quad core and is only ~1" thin? Thats pretty darn impressive.

 

I am assuming that will bring some heat but then again it looks like it has enough vents, only complaint is though it is an HP Voodoo it looks purely HP with no Voodoo label now, though it still looks slick!

 

Yeah it still looks pretty sweet. It is odd that it doesn't have a voodoo logo, but HP did swallow up the boutique completely.

It will generate some heat, so I think thats why it has such a low clocked core i7 to compensate for that.

 

Engadget has some more info. (with more pics!)


Envy info

Now Gizmodo is joining in on the action.

More Envy info

 

Yeah I figured that about the cpu but can't complain when it is a quad, maybe hp will make an optional voodoo logo and $600 custom paint?

 

That was a good read, as expected price tag is not ridiculously high but still high nonetheless, that was a really interesting way they designed the battery, cant decide if that is easier to keep spare batteries or more difficult, also the voodooey flowery design I have mixed feelings about

 

Really not a fan of that sunken keyboard look extending all the way to the edges. 16:9... nuff said. I do like the slice battery and the unibody chassis though.

The 13 is too expensive ($1,699 - more so than the MBP 13). The 15-inch Envy is way better value ($1,799). Although the 13-inch seems to have a better display.

However, like everyone else, I think they should've waited a few more months and launched them with Intel's 32nm Arrandale and ATI's DX11 40nm 5000-series (or NVIDIA G300, whichever). Guess they could offer them as options but not likely for the GPU.

 

The Arrandale CPUs are mainstream CPUs and far weaker than the ones in the HP. Also, the 5 series and 300 series won't be in any notebook that you can purchase for at least half a year. So, no point in waiting for these mainstream parts. HP released it at the right time - for Windows 7's release. The GPU can easily be added in at a future time just like Dell's sXPS 16 3670 to 4670.

 

HP is going to beat CLEVO ?

now with all these 15 inch i7's we are considering the M15x will have one.....

 

Okay, is there something wrong with this picture? How did HP manage to stuff all the stuff in, while keeping under 1 inch??!?

Its out on the 15th of October- cant wait until the review...

 

It's called great engineering. Seriously, you'd be surprised how much additional space we can work with once we do away with an optical drive.

 

SLI/Xfire !!!!! FTW

GTS 260m in SLI or 4860's in Xfire

 

Moo, not that is slow, but dont you only have 1 260m?

 

whoa nelly, just read the new preview.

This is an impressive lookin notebook. Definitely gives Apple a run for their money. The only drawback that I see is that the notebooks don't have a CD drive?

I can see how they were able to make it so thin now.

 

Yep. We first knew about the mobility 4830 and 4860 in March.

So you might see lots of info and charts about the 5000 series, but don't expect mobile versions for many months. Enjoy the current tech

 

Two things that have me worried:

1) screen
this picture: http://gizmodo.com/5359427/hp-envy-hands+on-gallery/gallery?selectedImage=10
Looks like the screen might be really blue/purple, which I noticed is a problem on the DV3t and DV4t

this picture: http://www.engadget.com/photos/envy-13-and-15-hands-on-1/2283508/
I really hope that taskbar isn't gray due to backlight bleed


2) fan
the DV3t and DV4t I had were super loud... I hope these are quiet!

 

I understand that to meet that 1 inch size of the Envy 15 they had to get rid of the optical drive...but I really disagree with that decision. I understand, though, that they will offer it as a USB connectable blu ray drive addon.

Also, anyone heard anything on the heat this thing would produce? Looks like it has quite a few vents for dissipation.

Also, anyone else see an HDMI port on the Envy 15?

 

According to this picture: http://www.engadget.com/photos/hp-envy-15-press-shots/2283421/

Looks like it's got atleast a USB/eSATA combo port, 2 regular USB, 1 HDMI, and the ethernet port.

 

Sweet! I didnt see that picture when I was viewing the engadget article. Thanks!

 

The optical drive is near obsolete as a data medium, and is a clunky peripheral to include on a laptop as it is a waste of precious space and weight when better, more useful components could be added in its place, which is what you will see from now on. None of the laptops I am using now has an optical drive in it (each replaced with a more useful peripheral, e.g. 2nd hard drive, 2nd battery) and I am not missing a moment of it.

 

those are my exact feelings

!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Get your ENVY sig tags:



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Well said.

 

Anyone getting one?

 

is there any benchmark of 4830?

 

I'm thinking about the Envy 15. Depends on the options I can get with it and what the other computer manufacturers do with the i7 processor. if they just update their current lines of computers, HP will get my business. If they introduce new lines of computers, stylish, slim but powerful then I will wait so i can compare them with the Envy 15.

 

I really wanted a 13 inch notebook but the the envy 15 just seems like a better deal, hopefully as it gets closer they will give me some justification for such a high tagged envy 13

 

It depends whether they use DDR3 or GDDR3 memory in it, but still a bit less than a GTX260m for sure. Don't know which benchmarks are worth thinking about as 3dmark06 is pretty CPU intensive and haven't heard how the new clarksfield processors compare to the previous mobile quads in benches.

Was hoping to hold off getting as new laptop till 5800s come out and maybe 32nm i7s come out, but the envy15, w860cu and potential new m15x are all tempting me....

 

4830 & 4860 are also the latest additions to the 4000 series - it all began with 4770 (desktop), built on 40nm, then followed by 4750 and mobility 4830/4860 - this all happened months after eg. mobility 4650, 4670 & 4870 (not to mention the desktop gpus) have already been available inside notebooks.

and as said before, the mobility 5000 gpus are to be released in early q1 2010, this is as certain now, as the official release and launch have been some weeks ago for the whole evergreen generation on sept. 10 and 22, respectively. so like youll be able to buy a 5870 & 5850 end sept., a 5870 x2 end october, there will be notebooks available equipped with mobility 5000 gpus in jan.-feb. 2010. but not by hp obviously.. my only hope is the 8540p/w.

 

Considering all workstation level notebooks still use HD 3xxx series (with the exception of the M6400's HD 4860 based card), I'm pretty sure the 8540p/w will only have a HD 4xxx based workstation card.

 

I dunno, I actually still use my cd drive quite a bit. I guess that's because I do a lot of video work and they need to be burned to dvd's.

I wouldn't say near obsolete as most laptops still have optical drives, and I think the optical disc will die a much harder death than that even of the floppy disk.

Optical discs are not only tied by the computer, but also in the entertainment biz as well.

 

I really don't mind the lack of an internal optical drive on these new envy's, since I so rarely use the drive in my good ol' nw8440. So that's really no deal-breaker there.

What IS a deal-breaker, however, are the 16:9 ratio screens they're using. Seriously, this whole obsession with HD-ratio screens has got to stop! I wouldn't mind if they offered a resolution of, say 2133x1200 (I like having at least 1200px of vertical resolution, and you need 2133px of horizontal resolution to maintain a 16:9 ratio), but the highest they offer is 1920x1080, because that's "full-quality HD"! I personally don't give a flying f about having the same resolution of an HDTV; I rarely watch TV or movies. I use my pc for schoolwork and gaming, and a 16:9 ratio just isn't ideal for those things. Why can't mfgrs realize that laptops aren't primarily used for HDTV and blue-ray??! *facepalm*

Otherwise, I'd be all over the Envy 15, but as it is, no thanks.

 

ehhh, ok. I gotta ask, what in the hell schoolwork are you doing that can't fit on 1080 vertical pixels? It seems you're the one with the obsession lol. And scream about it all you want, 16:9 is happening whether you like it or not, and the biggest or maybe only reason is cost. While I'm not a fan of 16:9, I don't consider it a dealbreaker; with 1920*1080 you still get a high resolution screen and it's still perfectly usable. Now you may have your own opinion on the matter, but frankly, it seems to me, you and others are blowing this completely out of proportion (in my opinion).