HP Envy 15? i7 meets 4830+15" screen!

I concur w/ jaakobi.

 

I don't mind a 1920x1080 resolution on a 15". But using a 1600x900 is a total deal break for me.

Also, this infinity display better be improved, such as no dust getting in between the screen and glass. Annoying as heck on my dv5t.

 

I'm also against the use of 16:9 screens. Its just too short height wise to do any real work. 16:9 screens to me feels like the screen is squatting.

But 16:9 is going to take over merely because it saves LCD manufacturers money. So that's how its going to be.

I'm glad I got my 1920x1200 display when I did.

 

I don't mind a 1600x900 in a 15".

It gives me the same height as my current 15", and more width. That's fine, its plenty sharp in terms of DPI, gives me decent room, and things arent too small.

I hate something like 1366x768, but 1600x900, yep, that's fine with me.

 

Wow, very nice looking laptop! Nice to see the major manufacturers starting to follow the Apple design philosophy (even if this does look like a blatant Mac rip-off )

 

Mac wishes they could produce somethign that powerful

 

I am sure mac could, but regardless of power they still sell like hotcakes

 

"because they don't have thousands of viruses"

lol ......

 

mac killer for sure.

 

Girl: I want a computer that has NO problems or viruses and is super easy to use!

Awesome Super PC guy: Sorry little girl all PC's have viruses and lots of problems too bad!

I love apple commercials! haha

 

Uhh guys... OT. Let's get back to the HP Envy 15...

 

You're clearly not CS major/Computer programmer, are you? I'm a CS major, and believe me, when I'm having to deal with a program that consists of several hundred lines of code, I need all the vertical resolution I can get. On a desktop I can just rotate the monitor, but that's not possible on a notebook, so the more vertical resolution I can get, the better. And I have yet to see a 16:9 display with that kind of vertical resolution. Like I said, I would be perfectly okay with a 2133x1200 display (which, AFAIK, doesn't exist yet)

BTW, my desktop monitor is 1680x1050, whose vertical resolution is only 30px less than HDUXGA. I definitely notice the difference in the amount of scrolling I have to do on program code between that monitor and the 1920x1200 internal screen on my notebook (If I neglect to rotate my monitor)

My point? Don't suggest to me (let alone flame me) that I'm blowing this out of proportion when the work I do really does get affected by the vertical resolution.

 

I don't mean to flame you, sorry if that's the impression I gave out. I'm only now dabbling in coding, and I only have a 1680*1050 screen. I seem to make do just fine with only 1050 vertical pixels, and so do a majority of the computer science majors at my school. I don't know, it just seems pedantic and hyperbolic how some people are acting about 16:9. If you don't like it, then that's ok. But most people won't know the difference, so it's easy to see why manufacturers are gravitating towards them (lower cost). I wouldn't exactly call that an obsession, just economics.

 

@Teraforce,
To answer you're question regarding manufacturers: Because they are appealing to the broad market, and not to you personally.

Here's some advice: hook up your laptop to an external monitor that you can rotate, get a tablet that you can rotate w/ an external keyboard/mouse, or wait until manufacturers build a lappie with your minimum requirement resolution.

You may want to consider this if you're coding in some unix variant: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/View_text_file_in_two_columns
I'm sure there are similar editors for windows.

Hey, now you've got twice the vertical res. Stop complaining.

Sheesh...

}:^/~

 

I love the idea of the 'slice' battery. Here's hoping that it puts the Envy 15 at minimum 5hrs of life. Another benefit is possibly a heat shield/spill pad when having the laptop on your lap.

Does anyone know how thick the slice is?

I also love the second drive. I'm thinking of putting a 32G SSD as my primary for lighting fast boots/loads and reduced power consumption, and a large HDD for media storage.

The Envy 15 is epic. Considering the power of the internals, this lappie is quite the bargain. From what I can tell, in this form-factor, it has no equal. Let's hope it's not too loud/hot/short-lived.

I'm looking forward to a review!

}:^)~

 

This 15-inch notebook also foregoes a DVD drive, but HP includes an external optical drive. Expect only about 3 hours of battery life with the standard battery, but up to 7 hours with the optional slice.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/hands-on-with-hps-drool-worthy-envy-13-and-envy-15

 

Take a look to HP ENVY 15 Beats limited edition

Amazing!

 

Is that black aluminum on the hand rest?...DAMN SEXY. Now, that plastic lacquer on the lid? UGLY and fingerprint magnet...Give me a black aluminum Envy 15 and I will buy it without HESITATION...

Translated page by google.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnotebookitalia.it%2Fhp-envy-15-beats-limited-edition-6512.html&sl=it&tl=en&history_state0=

 

I hope it's not plastic
I don't have yet any information about pricing but imho it will not be cheap

 

Any idea what the battery life on Envy 15 might be? A quad core + mid/high end GPU+ dual HDD doesn't normally do well.

 

not to stray again but reminds me of the U2 Ipod years ago, it looks nice in black however not a huge "beats" fan but the black gives it a little more voodoo envy feel

 

See my previous post (before yours). 3 hours w/ 6 cell, 7 hours w/ 6 cell and slice.

 

agreed gimme a 15 in black and I'm almost certain to get one

 

I don't know if anyone's already answered this yet, but is there a backlit keyboard on the envy 13 and 15? They never outright advertised it so I wasn't sure if it was even an option.

 

I'd expect there to be, but as far as I can see there hasnt been any conformation.

 

I assume the 15 will have an edge-to-edge but the sample computer doesn't.

 

I think that's a feature only for the envy 13 with it's high brightness hp radiance display. The envy 15 doesn't have it and from what I can tell from all the pictures posted so far it has a actual display bezel.

 

I hope so, but I think it doesn't.

 

The pics of the 15 on HP's site looks just like the 13 edge-to-edge though. How could they release it without edge-to-edge on the 15? That would be so lame. I really hope they don't do that!

 

http://translate.google.com/transla...-Test.20514.0.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

If you look at the pics on this website they show a comparison shot for the envy 13 and envy 15 screens and you can see pretty clearly that only the envy 13 has the edge to edge.

 

Yes, but those are demo systems. Also, note that the 15 had a really small resolution. They say on the HP website it will be 1080p (the demo wasn't) and the HP site shows pictures of it with the edge-to-edge.

 

I have become a big fan of backlit keys and if dell and apple put them on their luxury notebooks at a lower price point there is no reason HP shouldn't,

regarding the edge to edge on the 13, maybe that is why they are charging so high on the 13 with only a slight price difference to the 15, that would suck though

 

If you read the article, it states that the final version of the HP Envy 15 will come with an edge-to-edge display. You have to remember that both Envies are just demos, not the final versions. HP has also stated that the Envy 15 will come with either a 1600x900 or a 1920x1080 screen in the final version; the demo only had a 1366x768 screen. So, yeah ... these are just demos.

Anyway, the HP Envy 15 is currently on the top of my shortlist of potential future laptops!

 

yea only wish it had 4860 instead then i would buy it in heartbeat

 

Same here, dude! However, the ATI Radeon HD 4830 should be equivalent to a Nvidia GeForce 9800 GS or a Nvidia GeForce GTS 160M. And neither is a sloth in the graphics department. It's just great to see "Class 1" mobile GPUs in non-"gaming" laptops. And did I mention it's only an inch thick and weighs about five pounds?

 

Damn! Must ... have ...

 

Ah I seem to have missed that. I thought that the lack of the hp radiance display meant no edge to edge. My mistake.

Hopefully the 1080p display doesn't come in at too much of a premium.

 

Kinda surprising how fast the 4860 card could get, with higher core freq, and GDDR 5 memory, its on the samilar level as 260m GTX- despite the fact the other spec are almost the same... .

 

I doubt it would be as fast as those cards especially at high resolution since despite the high shader count, it's still limited by its 128-bit bus width and GDDR3 memory.

128-bit GDDR5 ~= 256-bit GDDR3. That's why it performs so well.

 

It seems like it was a heat issue since the 4830 is a lower-clocked 4860 if both had GDDR3. It's the lack of a GDDR5 option we don't get with the 4830 that I'm disappointed in.

 

Dont even consider it, its going to be a piece of junk guaranteed. Anything that has Rahul's name on it should be just thrown out. The guy is a criminal,

Why make a product if his company will not support it.

Look elsewhere, buying the voodoo name doesnt mean power and performance, it means a flashy expensive paperweight

K-TRON

 

Wow... thats one opinionated guy...

 

This is true. However, there are a few 128-bit GPUs that overall outperform a 256-bit one. Some examples that come to mind is the ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4650 (128-bit) Vs. the ATI Radeon Mobility HD 3850 (256-bit), or the HD 4670 (128-bit) Vs. the HD 3870 (256-bit). Combine that with ATI, at least on the mobile side, being a few (small) steps ahead of Nvidia on many of their GPUs; I wouldn't really be surprised. I really just wish we had some real-world performance charts of the HD 4830. I have a hunch that it will outperform a destop ATI Radeon HD 4670 ... but I don't know by how much.

 

First off, this isn't a Voodoo, it's a HP. The only thing that links it to Voodoo is the name. Secondly, HP absorbed Voodoo ... I highly doubt if we'll ever see anything new from Voodoo again.

 

That is because I had to deal with them. Trust me, you dont want to deal with their business or lack thereof.

I hope there business got curtailed and is controlled by HP. HP at least backs there products up unlike voodoo

In the past, when I had mine, (before the hp acquisition), customers had to pay for shipping back and forth of the system and the $100+ shop fees per hour. Yeah that is under warranty service. It isnt cheap. There warranty never covered anything.

I am stating my opinion based on what I went through.
They short you for what you get. After they get there money they didnt care about your situation.


If the situation has changed, then ignore what I have said, but Voodoo was a terrible company pre HP acquisition.

I dont come here and troll, I come here to offer advice. I am stating the honest truth for what I had to go through. I tell people not to buy from them, so they dont have to go through what I had.

K-TRON

 

The HD 4670 doesn't even beat the lowest of the high end nVidia cards, the 9700M GTS. The 9800M GS is quite a few steps up from that.

 

I was referring to the desktop HD 4670, not the mobile HD 4670. The desktop HD 4670 is more or less comparable to the desktop Nvidia 9600 GT, which, incidentally, is basically what a Nvida GeForce 9800M GS is (a slower clocked desktop 9600 GT ... I might add).

 

I'm aware you were referring to the desktop 9600 GT and HD 4670. But my statement was referring to the current mobility HD 4670. I guess we'll have to wait for hard benchmarks though, so not much point in speculating.

 

My bad, dude. And, yeah, I can't wait to see the benchmarks for this puppy.

 

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15568/1/

1-2 months later launch only.. and you all could speculate about the performance of real new hardware, not the previous generation like now regarding the performance of a 4830