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    *HP Envy 15 Owners Lounge! PART 1*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Serg, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. GizmoSlip

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    That 8380 was ran at 1280x768 because the resolution of the unit they had was at 1366x768. The test that Johnnobts ran was at 1280x1024. You might be able to see it break 9000 on standard clocks if you ran it at that resolution. [EDIT: I am assuming that Johnnobts has a 1080p screen. Maybe not? Can you verify that?]

    Is there any way you can run it at 1280x768? I believe you would have to own it to change those settings.

    That's great. I once saw the Envy 15 in Best Buy and it got very warm just sitting there idling with the Best Buy software on it (maybe the software caused the graphics card to clock up or something)


    What were you running when you ran it for those 13 minutes. Was it just idling? Youtube video? 3Dmark06?

    You could still get 2.75-3 with bluetooth off. Maybe 3-3.5 with wifi off too.

    I'm interested in knowing what the maximum battery life while idling with Microsoft Word open (no wifi, no BT, and lowest screen brightness). I wonder if you could squeeze out 3.5 hours. Maybe? Seems possible.
     
  2. JJB

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    Just followed the 'expert review' link in signature, wanted to pass on that the i7-620m has been removed from the Envy 15 options. Price is back down to $1299 with an i5 4xx as base CPU
     
  3. spinkick

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    I'm thinking maybe I should have just stuck with the i7 if the battery is the same. Id love to see if the multiplier is locked on the i5 on battery, though.
     
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    Johnnobts, for the love of God, check the motherboard chipset! :)
     
  7. GizmoSlip

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    Thanks for the info. I updated the Envy 15 article with the new info, as well as the preliminary 3dmark06 score. You can find the article through the link in my sig. It somewhat sums up the info in this thread on the 2nd gen Envy 15.
     
  8. AnXioZ

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    I believe he has the low res screen. A few pages back, sorry I can't look it up I'm on my iPhone.
     
  9. dalingrin

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    I was under the impression it was run at a 1280x768.
     
  10. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Darn, I think I'm actually going to have to get a Macbook =/ For goodness sake HP, you really couldn't put IGP support in the laptop? Seriously? That my friends is probably one of the biggest blunders I have ever seen by a PC company. THE GRAPHICS CARD IS ON THE PROCESSOR IN THE LAPTOP!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT ENABLE IT!!!! So they stick it in there just to say its an i5. FAIL.

    HP had a great laptop in the making and decided hey who needs USB 3.0 with i5 processors? Did someone say long battery life? That's not important. No one does CPU intensive stuff unless their plugged in right? Sigh, ok I think my rant is over.

    I'm not saying it's a bad laptop, but it could have been much better and definitely something alot more mobile.

    January 27th here I come....
     
  11. GizmoSlip

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    I just read back many posts ago. It looks like he chose to get a 1366x768 model, though he never mentioned the resolution of his laptop close. I just assumed that someone would have to be crazy not to order the 1080p screen option... Apparently there ARE crazy people out there! jk... :D

    I'm still okay with the 3DMark06 score. It'll be enough to put out COD:MW2 at a respectable resolution and still keep things moving smoothly. I'm guessing it'd be able to do 1366x768 at 2x AA with all graphics features enabled, if not a little higher without AA on. I had a G60VX I did a review on that scored 9000 in 3Dmark06 and it ran MW2 at those settings perfectly. I probably could have upped it to 1366x768 4x AA and it would have been fine. The 5830 should perform just a hair under that.

    At 15.6" it'd be really hard to tell a difference between 1366x768 and 1080p as long as you have AA on at both resolutions.
     
  12. drizek

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    Im almost certainly getting a macbook as well now. I figure I will be able to buy a Blu Ray drive replacement for it at some point. I just hope Apple comes to their senses and includes USB 3.

    Fail HP, fail. The i7 version was good but flawed in terms of heat and battery life. Intel and AMD handed you the solution on a silver platter, and you took a giant crap on it. Not only did they not enable the powersaving features of hte i5, they also didn't give it USB 3. Not to mention the whole deal with not shipping the things for a month after we ordered. Then there is the issue of using DDR3 on the video card just to save a couple of bucks. GDDR3 would have been faster and more efficient, and HP once again dropped the ball.

    I'm not mad at you HP, I'm just dissapointed.

    At least with the delayed ship date, we can order the MBP and cancel the Envy simultaneously, instead of having to ship it back to HP and waitihng a month to get our money back.

    I also want to take a look at the Asus 13" i5/i7UL laptops coming out hopefully soon.
     
  13. spinkick

    spinkick Notebook Geek

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    Screw a MBP.. it only runs osx native, which I hate. Windows 7 is where its at. :( I wish they would have good bootcamp drivers.
     
  14. drizek

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    They released updated bootcamp drivers for Windows 7 yesterday. YOu don't get switchable graphcis in windows, but that won't matter anyway on the 13"
     
  15. spinkick

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    I wonder how the backlight drivers are and all that. I just think they will never release very good drivers; why should they. It would just detract from their OS. Why doesnt HP ask any one of us what we really want in the envy, and go from there? *Sigh*
     
  16. GizmoSlip

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    I found an article that some of you might be interested in: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=850

    It compares the performance of the i5 vs. P8700 vs. i7 Mobile vs. i5 Desktop.

    Surprisingly, the i5 actually outperforms the i7 in several quad threaded tests (due to a higher clock?), though the i7 did win at least 60-70% of them. The i5 destroys the P8700 in terms of performance in almost all the tests.
     
  17. spinkick

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    And why cant the N1 for Verizon be out now!
     
  18. process

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    strange I received the coupon code email at 941pm and yet it is time stamped 454pm i guess the hp servers are bogged down. I also didn't receive the email about it being delayed. Looks like everyone is upset...I will have to play with it and the light weight will have to impress me else I'm going with the elitebook 8540w or maybe mbp.
     
  19. drizek

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    I am installing WIndows 7 on my friends MBP right now, so I'll let you know how it goes.
     
  20. drizek

    drizek Notebook Evangelist

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    The quad i7 really isn't a good laptop CPu, at least not if mobility is a concern. OF course, the huge switchable graphics advantage doesn't apply in the Envy. The worst part is that it seems that literally every other i5 laptop has switchable graphics, including HPs own Dv4!

    They just proved that they don't have what it takes to hang with Apple in the luxury PC market.
     
  21. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    I've been running Windows 7 on my MBP for a long time now. No problems =P

    The new drivers seem to have fixed mos of the problems I complained about a few pages back. However, you still can't change videocards =(
     
  22. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    Guess I'll get some time to play with the Envy and see if it's up to par with what Apple's new offerings. =P
     
  23. process

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    this is some bull my coupon code isnt valid
     
  24. Kamzu

    Kamzu Notebook Evangelist

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    Guess you'll hafta call em up and complain =.=;;

    Make them compensate you for the agggravation!
     
  25. spinkick

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    Please do, Thanks!
     
  26. process

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    I will...I'm pretty much ready to cancel the order but thats only because I had such amazingly high hopes for this laptop. Then again I would be pissed on any laptop I bought that got delayed for almost 20 days, considering I don't usually buy laptops. I am pretty much set on getting an 8540 now...with its number pad and its bluray and its 5 usb ports and its everything else....
     
  27. drizek

    drizek Notebook Evangelist

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    SO i just realized htat the MBP have optical out out of the HP. Does the HP with "beats" audio have that? PRetty lame if it doesn't TBH, althoug hte HDMI kind of makes up for that.
     
  28. Kamzu

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    All this crap talking about the i5 version of Envy aside, the i7 is still as awesome as advertied =P
     
  29. process

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    well of course thats just a mistake :D give it a week, HP will ruin it.
     
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    so if we buy something with our coupon code and its free do we have to use a credit card to charge $0 to it or will hp be less stupid and just ship it?
     
  31. johnnobts

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    i really do like my beats envy. yes, it is the low res screen. works fine for me. will definitley play with it for a week or so before final judgment.
     
  32. Kamzu

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    So am I mistaken or did one of the trolls from earlier mention that the 5830 uses DDR3 instead of GDDR3. Any truth to this?
     
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    ati website says it can come with either.....is it a big difference?
     
  34. Kamzu

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    Not really sure. But that G in front of DDR3 is sexy.
     
  35. Sorrum

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    It uses GDDR3 in the HP Envy 15.
     
  36. drizek

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    Thats at least one point for HP.

    The two hour battery life on the i5 is just unacceptable though.
     
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    just read a review on the upcoming 8440w, it can apparently get 3-4 hours of battery life while gaming and doing CAD with full brightness using the i7-920XM and is smaller than the envy 15 and has a bluray drive. I think I found my new laptop :D
     
  38. drizek

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    But it weighs more. Thats why I wanted the Envy in the first place. 1080p display, but weighs just 5 pounds.
     
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    good point, regardless of what I go with I will play with the envy for close to 21 days and see if it can win my heart...im just starting to get buyers remorse and i dont even own the thing yet...
     
  40. HenryS

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    Damn... the i5 envy 15 don't have usb3.0. That's very disappointing.
     
  41. seb87

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    question , the monitor is good for photo work ??

    there is some info about adobe rgb coverage ??

    is better the brightview or the antiglare led ?
     
  42. chang-er

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    Dell Specs show this:

    Intel® PM55 with Intel® CoreTM i7 processors
    Intel® HM55 with Intel® CoreTM i5 processors

    so I imagine its probably similar for the Envy i5.
     
  43. threeply

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    The review unit was using a i7-620m which is a Westmere chip like the i5 series but with more cache. The unit is also heavier with a 9-cell battery. Also the unit will not display FullHD only 1600x900. The gfx card only has 512MB and is probably not comparable to the 5830 in terms of gaming prowess nor DirectX 11 capability. USB 3.0 was not mentioned either for the 8440w.

    The real comparison is more the 8540w which has a more powerful gfx card. In either case business laptops are priced to gouge.

    There wasn't any mention of switchable graphics either. Its like comparing apples and oranges.
     
  44. Raidenfx

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    Good point. I have rechecked a few pages back and so far I haven't seen any screen shots posted by johnnobts from his new envy 15 i5 series.

    It is still hard to think that HP has decided to disable IGU on the new i5 series. I guess i will just have to wait a few days and see it for myself.
     
  45. daraj

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    Screen capture is not very hard to do. Just post some screens dude :confused:
     
  46. digitalsuperman

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    does the envy refresh has the horizontal lines too?
     
  47. larsv

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    My glossy 1080p ultra brightview panel measured about 250 nits at full brightness. Gamut is a close match to sRGB, which means about 60% of AdobeRGB gamut. Measured with i1 Pro.

    The glossy 1080p panel is made by LG, possibly LP156WF1.

    Being a TN panel like all laptop panels today, it still has some problems with vertical viewing angles. For color-critical work you have to use a desktop display, preferably an IPS panel.
     
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    Contribution here is strictly voluntary, no reason to be rude. Yes, you have to say please.
     
  49. digitalsuperman

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    whenever i download something then i leave my envy for a few minutes to complete the download. my envy just shuts down but the power button led is on. and everything is unresponsive... the monitor is down and all buttons are unresponsive..

    is there some kind of settings that i should set for this?

    i have already set the power saving settings to "never"..

    i always use the envy plugged in so i dont worry about the batteries.

    please advice guys.
     
  50. seb87

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    ok , is not for me... :D

    i work now with a 400nit m6400 rgbled display :D
     
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