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    *HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by J-Bytes, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. kindheart

    kindheart Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry Cyber, let me respectfully disagree with you--see the various 8800 flavors at:

    http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_8800.html

    The GT is a separate entity/model, and the above page doesn't list our mobile M GTS flavor, which only has 64 stream processors: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8800m.html

     
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    Yes, it sounds like a campfire. You can search the thread if you wanna read about it.
     
  3. JohnnyFlash

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    I think he's referring to how the 8800GTX is a g80 chip and the 8800GT is a g92, as is the 8800m. There's design differences between g80 and g92 above how many sp's are enabled.
     
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    kindheart Notebook Evangelist

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    The G92 is essentially a G80 in 65nm instead of 90 nm (= runs cooler, uses less power + it also features PureVideo 2).
     
  5. 2.0

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    OCZ Vertex looks like a winner. All the things that bugged me about SSD's are finally ironed out with this series. All except price.

    No matter, I'll be looking at getting a 60GB Vertex for my tablet in two months or so.

    One again, good looking out.
     
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    lancorp Notebook Virtuoso

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    I got mine for about $150 after rebate and discounts at mwave.com. I'll keep an eye out for a similarly good deal and PM you when it comes around again.

    I've very happy with this series!
     
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    Thank you so much for the info.

    I powered the external using AC adaptor and USB to DC plug that comes with the external drive.

    By the way, when did you get your HDX9494NR? I've got mine in Oct 2008.

     
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    Funny you should be using a Rocketfish. While on a short getaway last week, I ordered a few of those from some Amazon.com marketplace seller (really cheap) and they showed up today.

    They look really nice. Curious, though, if those combo USB/eSATA ports that are showing up on notebooks (1 port that is both USB connector and eSATA connector in one), does the USB portion supply power? If so, wouldn't it be neat to have a "combo cable" that would provide power and eSATA signal over one cable, instead of the octopus of cables needed to both power and connect an external eSATA drive? Seems like it should be possible...
     
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    It's not just a die shrink, design adjustments were made as well. The g92 refresh has less ROPS in the backend for starters.
     
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    I think I'm gonna grab a 120GB this when I get paid this month.
     
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    jeezzz...... sorry I didint find your post! Its not like there is almost 600 pages on this thread... or a dozen pages turning up in the search field.... I guess I should know better since I have been a member of this forum for over 2 weeks!

    Anyhow.. I just turned off the opengl feature and it works fine. problem solved.. I leave the 3D for real 3D applications such as Maya and 3DSMAX so maybe im not losing out on much. I do like the improvements on CS4 though.

    THanks for the flames it was as useful as the opengl feature with CS4 and a ATI M R 2600XT video cared!


     
  12. kindheart

    kindheart Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, 16 (vs 20 and 24 for other G80-based models), as well as more transistors. But how does this serve the original argument? the 8800GT is still a distinct entity/different model in the 8800 line. The G92 also powers the NVIDIA 9600GSO (old 96 SP version), so what? Are we going to say that the 8800GT and the 9600GSO are equal?
     
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    Good deal! Thanks!

    I think it's only a matter of time before a cable like that is made and a matching combo connector on an enclosure. Between now and then, perhaps a "Y" cable with the combo USB/eSATA connector on one end and separate eSATA and mini USB on the other end with turn up.

    It'll be a while until the powered eSATA spec shows up in notebooks.

    Those Rocketfish enclosures not only work well but seem well constructed. I like that they come with an optional black cover. Matches the HDX's color scheme quite nicely. I bought it off eBay and paid $12 delivered. Bought a 2nd for the other HDX.
     
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    The real question is, what's so different about the HD2600 XT from the other ATI cards that Open GL doesn't work with Abode's implementation of it such that it seems no one yet has been able to get CS4's Open GL feature set to work with it?

    True, in no way is the 8800M GTS specifically listed as tested by Abode. You're granted that. But it works with CS4 because of two reasons; it's derivative of the desktop versions listed and because Nvidia has superior driver support. But, if someone were to strictly go by what's listed as tested to work with CS4, they would have to forego either upgrading/purchasing CS4 or buying a notebook with a Nvidia GPU other than an 8600M.
     
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    Need more info like what browser and version? What websites? If Firefox, did you d/l an adblock program?
     
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    Thought about that for the Dragon too. Think I might wait out a 250GB considering how I'd like to use it. :)
     
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    Hi I'm trying to bring up websites..and for some reason it doesn't render pictures much anymore...I checked the GPU in Device manager and it says its running fine.. It looks like when you try to have a page render and it fails to connect to the internet half way through...Did a virus scan..Doing a Spyware scan.. Anyone have an idea on what's up?
     
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    Firefox, the latest one 3.0.8..yea I think it only does it in Firefox all of a sudden.. Ive had the ad block addon for a while now though.. Youtube, and social networking sites look wacked out..no images, videos etc...seems to only be like this in Firefox. I disabled Adblock and Bosskey but its still doing it..hmm...
     
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    I agree drivers are of prime importance. OpenGL is implemented in the drivers, not by Microsoft in Windows. A well-known example is the Intel GMA950. If you use the drivers offered by Microsoft in Windows 7 for the GMA950 (Microsoft - WDDM1.0), you can't run OpenGL apps like Second Life(r). If however you download and install the latest WDDM1.0 drivers from Intel ( http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?ProductID=2102&DwnldID=16312&lang=eng which by the way are older than Microsoft's version), OpenGL apps like Second Life(r) run fine under Win7.
     
  20. lancorp

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    Yeah, that's what I'm talking about...combo eSATA to eSATA and mini USB. Let's get together and make 'em...we'll make a fortune and can retire in the life of luxury!


    Amazon.com seller, $1.99 each plus $2.50 shipping. Brand new, in box. :D
     
  21. Dominick_7

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    Nevermind I fixed it. Have no idea how it happened but the load images automatically box in Firefox settings became unchecked on its own somehow. Thanks.
     
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    Haha, yeah.


    I don't know how you do it. It's an incredible gift you've got there.
     
  23. CyberVisions

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    Well, yeah, KH, you know everything there is to know, don't you?

    IF you knew anything about testing (or anything else for that matter) you'd understand how and why things are listed, or the subtle differences in series components. By your statement, my GTS shouldn't be working in OpenGL at all since it's not specifically on the list, now should it? Yet the snips I showed were from my 64 bit version of PS CS4.

    The biggest difference between people like me and people you is that Professionals like myself have actually done tests like that, both as Engineer and as the QA witness. It doesn't make a da.mn bit of difference if the GT is a separate card or not - what's implied is the series. If the 8800GTS had failed or had problems, it would've been noted - it wasn't. That's how you interpret it - or should I say, how I as a former test engineer would interpret it. How you interpret it frankly makes no difference to me or the spinning of the universe - it's mind over matter. I don't mind, because you don't matter. Nothing you provide here is ever of your own experience; your posts are either conjecture based on other information, posted just to have a differing opinion, or in most cases outright bull$hit, not to mention at times just plain irresponsible.

    Your "miraculous F.40 update" statement was just that - irresponsible. It doesn't make one bit of difference if you, by some glorious fate of God, were able to defy the odds and update an HDX without bricking it like countless others. The fact is that the odds are against Toomy having a successful update with it, given the facts that we already know - thousands of dollars of hardware and data frozen because of some programming screwup.

    But that's the difference between Professionals like me and others here, and total bull$hit artists like you. Unlike you, I and others care if someone loses their hardware or data from a suggestion or solution we give - since I and others do this for a living, when WE screw up, we're liable for it. But here, a$$holes like you who can't get it up try to compensate by appearing to be knowledgeable to those who don't know any better. People like you don't care whether or not your posts injure others by what you say if they're oblivious to your actual knowledge level, which from what we've seen is about what I'd expect a 10 year old to be able to come up with these days. It's easy to search the 'net find & read something and offer it up as your own knowledge,
    and pretend you know what you're talking about - but you forget that you're dealing with people who have done this longer than some people here have been living. When I and others look up the information and present our opinions, it's based on the experience we have in that area.

    Unlike you and people like you, I have nothing to prove - my background, experience, certifications, awards (and modesty....) and knowledge speaks for itself. Am I always 100% correct? No - but not often, and that's because over the years I've learned to only comment about things I know about, and defer to others here like 2.0, Lan, etc. and those like them when I'm not as knowledgeable in a particular area. But that comes with the responsibility of having the kinds of jobs I've had in my life where a single mistake on my part could cost one or more people their lives. And unlike you, I take responsibility for what I tell people because that's been my Professional life for many years.
    Those of us here who are Professionals don't always agree, but the difference is that each of us has earned the others' respect because they've earned that right and professional courtesy from years of hard work and experience, and have proven here and elsewhere that their opinions have merit, are worthwhile, and most of all can be trusted.

    The others haven't said much simply because you haven't become worth their time to slam. 2.0 will tell you I'm being courteous to you in light of some of the frauds he's slammed here in the past. He's just more eloquent at it, being from where he is. Me? Well, at my age I'm just old fashioned.

    Hover is right in that I'll sometimes appear to criticize too harshly those I don't mean to, and I apologize for those instances. But these days it's hard to not to get frustrated with the absolute and complete stupidity of people who have computers today. They treat them like a toaster - plug it in and adjust the temp knob and it should work all the time. Well, it's just not like that is it?
    But I told him that he'd know the difference between whether I really mean it or I'm just needling someone. In case you're not sure, I'm NOT needling YOU.

    The average user doesn't know better, as they're just using what minimal knowledge they have to find a solution to a problem - you and those like you are worse than the average user because you know enough to BS others who don't know enough to know any better, and if they're injured as a result you care nothing so long as your 2" ego is satisfied.

    So, while I and others here can't prevent you from posting, I'll be dam.ned if I'll sit by and let you post BS or crap just for the sake of your own ego. There's always someone like you on every forum who thinks they know everything, more than the engineers and designers, more than the professionals, all because you can do it on a few systems within your own world and know how to access a world full of electronic information with information that professionals in the business have provided, modify it a bit and present it as your own, or use it verbatim as your own. But your initial attempts at trying to Spam this forum and your posts have already outed you. You're about as full of it as a stuffed turkey is on Thanksgiving. But most professional blow-it-alls are.

    I apologize to the others here for this rant - I meant to do it on Sunday, but realized it was Easter.

    As Hover would say, "Back to our regularly scheduled BS"
     
  24. CyberVisions

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    I can do that if you do either a Firefox update or Windows update. WU's are great for changing IE options back to default, or at least one or two zone settings.
     
  25. kindheart

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    You never know, maybe those poor "people (like) you" are a scientist with a PhD and a long experience :) There are times and types of discussions when the wise should stop responding.

    We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of others, without fearing it (Thomas Jefferson)
     
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    They'll give you a replacement if you want, but it's the capacitors in the Adapter itself making the noise when they're under load.

    Since not everyone has the issue, and the HDX's overall load is relatively consistent save for resource management issues and peripherals, the likely difference is the input voltage. Just using a power strip or even a battery backup doesn't cut it if you live in an area with a lot of voltage/line frequency fluctuations on the main power line going to your home or apartment building. Even dropping as much as .5hz can put a strain on systems, or going up by .5. We have a lot of brownouts and voltage fluctuation in our area, and I used to have problems until I put AVR UPS's on all of my electronic equipment. An AVR is really the only way to ensure clean power/stable frequency going to your gear. I've got 2 of the AC Adapters for the HDX and haven't had any issues.

    Remember that the Adapter is just a transformer, and if you've ever heard one big enough you know that they all make some noise. It's just when the input voltage is off or it's under load is when the pitch changes enough for you to hear it.

    HP & Compaq Notebooks PCs - AC Adapter Makes Hissing, and/or Crackling Noise, and May Feel Warm to Touch

    ISSUE:
    The AC Adapter of the HP or Compaq Notebook PC makes a hissing, and/or crackling noise and may feel warm to the touch.
    This is more prevalent after the adapter has been connected to AC power for a period of time.

    SOLUTION:
    AC Power adapters do emit high frequency sounds (15 kHz-20 kHz) that may be misunderstood as hissing or crackling noise. This is normal and not an indication of a failing adapter.
    The temperature of the adapter also may feel warm to the touch. This is normal operation too.
     
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    Yea it was some sort of update..I don't know what. I did a Firefox update but it was a couple days before it. I did update to stupid IE 8 so maybe that did something.
     
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    you remind me of kanye west. lol


     
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    I have the noise too, but as CyberVisions explained, it's not a problem.
     
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    HP says it's not a problem. I said you should think about getting an AVR to clean up your input power, because that's why I think it happens. I might be wrong, but it's obviously a voltage/load related issue, and the HDX doesn't draw that much power. A low voltage input from the wall outlet will cause a significant effect on any electronic unit plugged into it that is not going through a line conditioner first. Even if it doesn't fix the problem, you should always have clean power going to your system anyway, not just a power strip or Battery UPS. There are Battery UPS's that are also AVR's, but not all of them are - they have to be specifically labeled as such.

    I have one UPS that's not an AVR unit that always has issues when the line voltage coming to the house drops below a certain point. The UPS will drop offline and switch to battery, triggering the alarm (usually when I'm asleep). It's a real problem in our area. I need to get off my a$$ and get another AVR to replace it.

    You can get a Tripplite AVR for about $99 at Costco - I use them for our Ghost equipment (I/R surveillance system and recorders), and for my desktops/peripherals, along with a larger 1500va APC unit.
     
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    LOL - Thanks - I'll consider that a compliment. :cool:
     
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    .

    "’Tis Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool, Than to Open Your Mouth & Remove All Doubt" - Abraham Lincoln

    Oh, you’re a Scientist and Ph.D now? Well EXCUUUSE ME Dr. Bull$hit! You should heed your own words - you're obviously no wiser because you just keep on responding. As far as "respect" goes - respect is earned, sir, not blindly given for no reason. The only respect that matters to any Professional is that which he/she has earned through hard work, dedication, and assistance of those who need it because they have no other recourse. And as a Professional, I will always respond to and confront those like you who would presume to know more than those who have dedicated their lives to their professions. If you think I'm just going to quietly sit by and let you BS people who don't know any better, then think again Sparky - I'm just getting warmed up.

    Those here whom I would presume to call friends and fellow Professionals have earned my respect by their posts, which are thoughtful and add to our knowledge. You sir, have not, nor are you ever likely to. The world is full of people who firmly believe that respect is an inherent right that goes with rank, education, or title. Bull. Think about a quote before copying from Wiki and using it. And frankly, to be honest, I've never met a scientist or Ph.D with any common sense or technical ability.

    Do not confuse confidence, knowledge, and experience with boasting. I know what I know, and I know that I'm da.mned good at what I do. That's not a boast - that's just a fact and I've worked da.mned hard to achieve what I have in my life, as most of my peers have. I am honored when people seek out my guidance and knowledge, and not offended when they opt not to listen to it. I cannot stop people who willingly wish to jump off a cliff, even when I've told them how to keep from doing it. Unlike you, I don't presume to know what I don't. If I, like Lan and 2.0, weren't experts in our Professions, we wouldn't be of much use to our clients. The things I'm not good at, I admit to and defer to others like them. Any true Professional does the same thing. And while we might not always agree on a particular topic, we all know that each has the recognition and respect of our industry peers, have paid our dues, and have earned the right for each others’ comments and knowledge to be taken seriously. You sir, wish to be acknowledged as an "expert" without cause or justification, presuming that others will accept your posts without question. I hate to disappoint you, but you've come to the wrong thread if you think you can get away with that fantasy around here. You should consider hiring Mr. Roarke and Tattoo instead.

    As far as Scientists and Ph.D's, I have been privileged in my career to have known and worked with some of the best and finest in their fields - those people are knowledgeable in their own areas, and I applaud them for it. But they gladly deferred to people like me because they, like you, don't have the knowledge or experience in my Profession to make a decision or judgement on matters concerning it, just as I would defer to them and seek their advice in their own field if I needed to.

    There's only one word for someone who would presume that a job or Ph.D in any field makes them an expert at anything or everything but their own field - ARROGANT

    My own cousin, who served with me in the same Submarine Squadron in the '80's has almost finished his doctoral dissertation in Electrical Engineering - though we have similar backgrounds, and I'm good, that kid is an absolute genius in our field. He's probably forgotten more than I know about Electronics theory. Yet as much as he knows, he would never presume to know everything like you, especially in fields which he doesn't have that much knowledge or experience.

    One thing I do know - you're no scientist or Ph.D, at least not in any technical field - your previous posts already confirm that. You don't even know how to use the acronym properly. A Ph.D in B.S. isn’t anything to boast about. You must think the real experts here are really stupid not to notice where you're getting your information from. Oh, I forgot - you DO think we’re more stupid than you are.

    You see, those of us who DO know this stuff know it well enough to explain it in detail. You just add a link and a comment based on available information, and add your own conjecture or limited experience to it. You don’t offer any information unless you first have a way to look up the references of others on the Internet, giving enough to make it seem like you know the material, but not enough to prove you don't.

    I knew about the Photoshop CS4 GPU/OpenGL problem because I have both copies of Photoshop CS4, and I saw and read the notice in the program that the other poster didn't which flagged the possible problems. I chided him for it because frankly I'm sick and tired of irresponsible users who do not take the time or assume the basic responsibility of learning the basic operation and maintenance of their systems and the programs they use, and then blame companies like HP when their mistakes, ignorance and negligence cause their systems to fail. I didn’t have to look up the link as it’s on the program’s Help menu. You only commented on it when I posted the information about it, to try and make it appear like you know what you’re talking about, just like you do with anything you post here.

    You want us to believe you actually know something of technical value? Dazzle us with your technical explanations of how things work or why they don't work. Enlighten us with your knowledge and experience gained over decades of working on electronics and computers. Engage us with tales of your work in microelectronics manufacturing and processes. Transfix us with your military exploits and adventures. Tell us about your days as a Bench Test Engineer, or work in Integration & Testing. Blind us with the knowledge you’ve gained by working on hundreds or thousands of computers. Allow us to view examples of your fantastic work in the Web and Media Industries. Overwhelm us with your wondrous media creations. Excite us with your dissertations on Network Engineering. Astonish us with your years of wisdom gained by selflessly helping others. Please, Dr. B.S., by all means, Educate the rest of us poor clueless saps here on how much we really don’t know about our own Professions.

    As much knowledge as I have, I'm always learning and studying to keep up every day with new technology hitting the streets so that I can advise my clients. I learn a lot from the people here on this thread, even newcomers - A good example is one of our newest, RickiBerlin. He's not the greatest with his English, but he’s good enough with it that he's brought some outstanding information to our thread. What have you brought besides Spam (which 2.0 recently reminded me was a link to a dangerous website), BS, and the absolute arrogant inference that you know more than those that build these systems and those of us here who have been certified to work on them? Banging on the lenses of a DVD doesn’t count; I won’t repeat here what my friends who are HP Engineers said when I mentioned that, but suffice it to say it took some time for them to stop laughing before saying something about you traveling to a dark area, along with your “suggestion”.

    Agriculture or Animal Sciences maybe? That's where you'd find a Bull. From DeVry or a correspondence course, or someone with a degree from some school that no one ever heard of? That’s probably it. Not that it makes any difference anyway, because the fact remains that in the end, you're just like most of the jerks that get information from people like us and use it for your own ego and advantage. No real Professional would try to hawk a piece of junk on a website, or presume to know more than experts in the field. You post stuff like you actually believe that you know more than HP Engineers and Scientists. I won't add tech because these days that's not much of a leap. And you care nothing that your posts may cause others harm. To our knowledge you have not removed your links to that bad website. You are a walking poster child for Irresponsibility.

    Professionals consider the advice they give others carefully, so that if they choose to follow that advice they're the better for it, and not worse off. Professionals care that the advice they give to others does not injure them or cause them loss in any way. Professionals care when those who are not Professionals, demean and cause harm to their Profession and others by statements or actions, and do not sit idly by without inaction. Professionals care when those they have dedicated their career to helping are taken advantage of by others just to satisfy their own egos. Professionals help people when needed, and not just because they have to or because they're being paid. Professionals do not openly seek validation or reward for what they do - the satisfaction of helping others is their reward. They help others because that's what it means to be a Professional.

    Professionals also know another Professional by the knowledge and wisdom they impart to others, and the care and caution with which they do so. You sir, ARE NO PROFESSIONAL by any definition of the word. You're just an average user, with a bit of knowledge and an arrogant attitude, who knows how to use the internet to find the information of others, and use your own limited knowledge to formulate an explanation you think might be right, presenting the knowledge of others falsely as your own. And while you in fact may be educated to some degree, I recognize you for who and what you are. I've dealt with people like you my entire career, especially when I was a Govt. Inspector. Someone who pretends to know it all, but when it comes right down to it doesn't know jack $hit. Every major Aerospace and Defense Contractor I ever had responsibility for always had at least one person like you who thought they could BS the local Fed and get the company’s problem product signed off and bought, to get that pat on the back from the Boss nad maybe even a promotion. A true Kiss A$$. And every one of them who tried to BS me I exposed and had them sent packing, along with some “Corrective Action” to the company for even thinking they could get away with BS’ing me or my peers to begin with.

    People who contribute good information don’t have to be an expert in a given field - Dominick is one fine example. He consistently adds to the discussion with great material, and cares about the others who view this thread. Not many people would go to the trouble he did to find a source of RAM for us, and then spend his own time and money to get it. He’s not an expert in the field, nor does he presume to be. But his attitude and spirit is the same or better than any good Professional in our industry that I’ve met. That’s the difference between good people like him and self-serving, egotistical, arrogant jerks like you who presume they know better than everyone else. He, like us, have others' best interests in mind. All you care about is yourself.

    I might not be the most eloquent person, but one thing I’ve always been proud that I am that many aren't, is honest, ethical and principled. I don't BS people; I say what I think and mean what I say. I choose to help others because the industry and profession that has given me a good life has suffered because of people like you who pretend to know what they don’t and take advantage of others to satisfy their childish need for an ego boost. You’re the type of person who would recommend a motherboard change for a loose power plug problem to some poor individual to gain a buck at their expense, literally. I’m surprised you haven’t yet posted a procedure on how to take apart a hard drive in your garage to clean the platters and seek heads with a rag, some Q-tips and some Windex.

    The late Admiral Hyman G. Rickover was in charge of Navy's Reactor Program when I was riding submarines - much of his philosophy about responsibility, dedication, honesty and integrity flowed down to us in the Submarine Force. All of us in Submarines were proud and privileged to say that we were fortunate enough to serve at a time when his leadership, wisdom and decades of experience were part of our daily lives. His philosophy and attitude have stayed with me over the years. You could stand to learn something from him, though no doubt you'd instead tell everyone that you're wiser than he was.

    So please, spare myself and the others here any inferences about being a “Scientist” or a “Ph.D”. None of those I’ve worked with would ever act like you do, and they're usually too busy to be bothered trying to boost their egos on website forums. But I guarantee that if someone like you presumed to them to know more about their fields than they do, they’d treat you for what you are as I do, an amateur at best, and an outright fraud at worst.
     
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    Windows 7 Build Steps to ensure stability.

    After many many loads, these are my personal steps to load a stable Win 7 system that is bulletproof, at least for me. Everything works well except the yellow vs. blue button colors. I'm not doing blu-ray on my laptop. Even the Volume control is stable with my external sound card. I have not validated the other buttons as I don't use them. System stability is more important to me than system speed. I hope it may save some of you some grief. I'm not in the genius category of many of you people, but I have been doing this computer stuff for decades. I have an HP HDX 9217, 2.8 GHz system running Win 7 64 bit that I bought in May 2008 so I have some time in the system.
    These are my 'personal' notes, so please ignore some of my steps.

    Load the OS disk from a cold boot, pick the option to format the drive first to wipe it to ensure Windows won't use old data, and load a clean install. I have caught Windows using old data on a 'clean' install so may a word to the wise be sufficient here.
    WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!!!! If you can't wait, force a Windows Update. I Allow Windows to do it's system upgrades and perform reboots before I try and load any other HP drivers. Always reboot when asked. Let the Windows Update system do all it's loads before you ever load an HDX driver from HP. This may take at least 2 maybe 3 reboots before you get all the updates loaded without errors. Errors do and will occur with some MS updates, so keep running MS Update until they all load. Steps later such as the TV tuner won't work until all these updates are in place. Many HP drivers are loaded via Windows Update so you don't want to duplicate and overwrite a stable system with your personal HP HDX drivers loaded from the HP site in later steps.
    Check the Action Center or the Windows Update messages for the status of updates and for other error messages. This is a necessary step as you must keep running the Win 7 Update until Windows 7 calms itself down by resolving all it's internal virgin load problems. Yes, it clobbers itself even if you have been good. If you have been playing a game while the loads are occurring, you might have to accept responsibilty for the unstability.
    Change the personal picture from a flower to my "Mr T" bitmap in the start menu. This is very important to me.
    Reset the windows background.
    Redirect the Documents, Pictures and Music files to the Data drive. (Start, right click on the item, pick properties, delete the defaults, add the new folder.)
    Add the Network printer via the IP address logic, skip the 'find it on the network' logic. Mine is at 192...197
    Install the HP HDX drivers from the web or from the eSata external drive in the below sequence. Reboot when asked, then continue. (Note, I have all the HP dot COM drivers preloaded on an external drive so I don't have to go out on the network for them.)
    1) Finger print reader 64 bit, sp37920
    2) Finger print drivers 64 bit, sp37932. System will want to reboot and do it
    3) Remote control, sp37925
    4) TV Tuner , sp38987
    5) Ricoh Card Reader driver, if it doesn't load in Windows Update. This has been inconsitent. Again, check the Action Center in Win 7 for the status of updates and for other error messages.
    Load Google Earth from the external drive and load the "My Places" from the external drive
    Load the Creative Sound Blaster SB X-FI drivers from the external drive. I have really good sound in my office. MY HDX anchor is a desktop, not a laptop.
    Reset the IE default location and load the bookmarks in the C drive User area
    Run the media center and setup the TV stations and sound to 5.1
    Now I load the AVG security software. Consider this a software validation/recommendation.
    It takes just under 21 GB to load the Win 7 Beta build 7000 and I'm hot to have SSD experience.
     
  34. lancorp

    lancorp Notebook Virtuoso

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    Cyber and KH,

    May I humbly request a "cease fire" of the personal attacks and insults (not to mention the "Novella" length posts)?

    Obviously you guys have issues which cannot be resolved by posting flaming attacks back and forth.

    We, as professionals (right, Cyber?), are all here to contribute to the forum in a professional way, and it only benefits EVERYONE to stay ON TOPIC. It benefits no one to publically humiliate anyone. If you must continue, there is always the option of using the Private Message feature.

    Thanks.

    Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming...
     
  35. maarten08

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    Thanks for the advice, but I'm not going to buy an AVR :p.
    I purchased my HDX back in may, and from the first day I had the crackling sound. I don't hear it much, but I do hear it when the battery is at 90-100% and when computer is under full load ;-).
    I don't consider it as a problem, so I'm going to do nothing about it.

    PS, I'm going to get 2x WD 7200rpm/320GB drives at the end of June.

    Greetings from Belgium ;)
     
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    If you're not adverse to Seagate, you might want to look into getting the Seagate 320GB 7200 RPM HD's as they are faster than the WD's of the same.

    I have 4 of them (2 of each HDX) and they have been great.

    Here's a performance comparison chart:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2.5-hard-drive-charts/Average-Read-Transfer-Performance,675.html
     
  37. Dominick_7

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    Could anyone please recommend a good Express card to get for video capture and (primarily) to stream out to my Slingbox? I'd like the options to do coaxial, composite, and or other outputs if possible. I got the Slingbox Pro HD to replace my old original Slingbox that i'm now going to sell, thinking for some reason it had an HDMI input..but it only has composite and I can't really find much of anything to use as far as out puts are concerned...unless the coaxial in the back of the HDX works which I doubt it would since I think its an input only.. Thanks.

    PS: If anyone could recommend a good reasonably priced portable rugged hard drive of 500GBs or more I'd greatly appreciate it as well. Thanks.
     
  38. maarten08

    maarten08 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm not adverse to Seagate, thx for the suggestion.
    Maybe I should read some reviews of both hard disks and then see what one is the best (price/performance, ...)
     
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    You could look into getting the HP quickdock which has Component video out and spdif out. It's the older model that I'm referring to. Model # ES631AA

    Reference:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834998049

    http://cgi.ebay.com/HP/COMPAQ-DV200...temQQimsxZ20090418?IMSfp=TL090418156007r16767
     
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    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    Anyone thinking of getting the OCZ Vertex SSD's might want to hold off for just a bit as G.Skill debuts their Falcon series which is based on the same Indilink controller as the OCZ Vertex.

    And you know how G.skill likes to price things to compete...

    http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_newproduct&no=24
     
  41. Dominick_7

    Dominick_7 Notebook Deity

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    Cool. Do you put this underneath your notebook? I guess Svideo is good enough.. Theres one port for composite on the Slingbox which I use for my DVR though I guess I could unplug it for when I want to stream from my HDX...SVideo is supposed to be better looking than Audio Video/Composite right? I' m trying to figure out which chord I need to buy at 13 ft to reach where I work in relationship to the Slingbox.. Hmm. Are there more extensive docking bays you know of that have more out ports, like including coaxial possibly? Thanks!
     
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    I just want to make sure you're actually referring to composite video (lowest quality) and not Component video (highest quality & HD). It's easy to mix the two terms up. But this docking station outputs all three - component video, S-Video, and composite. Plus it also outputs SPDIF. Since you got the SlingBox Pro, you'd be able to output Component (hi-def) and SPDIF from the HDX with this docking solution.

    S-video is better than composite, but not by much. Component is the best as it can carry 720P and 1080i video.

    You wouldn't necessarily place this docking station under the HDX.

    I don't know of any other docking stations that offer coaxial out.
     
  43. MatsudaMan

    MatsudaMan Notebook Consultant

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    Dude, all I can say is.....way too much time on your hands....lol. Kind of like giving a half an hour acceptance speech for a cheap watch. :)
     
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    Tradakk Newbie

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    Does anyone know a decent website to purchase this off of? I can't seem to find one w/ customization options like HP's site did while it still sold it. =/
     
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    You won't find any with customization options since it's a discontinued item. It was discontinued fall of last year.

    eBay appears to be the go to place for the last remaining HDX Dragons.
     
  46. Dominick_7

    Dominick_7 Notebook Deity

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    Yea I was asking about the lower quality cable inputs because they're easiest to access and switch out..ie I use my DVR with composite everyday, the other stuff like DVD player and such that use the not as much.. but if I can use component for it it's good to know..maybe I can get a splitter for component even.

    I bought one brand new for $40 bucks. That dood at the Ebay link wanted $32 for it used so it was a good deal no? It's like 80+ at other sites I checked at. They're talking about port 2, port 3...and an expansion aspect to the dock..do you know what they're talking about here?: http://macbuy.macworld.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=34311726&lot_id=9097424& . Seems to be something to do with compatibility but I'm not sure if it has other things as well.
     
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    That was definitely a good deal. I've seen new for >$100.

    As for expansion 3, you're good. HDX has the expansion 3 port. 2 was for older HP units.

    Don't know about a video source switcher for component video. I assume someone makes it. But it'd prolly be expensive.
     
  48. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's better to go vga > component adapter, they're way cheaper.
     
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    Does Windows 7 have a partitioning option so you can partition how much space you want it to take up on a particular hard drive?
     
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    Dominick_7 Notebook Deity

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    For anyone interested in getting yourself a full 8GBs of Memory for your HDX I'm selling 2 of the last 3 units on Ebay which I'm listing in the Notebookreview Marketplace. You can see the url links for the auctions here:


    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4763191#post4763191


    I don't know if we'll order anymore so if you think you may want to get them at a reasonable price feel free to check them out.

    EDIT: I keep not doing the ad right..so I have to keep re doing it to fit according to the strict forum rules..I'll get it down eventually..maybe..bah..Or you could just do a search in Ebay for it.
     
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