*HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

Thankyou for the quick replies. Also, on Newegg it kept talking about how there is no return policy. Does this apply to their website only? Could i return it to hp in 20 days or however short it is? For the processor. If it bothered me i could always get a 9300 or 9500 whenever Montevina comes out. They should be cheaper then. Thanks

 

Weird, I can really hardly hear the fan and the machine runs cold and nice...


cridgit001
You really feel like messing with the CPU? Dunno about that, maybe it's just me but I don't really like opening up laptops... Then again there are people like 2.0 who apparently like to take them completely apart right off the box for no apparent reason...



Matter of tastes I guess, maybe later on I will feel more confident... Anyway in theory you can do everithing but realistically I wouldn't like to buy two CPUs and go through all that just to gain a few frames in a silly game...

 

Mine was too before HWmonitor. But I live in a Zen/Feng Shui environment. I'm that guy that will "shush" butterflies when they flap their wings.

 

On June 18, 2008 we received this reply via email: "Thank you for contacting the HP Home & Home Office Sales Center. I understand that you are concerned if the HP Pavilion HDX Entertainment Notebook PC is going to be discontinued. I am sorry, but we do not have updates on when the notebook will be discontinued. Rest assured, all the products that you will see on our website are the most current products that we have. We will try our best to inform you if in case this product is going to be discontinued."

We believe: the HDX is not going away anytime soon - Confidence is high!

 

There will be little to no difference between the T8100 and the T9300 in gaming and only on certain ones. If you do feel the need for more, you at least have the T8100 to help finance the purchase of the T9300. There are many users who have the 8800GTS with a T5450 that would love to have that T8100. I’m trying to figure out what the heck does HP have to do to sell this thing? You’re getting something you don’t have to worry about painting (would love to have my D810 painted), you’re getting a nice CPU performance wise, all the multimedia your heart desires, and to top it off you get a Blu-Ray drive, 4GB of RAM and a 8800GTS for $1499! The Blu-Ray drive and 4GB memory alone is a $350 value added! I’m starting to feel bad for the ones who had to leave out the Blu-Ray drive, just to try and get the system under $2500 and that’s not even with the 8800GTS not too long ago.
As far as display….. I would definitely opt for the true 1080p on a 20.1 screen (that must look amazing), but at what cost? 1680x1050 gives the typical user the perfect median between performances and visuals graphics wise….which can be said for the whole notebook in general.
I’m so glad to have found out about this laptop, and it was my grandmother of all people who pointed it out to me (that’s sad).

Now compare the one at eBay with the one at Newegg?


http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-HDX-Notebook...HDD-20-1W_W0QQitemZ230199915850QQcmdZViewItem

 

they also sell the hdx9494nr on frys.com for the same price which is good for me because they deliver international.

Unfortunately they are all sold out at frys.com. I might buy one when it becomes available there.

 

You think they may have them in the stores(Frys). I have only seen an hdx in person once and at the time i wasnt looking for it.

 

Also, i think this may be the wrong place but i figured i would ask anyways. My itunes library is important to me so is there anyway to transfer it from my xp laptop to the dragon which runs the 64-bit vista?

 

Well i went ahead and got it. Worst case i just have to burn and re import my songs.

 

Would someone please point me to the XP drivers and instructions for this beast?
Thanks!

 

Not worth it to run XP on it. The thing was design for Vista and runs best on it. But if you must and suffer reduced functionality and buggy performance:

http://www.hpdrivers.mercs.us/

You're better off running a virtual machine with XP as guest. check out VMware player.

 

iTunes 7.6 or later runs on Vista 64bit. So you're good.

 

They are on the Frys and best buy websites
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8477141&type=product&id=1186006186269
http://shop3.frys.com/product/5635551

but they might not be configed the way you want. and just cause they are on the site doesnt guarantee they will be on display at your local store. probly best to call

 

cridgit001 did u buy it from frys or newegg?

 

Either that or you just use a USB drive to transport your songs. I’m also getting a 320GB USB drive with mine, since I find those so useful….alone with the many USB flash drives I own.

 

Got mine today, optimzing it at the moment....

 

Dude!

Its 22:30 your time, and that’s all you have to say? You better send me some pics or something (thru PM), geeez! German is welcomed, of course. Now where did you order it from? I might need to send a backup plan, just in case they are ausverkauft where she is buying from.


Oh...she is buying from T-Mobile direct.

http://www.it-shop.t-systems.de/tsy..._=factsheet1&articleid=292925&kid=24049psmsuc

 

Hey^^
Ill send you pictures later, im at a friends house atm.
ERm, i ordered from here http://notebooknet.de/product_info.php?products_id=3374

here are some shops listed:

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a320793.html


To the notebook itself: it's HUGE!
The display is unbelievable sharp and it's quiet woah

 

I checked out the VM site, but that seems a little above my head. What aspect of XP is deficient with the HDX?
Thanks for all of the time you have devoted to this thread!
Joe Neil

 

I got mine from newegg. I got the rush thing so that it may be on the truck this afternoon and i got next day UPS so i guess i could get it tomorrow. Do they ship on saturdays?

 

Quicktouch panel
CIR (consumer infrared) remote control
No subwoofer
Video drivers cause frequent and random crashes.

There were two others things no one could seem to get working but I forget offhand. The major player in getting XP on the HDX (who owns that link to the drivers) went back to Vista.

As for using the virtual machine, it's actually much easier than it looks. VMware has to make it look mightier than it is because of their corporate clientèle. However, I didn't give you the complete story since I'm using VMware Workstation and not the player. The workstation makes the virtual appliances, the player only plays them. A virtual appliance defines the specs of the virtual computer - such things as RAM, HDD size, networking, USB, Virtual BIOS, DOS, etc. And that's as easy as pie to setup. A bunch of dialog boxes. But again, you need VM workstation in order to do that. I use it because I have legacy business software that won't run on Vista x64.


The alternative is Parallels workstation. It's pretty good but not as good as VMWare.

 

I believe that's a value added service that has to be chosen with UPS. Usually adds $12 to the shipping total. Newegg tends to be Johnny-on-the-spot with shipping.


Fedex Residential delievers on Saturday for free.

 

Well i hope to get it tomorrow in any case. Now i just need to go over how to do a clean vista install.

 

I tried a search for a clean vista install guide and i just found one for a lenovo. Is there one that is specifically for HP's because some of hp's programs like their security shield i like. Is there a guide to do a clean install while keeping stuff like that?

 

I might turn my on just to see if it works, but I’m going to disassemble it right away. There’s no way I can use the computer, knowing there’s a bunch of “Goop” hindering my performance. Besides…I’m going to remove the TV Tuner, since it will be useless for me here. I’ve searched for the pictures I’m sure you posted by now, but can’t find them. Would you be so kind to point me in the right direction of where you posted them?

 

To do a clean install you will need OEM or Retail version of Vista. As you may know, the HP recovery disks are not the OEM versions to do a clean install.

I bought OEM version of Vista x64 off newegg for $99. (Since I ain't got no friends with a retail version of Vista.)

Don't use the product code that it comes with. Instead use a program called activation backup and restore to retrieve the product and activation code off your computer. After all you paid for the license.

For a guide on how to do a clean install on an HP, this one is tops:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=120228


Can't emphasize this enough: SAVE THE SWSETUP folder.

As for keeping security shield, I'm not sure exactly what that is, but whatever it is, you should be able to find it or its equivalent in the SWSETUP folder.

 

LOL, I didn't get around to posting them yet. TV tuner removal is cake though. It's a mini-PCI-e card with a mini coaxial connector. You'd want to insulate that connector end if and when you decide to take the card out.

If I were you, I'd run the system for a few days before taking it apart. Check things out. Get familiar with it. There's no quality control on the "goop." Both my HDX's had different amounts and spread quality. You may find no need to do anything at all.

Download HWmonitor and check your temps. Run 3dmark06, Wprime, PCmark05 to stress things and burn in.

Also, don't overlook Arctic Ceramique. Though I used Arctic Silver 5. I may go back in a few months from now and redo with ceramique on the CPU. I'll see. Ceramique seems to be working well on my TX2500. My extreme temps seem to be lower than many reported temps.

 

Here are some pics of the goop job they did....

1. on the GTS
2. The heatsinks - top is GPU's, bottom is CPU's + northbridge "putty wax" phase change pad.
3. on T9300

And last one is the Nvidia 8800M GTS heatspreader all cleaned up b/4 AS5 application.

 

Nice!

I see you have the T9300, did you order yours with the unit or bought it afterwards? It’s so nice that the Tuner is very accessible; I just hope HP lets me exchange the DVB tuner for the Hybrid tuner. Speaking of which….Have you used the TV Tuner yet? I’m planning on recording College football games, and it would be nice if the built-in Tuner is more than enough for what I want to do.

 

Has anyone found the PLL number for this thing yet? Mine comes on Monday.

 

Yeah, I ordered it with the T9300. TV Tuner works fine. I'm a bit too far away from the city (35miles) to pick up HD broadcasts without artifacts and freezes. But I've plugged the cable line into it and it works great. Only only picks up SD programming via cable since it doesn't have a QAM tuner. Though SD (standard -def) programming isn't as clear and sharp as on my Sony, it's perfectly viewable. I also used the S-video input to convert a VCR tape to digital.

As for the Hybrid tuner, you'll probably have to buy one from HP spare parts. I believe there are laws that govern what type goes in what unit per territory in order to garner regulatory approval of the entire unit.

 

Bought the extreme chip did you? It's not overclockable in this unit. Chipset is PM965. Southbridge is 82801HBM (ICH8ME).

Not only that, but HP says as much... (from their website ):

And the BIOS doesn't provide access to the vitals that one would need to overclock.

GPU is overclockable by using ntune. I've done a 50mhz and 100mhz overclock on Core and mem with a 1-2deg C average max temp increase over standard clocked 65-67C observed max. 3D mark 06 score jumped 500 and 1000 respectively. I'm currently running stock clocks though. One aspect of ntune blue screens the system. I believe it was the monitor app. So don't click it. Otherwise latest version works fine.

 

So if what your saying is true 2.0, when i plug my cable into the back of my hdx, i will only be able to see a few channels and not all like 60 or so? Also, dont i need some kind of adapter that goes between the hdx and the cable itself?

 

Is it just me or do I have some setting wrong? Using 1920x1200 and many web pages seem out of alignment. Radio buttons, hyperlinks, and even my entered text does not register properly. Is this because of the non standard resolution for this size display or what? Many thanks people, really look forward to this posting everyday and, of course, I love my beast as the rest of you do....David

 

Thanks for the suggestion! What kind of performance hit does one take with VM? I run a real time audio display app that will not run under vista, as well as some CAD. Thanks for your comments!
Joe Neil

 

Actually, when you plug cable in (HDX includes adapter dongle), you get all the standard def, non-scrambled channels. I'm on CableVision and can get about >100 channels. Just can't get hi-def because the tuner's ATSC and not QAM. If I get an outdoor antenna or some kind of super rabbit ear antenna, I'd be able to get better reception of OTA hi-def channels.

 

Ah good news. Thanks for the quick reply 2.0. I am counting down the hours now. Hopefully only 3-4 more till i get mine.

 

I observed no performance hit thanks to a CPU with dual cores and virtualization features. Some aspects of the VM'd XP run faster than the host Vista OS. I also do some web browsing in an XP VM, using that as a secure environment. Should it go belly up with some nasty trojan, I simply delete the VM and start another one.

 

Sorry for the random question but will Microsoft office 2003 run on vista?

 

Also, can i transfer my itunes with an ethernet cord?

 

On office 2003... Yes, but install the office service packs.

If you install outlook, you may have an error come up. Concerns file mapisvc.inf. If that happens, go to directory windows\syswow64. Right click on this .inf file and select properties. You're going to have to change the permission on it. Click the advanced tab Then owner. Take ownership of it and give your username full control. That should solve the problem.

 

Yes. Just make sure that you go to network and sharing center and uncheck password protected sharing. Makes sure network discovery and file sharing is on.

You should be all good then.

 

Many thanks 2.0.

 

This is quite simply...astonishing.

 

True, but if someone were to find the clock generator, then it can be overclocked by software. I the one I bought came with a T8100, then I got a T9300 to replace it. I'm hoping to find the PLL details, might even have to find it myself.

 

Ain't it!? Yeah, congrats!

 

Oh you mean using SETFSB? OK let me comb over my pics for finer detail. I might have taken a snapshot of the PLL. But knowing HP gear, might not be the best of ideas. I couldn't imagine going over 100 MHZ and deeming the system stable.

In any event, I'll report what I find.

 

Nope, didn't take pictures close enough to make out the text on the various chips. But the configuration seen on one of my better pics suggest that the PLL might be underneath where the keyboard is, and to the left of what appears to be the southbrigde Intel chip. Only thing that seems to match an ICS configuration silhouette which I'm guessing is what HP would use since they have in the past. But the exact code I can't make out. Would need some "CSI" image interpolating software.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

 

That's still helpful, now I know where to look.

 

Whats the default configuration for these HDX speakers? (the configure feature under playback devices) I am baffled... iv been trying to fix this for weeks now. Sometimes I get the sound to come out of just the bottom, sometimes it comes out of just the front 2, and sometimes I get no sound at all...