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    *HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by J-Bytes, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. CompTrekkie

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    On the bottom right in the task bar right click on the speaker icon, left click on playback devices, left click on digital output device, and choose set default on the bottom right.

    That should do it for you. :)
     
  2. lancorp

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    Why does the X9000, being a faster CPU than the T-series, run cooler than the T-series?
     
  3. AlphaHeX

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    My HDX from Newegg also has 1 dead pixel but we have to live with it. For me it is at the top of the screen and in 1/3 on the right. After a month of using I can tell you that this is not annoying for me.
     
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    Thanks a bunch Cybervisions! I went ahead and ordered the HP/Targus roller case. It should arrive tomorrow - I'll give my impressions when I get it. I'm thinking I made the right decision since I'll only take my HDX out of the house for long trips. Thanks again for the input.
     
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    Dunno. Taking Rumba's word for it. Haven't seen any write-ups about it running cooler than any T series. XPS 1730 guys haven't reported it to be so. Neither Sager guys. don't recall reading that about the gateway gaming 17" either. Not that I was actively looking for the info. Just don't recall seeing anything towards that end. But then again, the HDX has somewhat better cooling than the rest.

    Being that it's 45nm like the T series, it can't run any hotter though. It may use less core voltage than the T series. That would make a difference. One of these days I'll like into it.
     
  6. JohnnyFlash

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    I think it is. You should hear mine crackle and buzz since I moved to South Korea (220v). The first day I was very scared, but it's been almost a month now and no issues so far.

    Last time I ran it, I got 27,000 I think. Something close to that. My T8100 is the limit on that front, but this thing games really nice.
     
  7. Sven77

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    i got the Dicota MultiGiant bag, heres some pics, weighs a ton !

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    you have to take out the small bag on the inside to make it fit

    [​IMG]

    the HDX fits loose in the bag, but i don't notice it moving to much when carrying.
     
  8. JohnnyFlash

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    So you like it then? How's the build quality?

    I may be able to get one of these.
     
  9. hemachayart

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    How is it ? Did you get it work? look like you haven't got it yet. Please let's us know 4gb ddr2 can work on HDX. We will go for it.
     
  10. hemachayart

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    Can some one give experience what drive suit for HDX9494nr? Some say 177 some 175 mine 167 for Nvidia. Mine 5929 like some one vote in here. And won't update from microsoft. Please any more for this device. HP discontinue us ,so they may not give any update on HP site so we're on our own.
     
  11. carb0n

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    I just got the one from Neweggm it rocks, no dead pixels, etc.
    Here's my 3dmark01 score...

    [​IMG]

    post yours?
     
  12. Sven77

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    its a fine bag, got it for 43$ delivered from amazon. cheapest around, everywhere else was out of stock.
     
  13. JohnnyFlash

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    Ya, no kidding. Try finding one in Asia, lol.

    I got lucky and found a source finally though. Glad to hear you like it.
     
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    Cannot test it. My LCD monitor's VGA cable doesnt fit into the VGA connector of the HDX. My Toshiba 46ZF is not recognized (HDMI) in nvidia control center and force mode doesnt work - even after restart. I am pretty sure it is coming from the LCD, because the noise it triggered by hitting FN+F7 or by disconnecting power plug. Its of course not the external power supply of the HDX. The second HDX9320 has got the same problem. In Bios they are named HDX9200 although I bought a HDX9320 and a HDX9350. CH544EA#ABD and CH548EA#ABD.

    would it have changed something. Is there a known issue that can be fixed?

    Unfortunately I believe I will send both back. I will try my luck once more.
     
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    Celeron M is a 65nm CPU. Penryns are 45nm. Apples to oranges. All 45nm parts will have better thermal characteristics than 65nm. As 32nm which will debut late 2009/early 2010 will have better thermal properties than 45nm CPUs. (Wish AMD would come out with a mobile 45nm CPU that's socket S1 compatible.)

    I just haven't seen anything that states that an X9000 Penryn would have better thermal properties than a T series Penryn. Also, ambient temps would make a difference, say, if one's test room for the was in the low sixties.

    The other thing is most of the temp posts I've read talk about the X9000 temps while overclocked. Naturally as that is the main attraction to the chip. And they all seem to report higher temps than any T series Penryn. But that's to be expected. Yet none seemed spooked which leads me to believe that the increase in temps is not out of line. So it stands to reason that their starting point, temp-wise, wasn't all that far away. Which would put their non-overclocked temps at something at or slightly below what most folks report as temps for a T series. Assuming normal room temps in the low 70's.

    But it's a hard thing to compare. I'd like to see a post where someone had say a T8100 or T9300 and dropped in a X9000 with before and after temps.

    As for the HDX, HP could have set the BIOS to slightly undervolt the X9000. HP is so heat conscious that they even went so far as to use a PLL chip the prevents overclocking. It wasn't enough for them to simply omit such features in BIOS.
     
  16. DuX

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    This is what my AC adapter is doing, loud buzzing which isnt normal...i can hear it when playing a game and wearing headphones for example! :eek:

    Currently in discussion with HP via email for a replacement after i phoned them and they said go back to where you got it from even though i said they would want the entire system back (which they did when i asked them), which to me is unacceptable, its under warranty HP replace the AC adapter for crying out loud! :rolleyes:
     
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    The model number discrepancy is bizarre. Does the sticker on the bottom say HDX9300? Can't imagine that as a good thing.

    BIOS is reporting that the motherboard is HDX9200. Up to you, but you might want to flash the BIOS with the latest version. You can always downgrade. The only downside is that if it reports your mobo correctly after flash (HDX9300), and the noise doesn't go away, you would lose a major complaint with HP. But then again, their tech support may recommend you flash the BIOS as part of their troubleshooting script.

    I don't know of any fix for it. Last time I saw something similiar to your problem, the owner reported that in addition to the whine, the bottom of the screen (bezel area with HP logo) was way too hot to touch.

    One other thing you might try is to remove the battery but let the HDX run only on wall power. See if the sound persists. Sometimes the charging circuit of notebooks makes a buzzing/whining sound depending on load.
     
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    Really? Got text on that? I own (2) HDX 9300 and they report HDX 9300 in BIOS.
     
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    It's actually not that big of a deal. TDP = thermal design power. If the 65nm max processor temp @ 35w was say 80 degC which the heatsink was designed to handle (for Merom) and you go and drop in a 45nm part (Penryn) which has a max temp of say 75 degC @ 44w...

    It just goes to show that 45nm produces less heat per watt than a 65nm part. That's all. But that's indicative of all 45nm Intel CPU's.

    The original HDX's used 65nm CPUs (Merom). The Penryn refresh in Jan saw temps drop and performance increase thanks to 45nm CPUs. But they used the same heatsinks from the original HDX 9000/9100's. For instance, the X7900 ran hotter and slower than the x9000. Just as the a 2.5GHz T9300 and 2.6ghz T9600 Penryns run cooler and faster than the 2.6ghz T7800 (Merom) in the HDX.

    All have the same TDP, but the Penryns have lower voltages. Which accounts in part for why you can drop a higher speed Penryn into any but low voltage Merom's slot and not have to worry about cooling.
     
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    Might account for why some things work on yours and not on others. Be an interesting study for everyone to post what HDX model their BIOS reports relative to the model they purchased.
     
  21. lancorp

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    Unfortunately, due to parking lot resurfacing at my delivery location, the UPS man eschewed delivery until late in the afternoon, too late for me to go pick it up.

    It was delivered though, so this morning, I will go get it and report back.
     
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    I have a CTO HDX. My order confirmation from HP doesn't show any model number like what you guys are reporting. My email confirmation just shows product # KR835AV. No 9xxx numbers...

    The bottom of my HDX show HDX9300, and my BIOS (F.39) shows HDX 9300.
     
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    I didn't know there were HDX 9400's...what's the difference between the 9300 and the 9400?? (WUXGA??)

    Not that I would want to, but can you order from HP HK and have it shipped to the US?
     
  24. iliketechnology

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    thats strange, the sticker tells:

    HP Pavillon HDX9200
    s/n: xxxx
    p/n: CH544EA#ABD
    HDX9350EQ

    Strange isnt it? Whats the difference between HDX9200 und HDX9300? When I had the HDX9480 Bios claimed HDX9300. But this one is only with WUXGA availbale.

    Recommendations?
     
  25. xanlexian

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    Sticker says "HDX9300"
    BIOS (f.39) says "HDX9300"
     
  26. lancorp

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    Here's the deal with the Dicota Multigiant bags...I've had one for a few months for my XPS M2010. I got it from Amazon (one of the few places that had them) and a couple of days later, POOF! Gone...not available anywhere.

    I contacted Dicota (Singapore, I think), and basically what happens is that when the distribution channel empties out here in the US, Dicota sends over more. That takes some time. So, naturally, there won't be any available for a month or two sometimes...but, ultimately, the stock does replenish.

    The bag, as others have shown and stated, is very basic. It's your standard $20 bag on steroids. Considering the other options, beggars can't be choosers. I've had the POUCH, and didn't care for it at all. It's nothing more than neoprene, and being that big, it just isn't sturdy, it looks dumb, and the design is very "Susie Homemaker" (like something my Mom would sew together).

    A toploader would be nice, but then I think, how would I get it out? Without a handle, 16 lbs is a lot to pull out of a bag with your fingertips!

    It's too bad HP didn't design the battery a bit differently, with an large indent on the edge where the hinge is...When I first unboxed my HDX, I lifted it from there (not knowing that was the battery compartment) and thought, WOW, this is easy to lift and carry! But, then I realized the battery was missing from there and once inserted, my "handle" was gone!

    Enough rambling...sorry. :eek:
     
  27. Phinfan

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    I agree. The AC adapter should not be making any noise. I have had a few HDX's and returned them for stuck pixels (really annoying). Out of those I had 2 of the HDX's AC adapters were making noise. The last one I got had a noisy Ac adapter and they replaced immediatly and told to dispose of the old adapter. Maybe I just happened to get lucky and get a CSR that actually had a clue.
     
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    I installed the 5929 on top of 5511 and she is running sweet. More volume and full control. When I used the 5929 I lost subwoofer. Totally awesome sound now. To really check out your sound download and intall the trial of
    http://www.ymec.com/products/dssf3e/ and run the "Frequency Response" option. Then you will now just where and what is working...Fantastic Group & Machine.....(Thanks Rumba) David
     
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    Curious. What HDX model do you have and what model does you BIOS report?

    It appears that HDX 9300 came with audio driver 5607.
     
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    Again, the desktop CPU's compared to in the article are 65nm parts of a CPU generation ago. Try finding an article that attempts to compare the X9000 with a 45nm desktop CPU like an E8x00. The 45nm desktop CPU will meet or beat it. Just as a 45nm desktop CPU will be more efficient than a 65nm desktop CPU of the prior generation.

    In any event, it doesn't lend to the reason why the x9000 should run a lot cooler than a T series penryn of the same die size (45nm). It doesn't seem to in other notebooks. Might have to do with HP undervolting the x9000 in BIOS or a faulty thermistor in your unit. Unless someone else can confirm. Or your ambient temps are much cooler than others who have reported.

    Bear in mind, your mobo's model number in BIOS is different than what HP says your model number is. The 9200 mobo may have a difference that accounts for the temp readings you're getting with that CPU. Each 9x00 for the HDX has a motherboard revision. The last two numbers + two letters represent configuration unless it's a CTO.
     
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    I've heard that if you want to add another hard drive, you have to buy some sort of hard drive cage? Where can you find it and how much does it cost? If there is a section in this thread can you direct me to it.

    I think there should be an HDX page, so we can organize into different HDX categories! That would be awesome.
     
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    But your BIOS reports your mobo as 9200.

    That's why I'm curious about what true mobo mobel number people have. So this way we can compile what drivers work with which model numbers. It'll avoid possible frustration for people.
     
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    I have all the HDX literature including promo sheets from when it debuted and none of it lists x7900's or X9000's selling point as it running cooler or being "more efficient." Just more powerful. Do you have any literature that specifically backs up what you're talking about? Some are considering an X9000 in the future and it would help to have hard evidence of what you are talking about. I'd especially like to hear from someone who has an HDX 9300 with x9000 who's BIOS also reports HDX9300.

    As for many machines out there with 9200 mobo's but 9300 model numbers, how do you arrive at that conclusion? What proof do you have other than your own? So far it looks like there are many more with everything matching than not if you extrapolate upwards from what has been posted here.
     
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    BIOS F.39 reports HDX9300. I thought I purchased a 9200. I used the IDT driver that was on my recovery drive (not 100% sure which it was). It appears HP really played with these models.....
     
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    Part numbers tend to correspond with the model number in BIOS, wouldn't you think?

    HDX 9000 & 9100's were ATI only as they all have motherboard/systemboard 448145-001. And used Merom 65nm CPUs.

    The 464591-001, Nvidia/ATI board starts at HDX 9200. They use 45nm Penryns.

    But in each case, they all have slight revisions on their mobos.

    There's a chronological order. HDX9000 was the first, followed by 9100.

    I belive that the 9200 starts the WUXGA screen but can't confirm.
     
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    What does the sticker on the bottom list the model number as?
     
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    Yeah, but in that one, what does the BIOS report? I don't think BIOS will report 9350EQ. OP says sticker has all that info. But again, that would be "some" and not "many."

    The point is, let's see what actual trend is out there. Not what we believe and see what if any effect this inconsistency manifests.
     
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    Thanks! I was expecting to see my TV in the list but this worked like a charm.
     
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    My sticker and Bios reads: HDX 9300

    Bios Version: F.39
     
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    Anybody know how to fix the buttons that are blue? I reinstalled vista... i tried the download off hp site but no luck
     
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    Brad,
    What link did you download your QP update from?

    I wondered when the Mat's BD's were going to show up. There was a rumor a couple of months back that HP was replacing the Sony drives with Mat's.
     
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    Glad I could be of help.
     
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    Then, by your logic, wouldn't a freshly built, right-from-the-factory HDX shipped last week have a 9400 model number? I'd think mine is one of the newest ones but is a 9300.
     
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    OK, now for the good news. First, a 4GB SODIMM module seems to work fine in the HDX. As a matter of fact TWO of them work great!

    I installed two of the fantastically-priced 4GB DDR2-667 G.Skill SODIMM's purchased from Newegg. Price was $170 each! (nearest competitor was $389 (Kingston) and $479 (Crucial) EACH! (Click-thru using Fatwallet and get an extra 3% back...just enough to pay for the shipping!)

    My F.39 BIOS shows 8192MB installed.

    Vista 64 shows 8190 Pysical Memory Total, and so does CPU-Z. The modules are 5-5-5-15, which is what the 2GB modules I was using, so no RAM performance losses.

    So, now I have a fully working HDX w/8GB RAM!! Yippee!! :D
     
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    Freaking awesome! Nicely done. Took one for the team and came out winning.
     
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    Not sure 9400 were shipped form HP as CTO in US. I think that number went to retail.

    But for sure, the 9000/9100 were first. followed by 9200/9300. 9400 is the lastest to be introduced by HP. I first saw them overseas before in the US.
     
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    Thanks! What's your take on needing a pagefile with 8GB of RAM?
     
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    Awesome news. I was waiting on the answer to this. That will definetly be my next upgrade.
     
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    Excellent news! Thanks for the "looking out"!

    You are the first that I know of with an 8GB RAM HDX.... congrats! :D
     
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