WOW, looking like this is about messed up. HP said I wont get a shipping box for, and I quote "up to 3 weeks due to a major backlog at the Huston Depot".![]()
They suggesdted, that I could take it to a authorised repair center (Best Buy etc...) and have them repair it, and HP would re-imburse me since its in warentee...something tells me...NOT. I also think they would just send it off anyway, its BIOS for gods sake....![]()
I did suggest that this is NOT acceptable and a option I wouold be open to is a trade out, basically I will return this system for a laptop of equal or better specs. The case manager said that is a possible solution and she would bring it up to her senior case manager. BUT....not gonna get my sweet 20' screen. Here is where I need help from you all (yes 2.0, I am asking you especially
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I am going to post my specs here, and out of HP's offering's of laptops , what would YOU reccomend I ask for that is close. (or better)
Would really like to stay at 4G ram and a dedicated Vid Card with 512MB or better
Thanks, here are my specs:
HP Pavilion HDX customizable Notebook PC
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme Processor X9000 (2.80GHz)
20.1" diagonal WSXGA+ High-Definition HP Ultra Brightview Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050)
50% OFF 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)!!
$100 OFF 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS
HP Imprint Finish (Dragon) + Microphone + Fingerprint Reader + Webcam
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection and Bluetooth(TM)
320GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (160GB x 2)
LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
Integrated HP HDTV Hybrid TV Tuner and 4 Altec Lansing speakers +the HP
Triple Bass Reflex subwoofer
9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Power Pack software - muvee autoProducer Premium, Cyberlink DVD Suite
Premium and Serif Web Plus
Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
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HDX 18T
Configure with the T9600 which is slightly more powerful than the X9000 thanks' to Montevina's 1066mhz bus as compared to the 800mhz bus that the x9000 runs on.
As for the Nvidia 9600 GT, it's half as powerful as the 8800M GTS. But, if you're not a gamer, no worries. If you're a casual gamer (a term I really don't understand but figure I'd throw it out there), it should be enough power to get by on. Just means you won't be able to play @ native res (1920x1080) with al graphic details set to max. You'll have to settle on medium to low depending on the game and graphic attribute.
You should also configure it with dual hard drive since getting an additional bracket had you configured a single HDD is a hassle.
Other than that, just go onto their website and configure away.
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NSI PHISHING SCAM ALERT
For those of you here like myself who administer several domain accounts using Network Solutions, or are primary Registrants with Public Registration info, there is a new phishing scam involving a bogus NSI email message. So far one of my clients has received one - fortunately they forwarded it to me without clicking on the link.
The message subject line says "Your Domains are expired at this time!". Not only is this a bad email, it's written with bad grammar. The scam looks to get real NSI Account Manager login/pw data from the mark, and if you're managing a lot of domains like me, giving this data to a con site will leave you in a major league world of shiite.
NSI Account Administrators, Registrants, and Admin/Tech Contacts should already have a copy of the email alert from NSI warning about this scam, but if you haven't seen it yet, you should warn your clients about what's happening. -
Ouch..the vid card gonna hurt, I am not a serious gamer, but there a few on line games I play...oh well. Probably not gonna have as good a sound system either eh ?
Definately going with the dual HD setup @ 7200 RPM. Was hoping the quad core was a option, doesnt look like it at the moment. I did here back that they will allow a trade out, but gonna be without a system untill 1) I ship this back to them 2)They get it in their tracking system 3)They then will authorise a credit of equal value as the origional price 4)they build it and it arrives at my door.
Neither option looking good right now. Just sucks all way around.
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I'm happy with F39 bios. I say if it ain't broke, don't fix it - especially considering what that guy went through after going to f40. No thanks.
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You wouldn't happen to has a USB floppy drive laying around would you?
I'm working on a method to possibly recover from BIOS failure. I'm trying to narrow down if the HDX uses phoenix BIOS. If so, then it might be possible. I downloaded the f.40 BIOS from HP and took a look inside using winrar. There is a BIOS file named in the NV directory called ROM.bin. It's precisely 1MB - the size of the BIOS flash ROM. Would need to get that file to a floppy disk and have the HDX enter BIOS recovery mode the way a tech would.
Entering that mode would likely be holding down the FN+B keys while powering on and holding those keys down until the flooppy started booting. Then it should load in the ROM file into the BIOS. After about 5 mins, computer should reboot with a properly flashed unit.
This is likely how HP would do it since the Flash Rom chip is soldered to the mobo.
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No, I dont unfortunately. Have a flash jump drive if that helps. Hell If you think this will work, I will buy a damm drive from Best Buy here local. You want my telephone number ? I will PM it to if ya want. The system I am on now has a floppy, so transfering it would be easy enough (just would need to buy some floppies)
Just checked with the Best Buy here, they have a usb floppy drive, no floppy disks though..I MAY have one those laying around somwhere...
Ya dont think they would go off a CD or Flash drive ?
Hell Yea, found a floppy and can check it with the system I am on now (work laptop has a plug in (non usb go figure) floppy drive)
OK...woot, formated and saved a file on it...looks I have 1 working floppy...and to think I remember installing windows 3.11 with these things....
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I'm scrapping the floppy method and working on the bootable CD/DVD method. I've got some elements together and should post something in about an hour or two. Just looking for a DOS based Phoenix flash program.
HP has been using Phoenix BIOS for a while across the board, so I will assume in the absence of verifiable fact that the HDX has Phoenix BIOS. The boot block wouldn't be affected if it's not Phoenix. It simply won't flash if the wrong flash software is used.
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OK just to let ya know I have a floppy here and can run to Best Buy to get usb floppy drive if needed.
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There is still the issue of will it boot off a CDROM with a dead bios ?
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Yeah, you're right. Let's keep it simple. You're going to need a USB floppy drive and a good floppy disk. I wanted to scrap it because not everyone has a USB floppy but has a CD ROM.
I'll work on the CD ROM thing later. Right now, it's back to floppy method.
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I'm with you in "if it's not broke." But wasn't the recommended update of two weeks ago to fix a security issue?
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OK Heading to best buy to get floppy drive...BTW I have exactly ONE floppy -
For WWOODS:
Here we go....
I packaged everything into a Zip file. Download here from Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TTXTNFXQ
I included a renamed BIOS file (BIOS.WPH). It's F.39 for Nvidia based systems. It'll write it to floppy doing the following...
Instructions:
Extract the BIOS_Recovery_Crisis_Disk.zip you downloaded from MegaUpload.
1. Run 'WinCRIS.EXE' in Windows (Xp/Vista).
2. Select 'Create MINIDOS Crisis Disk' in the Disk Option
3. Press 'Start' button.
4. When Format Disk Complete diaglog appear, press 'OK'
5. Press 'Close' button in Format Floppy diaglog.
6. Press 'OK' when the crisis diskette has been created.
Now for the trial and error part...
1. Unplug power.
2. Detach the battery. (Leave it out the entire time.)
3. Plug in USB floppy drive.
4. Insert floppy disk in drive.
5. Plug on the power cord only. Omit the battery. DO NOT HIT POWER YET!
6. Hold down one of the following key combinations - do not let up on them until instructed to do so. (This is the trial and error part to attempt to enter BIOS recovery mode.)
(FN) (B)
*** Omit brackets, they only represent what keys to press. ***
Now press power - while still holding keys. There might be a beep or something. Dunno. Fan should be on high. But floppy light should come on. Once the floppy light is flashing indicating disk access, you can let up on the Keys. Leave things alone for about five mins (about the same time it took you to flash the BIOS when you did it in windows). System should reboot when it's done. And hopefully, you've back in business.
If that key combo didn't produce the desired result of floppy drive engagement, then try one of the following:
(Windows key) (B)
(Windows key) (R)
(FN) (R)
(FN) (ESC)
(Windows Key) (ESC)
Note also: if a key combo doesn't work and you can't power down to try again, simply pull the power cord out.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Best I could come up with at the moment. It may be the case that the HDX's boot block is locked out from the keyboard prompting method and requires physically connecting jumpers to two pins on the Flash ROM itself to enter recovery mode. -
Trying now, one thing I noticed is the CDROM makeing noise when I do this, like its seeking......ya think its set up to access the cdrom ?
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OK with the WIN + B keys, I get floppy access for a min, then nothing......it seems to be trying to access the cdrom....gonna make a bootable CDROM out of the floppy.... -
Might need a different flash software. Looking for a different version...
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CD ROM method might not work since I believe the boot block is looking for drive A by default for a ROM.
Now when you said that the floppy was working for a minute, did you mean a proverbial minute or 60secs? If the latter, it might stop working for a while while it zeroes out the ROM. Then when it finishes zeroing out the ROM, which might take a while in this mode, it will flash the new one.
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Found a newer version of Phlash16, its 1.6.5.2 dated same thing....sees drive, accesses it, then nothing. no data access or anything
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Proverbial miniute....as in maby 5 seconds at most, kinda like when ya boot it sees the CDROM for a few seconds then goes on to boot from the HD. Doesnt seem to be actually reading any data from it, just doin a quick seek to see what hardware is there, but I will give the leave it alone a bit a try
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Anyway...
I found an updated 16bit flasher. dated 2006. I repackaged everything so all you have to do is follow the same instructions as before to make a bootable floppy with f.39.
D/L from MU: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P1536GN5 -
will give this a try
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BTW, it's 1.6.5.4 2006
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Same thing realk short access (5 seconds or so) then nothing
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Beginning to think this is locked, but honestly, would it make sence for them to lock out recovery like this ?
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Its definately a WIN + B key that starts the floppy access...think there is some propiritory program they use ?
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It's possible. That and the possibility that there's an electronic means to enable the mode - like jumping 2 pins on the Flash ROM chip - in addition to keyboard prompting. Though likely it's all software based. Phoenix seems to have done away with the need to access the mode via hardware trick as it was back before 2004. But then again, HP seemed to have locked up everything in the HDX. BIOS, PLL Clock generator, etc.
I'm stumped at the moment. Going to have to regroup to see what I or whomever can come up with tomorrow.
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Much appreicated...
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How is it? Like a DV9700T on crank or what?
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Is the everything so locked uo by HP that it's not possible to clear the bios?
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Ok another shot...
Appears it might be an Award BIOS. (Phoenix makes Award BIOS)
I packaged a zip file with awdflash and the f.39 ROM.bin file.
Download here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JFVG6EGT
On that floppy you made, delete the rom file & phlash.
Copy over the awflash.exe and Rom.bin
Modify the autoexec.bat with the following command lineS:
@ECHO OFF
awdflash Rom.bin /py/sw/f/cc/r
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Thanks my friend.
Actually, as you know the real problem is just keeping the lenses clean, but I've found a few bad batteries in new lots the last couple of years so I tend to check them just in case. All he really needs to do is just clean the lenses and it should work, unless it's really hosed.
BTW, the equipment I was thinking about for SSD development is the Hubble Space Telescope's Solid State Recorder, which replaced the original tape drives during the 2nd Servicing Mission in 1997. While EEPROM's are NV Memory, they're erased by flashing them with UV light. Remember the little glass window on the top of the chip? That's what it was for - to let the UV in. Still, the magnetic data writing process is similar to other NV Memory chips, so maybe its base technology did have some role in the final development of the SSR.
NASA used to annually publish a booklet called "Spinoff Technologies", and it showed all the technologies developed for the Space Program that ultimately were capitalized on by businesses and turned into retail items or other technology that we use today. I've already told you about the Lithium Ion battery program that I was responsible for as part of the development of the Pistol Grip Tool.
For those that don't know about the PGT, it's the tool the Astronaut is holding in my avatar picture. I inspected every single piece used to build those things, among other items, including the LI battery cells used in the battery modules. If you look closely, you might see a strap hanging down from the widened bottom under the handgrip - this is to pull the battery pack out of the unit.
Anyone who wants to look at the different spinoff technologies from the Space Program can go to NASA's spinoff site:
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I haven't been following this one that closely, but there are Security Bulletins with updates listed on all HP System support pages. The problem is that they're all-system bulletins, but the update isn't for all systems. I assisted more than one user on the HP Forums that had updated their system per the Security update, but after reading the notes, it was clear their systems weren't in the affected units listed by HP.
3rd party vendors leave it to the user to determine whether or not any given update, be it driver, software, firmware or BIOS, should be installed The problem with that policy is that the majority of people (and we see it here all the time) will install an update just because it's an update or a new driver revision. However, just because it's a newer revision doesn't necessarily mean it was intended to update your particular system. That's why there's lots of users adding drivers that are "newer" and scratching their heads when they suddenly have problems.
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CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord
There are a lot of factors that affect the WEI. If you want to research it or see what others are doing or to compare notes, go to ShareyourScore.com, which is a site for users wanting to share how they got their WEI numbers. It also has the WEI's for different components and hardware modules. -
Thank you much for your input. What kind of adapter is it and where can I get one? If it were you, will you better off with an express card or an adapter?
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I am unable to play Nim's Island Blue Ray disc on my HDX9494NR. I install WinDVD 9 which support Blu Ray. However, when I pop the disc in, I receive a message stating that "This disc has been coded for region A only and will not play in this machine. Please eject this disc and play on a Region A Player". I try to adjust the Region tab setting from DVD to BD but the region A is grayed out. Am I missing something?
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Hi everyone. I believe this was already answered, but the topic is very large and the search does not find any result:
Where can I find XP drivers for an HP HDX9300?
Or even for generic HDX9000?
I know there is no HP support for Windows XP running on this machine. HP drivers' page offers just QuickLauch, Wireless, Intel Matrix Sotrage and Synaptics TouchPad. As long as I know, the main problem is related to audio driver, which maybe does not work properly under XP. Remote control, fingerprint scanner and TV Tuner seems also to be problems.
I'm using this notebook for a week, and tried to adapt myself to Vista. But I use some apps which not run under a 64-bit enviroment. So, if I could downgrade to XP, it would be perfect.
It seems to be a pity to run a 64-bit savvy machine with a 32-bit OS. I don't know if XP SP3 reaches the same performance Vista 64-bit SP1 gets in HDX 9000 series. There are any bookmarks available?
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The full gamut can be found here: http://www.hpdrivers.mercs.us/
Caveat, no bass with sound in XP. Also a few things won't work in XP - no driver.
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Thank you very much! The site/domain with XP drivers is down. Maybe later. Anyway, a XP VM may be an excellent solution. I'll give it a try.
Another issue: the system produces intense disc read/write noise and remain "initialising" during about 3 minutes after Vista actually opens. QuickTouch buttons and function keys to control brightness are not imediately functional.
Question 1: this is typical from Vista Ultimate 64 or is just caused by bloatware HP pre-installs?
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1. Typical for the default HP install of Vista.
2. 3 of them work in conjunction - quicktouch, Quicklaunch, and quickplay software. Quicktouch and quicklaunch are drivers for the touch panel, while QuickPlay is software that maps some of the button functions. The services associated with this group are not responsible for the buttons but for things like background updates of guide and capture/buffer/playback. -
You can minimize the startup lag by performing a couple of "tweaks". None of these impact the reliability of Vista, so feel free to experiment.
Using the Computer Management app:
1) Disable the Windows Search service.
2) Disable Superfetch service.
3) Disable the Scheduled Defrag. This is found under SystemTools/TaskScheduler in Computer Management. Expand TasKSchedulerLibrary->Microsoft->Windows. Look for and highlight DEFRAG. On the right pane, look for Scheduled Defrag. It shows enabled. Right-click and choose DISABLE.
4) Uninstall Google Desktop or any other search helper you have installed. These types of programs work by constantly scanning and indexing your whole drive, slowing things down.
These help your Vista become more immediately available at startup. I know, sometimes you just want to scream with how long it takes Vista to become ready...like WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? The hard drive seems to never stop.
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Its telling me the file I am trying to download is temporiarially unavaliable
Also, I had to create a autoexec.bat as there wasnt one.
It doesnt seem to even attempting to boot off the floppy, its more of like a hardware seek just to identify it...
OK got the file now, gonna try
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Thank you so much for your detailed response, I will get you all this info as soon as I get a chance, I am currently at work (back in Iraq)
For now, I can tell you that I have indeed gotten every single update I could find for every single component for this system, latest BIOS, audio drivers, video drivers, you name it.
I am logging on by typing in my password every time.
As far as the condition in which the notebook is used, these are stable, clean and dry, they are cool controlled environments as well.
With the QL lights going out, I really doubt it's just theater mode, as they come and go at random times regardless of what I am doing.
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Since Virtual PC is emulation, how well do XP apps work...how much of a speed hit is there, and how is compatibility?
Sounds like the best thing to do about updates is to do the Quickplay update (and maybe a video driver) and then just "fogetaboutit."
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****. Sorry, I'm out of ideas. Only speculations left. Probably needs a boot block jumper on the Flash ROM chip itself to enable BIOS recovery mode via keyboard prompting. A number of notebooks are like that. Some of HP's older models were designed that way. BUt you could jump ins on the Parallel port to do it.
Couldn't find anything on Inventec's webiste either. They're the ODM (maker) of the HDX. There's so little info about the HDX.
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There is no meaningful performance hit. XP ran blazingly fast in VMware 6 when I was using it. XP booted in less than 30 Secs.
Yeah, can't really argue with that. You can go to town with video drivers. There's always system restore when things go FUBAR.
I just really feel awful about what's happened to two of our members bricking their computers with a BIOS upgrade. It really bothers me. -
This thing has a parralell port ? I am willing to try that....Yea been reading a lot about block jumpers, just doesnt make sence why HP would force their techs to open the system to reepair the BIOS. I read a lot about the block jumping the parralell ports, but dammed if I can find a parralell port on this.
I think I am just fscked over right now....basically comes down to Best Buy (who I talked to yesterday, and go figure, THEY ship it off to be repaired and takes 3-4 weeks and risk a reimbursement asnd I know it aint gonna be cheap, or wait for HP) Either way sucks as this is fairly important to my work. Granted I have this system here I am typing on, but its a painfull 15.4 screen.
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So in the odd chance....whats is the possibility that the boot area of the BIOS has been set to access via a bootable thumb drive. Just a shot in the dark here, but with floppies becomming dead issues, and almost all modern systems comming witrh a USB port, would it make sence that modern BIOS's are meant to recover via thumb drive ?
Oh the irony, if this were a AIX P series system I could have this back in about 30 mins. -
You could try that. Here's a link to HP USB FLASH DRIVE Boot utility:
http://h20000.www2hp.com/bizsupport...ion.jsp?lang=en&cc=US&swItem=MTX-UNITY-I23839
It'll set up the USB Flash drive to be bootable.
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Ok that lkink isnt opening to a utility to make a flash bootable, but I did get ahold of one.
*HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*
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