*HP HDX18 Owners Lounge*

I had the same feeling about the display, until I tweaked the settings in the nVidia control panel. My settings are 42,19,60,none,41. I agree that the color management file didn't seem to do anything. Not sure if it's supposed to change the way things look on the screen or just for screen to printer operations...maybe the OP could elaborate.

In any case, try the settings above and see if you like your screen more. I like mine more after tweaking them.

 

Cool! Glad to hear it's fixed. Unless you are of the cute, female persuasion, let's stick with a handshake!

 

The .icm file I uploaded should change your color, it should be very obvious. I can only surmise it is not being loaded by your computer. Did you set it as 'default profile'? If it still doesn't change when you do set it, reboot and see if it loads.

Edit: Ok, it seems it's not loading the corrected profile if the above doesn't work (I don't know because I have my calibrator program load it since I have the software/hardware installed).

Try this program. Put it in your startup menu, or click on it or creat short cut and click on it, it should be almost night and day difference. Again, someone reupload this since rapidshare is only allowing 10 downloads.

http://rapidshare.com/files/177673134/CalibrationLoader.exe.html

Note: if you use this program to load the calibrated profile in the startup menu, it will load during startup. However, if you go on standby or your display turns off, the color becomes uncalibrated again. So you have to manually click on the program to load it again. Creat a shortcut so you can click on it when you need to reload it.

 

I must be missing something, because the "CalibrationLoader" still does not do anything to the desktop. I reset the color settings in the NVidia CP to default. Double Clicked the Calibration Loader program, gave it the admin go, and saw no difference.

Prior to this, I had set my settings to 45/0/60/0/43, which wasn't that bad. I then tried the suggested 42/19/60/0/41 which was very close.

However, both of these settings appear to create an "unreal" look to the colors (I have a landscape jpg I'm using as a desktop.

all in all, this video deal is most disappointing. Then, I still have a real crappy audio sound when I play anything. It sounds almost "transistor radio" like.

The computer part of this machine is fast and sweet. The A/V part is very disappointing - at least so far.

 

Did you select my .icm as the default profile under display properties's color management? I'll wait for someone else to post a result.

 

Is anyone here taking temps of the QX9300 on the HDX18 experimenting with undervolting? I wrote a post earlier today:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4326429&postcount=2993

...which asked if anyone had tried doing that, and what their results were. I thought it would maybe work especially well with the extreme quad, since it probably consumes more power (produces more heat, has a shorter battery life) under power than the dual core models and perhaps as an "extreme" might even take better to extreme undervolting as "extreme" processors may have better quality control/handle stresses from undervolting better.

Thanks!

 

I deleted the two ICM files offered here from the "available profiles". I then reinstalled yours, made it the default, and ran the Calibration Loader. The screen did indeed change. It looked better, but still not great.

I'm reverting to the following settings: 42/19/60/0/41

 

having followed the instructions in the undervolting thread, it doesn't look like it works well on the HDX18t. RMClock does not show the correct voltages for the multipliers. They all show 1.350, and that (according to CPU-Z) is not the current voltage. Plus, the maximum multiplier is 9.5, and RMClock doesn't seem to work with .5 multipliers.

I gave up.

 

Wow. Well, that's almost a deal-breaker. Not that I'm still not sold overall on the machine (and this forum is helping sell me on it, with all of the bugs the machine seems to maybe have, the sense of support I get from reading this thread and the board overall is very, very encouraging). The HDX18 looks like a great deal for my purposes, but I really want to make the battery last reliably longer than two to 2 1/2 hours, which it sounds like it might not with the quad, especially if the higher heat requires the fan to run continuously, etc.

I have heard of RMClock having some issues with processors that have half-multipliers, but in part since I have yet to learn hands-on with the program I don't really understand what the problem is. I thought it meant that if RMClock is running I wouldn't be able to get the processor to run quite at full speed if desired, but I thought (at least on dual core models) that undervolting was still possible with RMClock. Maybe it is possible to use it with dual cores but not the QX9300? Any other comments from other folks?

RMClock aside, have you (lancorp, that is, or anyone) experimented with whatever speedstep utility might come with the HDX18 to underclock and reduce power consumption? I suppose there's some sort of 'balanced' setting and a 'high performance' setting, what is the 'max battery life' or whatever setting like? I'm not so much interested in some absolute measurement of CPU voltage reduction or temp reduction (which some posts recently seem to explore), I'm wondering what real effect it might have on battery life when, say, the CPU is set to conserve power as much as possible. I think it would be very easy to measure, just run one of those benchmarking/CPU workout programs like prime95 and time how long it takes for the computer to go automatically into hibernation or otherwise shut down.


If I could be sure of significant cooling and power reduction through a native HDX18/Vista utility I'd go with that for now, I suppose someone is working on RMClock or something similar to better control the processor's voltages and power consumption, and I'd pick up on it sometime.

 

does HP offer a 12 cell battery option for the HDX. Also, if it supports up to 8gb how come they dont offer the option?

 

yes, I was a bit excited about the idea of lowering the voltages and thus, the temps, while keeping performance as-is, but for me, as a noob with this type of thing, I could not make it work.

Supposedly, after clicking here and there in RMClock, the stock voltage levels are supposed to show up for each multipler, but instead, they all show 1.350V. I can watch with CPU-Z as the voltage fluctuates when the processor multiplier changes due to CPU usage. I could try manually changing the x6 to something lower than 1.213V (the system default for x6 multiplier @1.53Ghz lower power mode), but then the x9.5 is a problem because RMClock only works with WHOLE multipliers.

Maybe someone else could take a shot at it. Also, whenever I closed RMClock, it would not close. I had to kill the process.

In any case, the Vista power schemes seem to do a good job (at least if the room temp is cool) . On power-saver, I get 36C-40C ranges on idle. Power-saver scheme, though, I think never gets your CPU up to 100%, even if stressed. You'd need balanced mode for that. There is an HP recommended scheme, but since I reformatted my HDX18t, I don't know how to get that back. Any ideas?

 

I wish. It would prop up the back the HDX18t (like the 12 cell for the HDX16t) and allow better cooling by a few degrees.

Someday?

 

With many thanks to those that posted the 30% HP coupon code NB4355 on here I'm going to be an official member of the HDX 18t crew. I just placed my order earlier today. I did order the quad and the twin 320 GB 7200 drives with 4 GB of ram. I also ordered a HDX 16t but with 2GB and a 320 GB 5400 drive. When I upgrade the quad to an SSD and 8GB of ram in the future I will put one drive in it and a 2GB Dimm. Now I hope and pray all is well on delivery and once in hand. Thanks to all of the members here for great information.

 

I couldn't download, limit reached. This would help me, I can't see well, one reason I got this laptop. I've increased the dpi and, unfortunately, had to decrease the screen resolution to see larger fonts everywhere. Would like to be able to put the screen resolution back to what it was. Just increasing dpi didn't increase it everywhere. Any advice? If there is any other way to download this file, hope someone will post it. Or perhaps you could pm me and email it?

 

Your best bet would have been a big screen with a lower resolution, something like 1440x900. Some toshiba qosmio monsters have these...

 

Congrats to you!

I saw that code last night, used it to price a computer, and was setting up to buy it today or tomorrow.

Now, the coupon code doesn't work any more.

I guess it will come around again at some point.

Maybe it'll turn out for the best somehow.

 

Hmm...I just noticed you're using Vista 64-bit. Here's what RMClock's product page says about operating systems:

http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml

32-bit Windows NT class OS version 5.0 and higher: Windows 2000, XP, 2003 Server and Vista platforms. No support for Win9x OS family is ever planned.
Support for Windows XP x64 platforms is available since version 1.7 (x64 driver included into the package).
NOTE: Support for 64-bit Windows Vista is currently limited due to the kernel mode driver digital signature requirement of that OS (workarounds are necessary).
NOTE: You must have Administrative rights to install and run this utility.​

...so that might be your problem (and it will be my problem as well because I want to get 64-bit Vista Premium with my system).

Searching their forum I found the following (supposed) workaround in this message thread:

http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:942

Look at the post from Dmitri Besedin at February 14, 2007 10:29 PM:

So you might want to read the whole thread carefully (maybe search for some others as well) and proceed at your own risk in trying. I don't know what Vista's UAC is or what the consequences are of disabling it, but I imagine that if I am sure (or are willing to assume) I'm not loading programs or drivers without my knowledge (and have adequate antivirus, etc programs installed) it might be acceptably "safe" to disable UAC. But not knowing what it is, I can't of course say for sure.

Some other Vista 64 workarounds are described in this thread:

http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:600

It appears that Vista 32 bit versions are ok with running RMclock, at least it's 'officially' supported by the program. But even still I did find a number of posts from people having some difficulties with Vista in 32 bit editions, but it seemed to be more an issue of learning to work with Vista than any inherent incompatibility. Except for this issue I think I'll be happy with Vista 64, and I'm prepared to use dosbox or some similar virtualization program as necessary to run my old DOS and legacy applications. I should look further into this though as I really need to run legacy applications efficiently, and I won't plan on changing easily, at least between 64 and 32 bit versions. I've heard changing between 64-bit and 32-bit Vista editions is difficult and sometimes buggy. At least though I won't have the issue with the lack of 64-bit hardware drivers developed at least until recently for many aftermarket internal hardware devices (especially older devices), as that's not an issue with a laptop where I won't be adding or upgrading graphics cards, RAID cards, etc, from outside vendors like I might with a desktop.

Well, I don't know how to get back HP schemes (though there may be some way to pull it off of a recover disk), but can you create your own power scheme? It would make sense that there would be some way to do that, though it may not be obvious because newbies like me might do something that might impair the computer's operation and cause a service call (which could cost HP), so the ability to modify something like that might be buried or require some powertoy-like utility.

 

Anyone have xp working well?

I have major problem with the video driver and then the optical drive

Ubuntu working geat but I having trouble with the optical drive also.

Anyone have these working and might be able to suggest corrective fix(s)?

 

a couple members here have attempted XP and it's just not worth the effort it seems....

 

Update: I am finding that the soft-touch controls for Volume/Bass/Treble will not display on the screen when you are in certain applications (usually ones that I have installed), but they seem to work fine on applications that came with the laptop. I have a program that I use called 'SlowGold' which is used to slow down music so I can learn it (I'm a guitarist). When this program is running, the soft-touch controls will not appear on the screen. When I close the program, everything works fine again.

 

This probably isn't the right forum to use, but maybe someone can direct to the right place (be nice).

I am running XP Pro on my desktop, but recently got a virus which corrupted the operating system. I can't find my XP CDROM, so I need to buy a new copy of XP Pro (or Home?). On the internet, there is a huge range in the prices on XP Pro OS. Some with SP2, some with SP3, some that are OEM, some that are retail....blah blah blah. Any advice?

 

For those interested, here are the "Windows Experience" scores from my HDX 18:

Processor: 5.9
RAM: 5.9
Graphics: 4.8
Gaming Graphics: 5.3
Primary HD: 5.6

Overall: 4.8

What's interesting is that before I did the Clean Vista Install, the Graphics score was 5.0, which put the overall score at 5.0. Strange, unless some HP hidden deal boosts the graphics speed.

I still haven't installed the QuickPlay stuff. I did install PowerDVD w/AnyDVD and it seems to work out fine.

I'm still THRILLED with the speed of this thing. Especially how it sits at idle with virtually 0% CPU use. My dv9000 will sit around 40-50% CPU use with nothing being done by me! What a difference.

One other thing: My dv9000 ran A LOT hotter than this thing does. Very pleasant surprise.

 

Laura thank you.

I'm not surprised the coupon is gone already.

Out of curiosity where did you see the coupon first?

Good luck on your hunt too.

 

What version of Ubuntu are you using?

 

SSC,

OK, I was able to get RMClock to allow me to change the voltage levels, and have this to report--I can run the HDX18t with QX9300 stable at 1.1625 (lowest possible voltage RMCLOCK allows) at any speed. Normally, that voltage is used for the x6 multiplier (1.53Ghz). Since I cannot choose the a 9.5x multiplier in RMClock, I set the 9x and 10x multiplers for 1.1625.

When set for the "maximal performance" profile in RMClock, and with CPU-Z and HWMONITOR running to allow me to monitor voltage and speed plus coretemps, I can verify that at 2.53Ghz constant, the QX9300 runs fine at 1.1625V. Stressing the CPU with PRIME95, though, at various voltage steps between 1.350 and 1.1625, there isn't much of a temperature difference. I pretty much maxed out at 80C no matter what the voltage was.

Unfortunately, I couldn't get RMClock to save my profile settings (due to the fact that when I exit RMClock, the app freezes and I have to kill the process?), means it doesn't hold my voltages or profiles, so is kind of useless at this point.

I do like that I can run my QX9300 at a constant 2.53Ghz at the same voltage used for the lower 1.52Ghz idle frequency, and probably save some battery, but since I cannt get my settings to save, it's all for naught.

So, in summary, QX9300 runs at 1.1625V stable @ 2.53Ghz constant, but temps are not really any lower when stressed.

 

Lancorp, if you set the multiplier at 6x, you'll see that it never is at 6x when you run Prime. Meaning, the qx9300 is not recognized by the program. So your lowering the voltages... it's just an illusion, it's not doing anything, that's why you can run it at any of the voltages.

I wanted to ask you, do you notice occasional pop sounds from your laptop with the clean install?

 

No more Toshibas! I have a 17", forget the resolution, can't check it, it is back at Toshiba Repair Depot for the second time. First time I sent a four page memo with pictures of fatal machine errors. They sent it back saying bad Vista install. Immediately got more fatal machine checks and BSOD. I spoke to an engineer at the depot, pointing out that these mean hardware failures and I had downloaded from AMD their MCAT with puts Event Errors into English (more or less) which pointed to errors in both cores and the cache. He asked if I'd leave it installed on the machine. Guess they don't have access to it at work to troubleshoot their machines with AMD processors. Put a file on the desktop with the program and sent another four page memo along with the first. Called today, they're putting in a new CPU.

I did manage to download the calibration program, clicked it to run twice and nothing seemed to happen, put it in start up file. Have absolutely no idea how to find your .icm file, the file I downloaded was an .exe and if it loaded an .icm I don't know where I'd find it or its name, I am a total dunce in this, as in many areas. Not only that, I now have to live with a lesion on the brainstem which gives me problems in many areas. The old brain "ain't" what it used to be.

So extremely detailed help for a dummy about the calibration program would be helpful.

I'm also open to non-Toshiba alternatives no more expensive than this one in case I return this. I love how fast it is, love the keyboard, like the display because even with the reduced display at 1360 x 768 it looks great. I'd like it a tad higher than the native resolution but can't fine tune it to that.

HP's website for this laptop under downloads has a graphics driver 7.15.11.7904 A dated 11/07/08 says it is for the NVIDIA GeForce NB9P-GS Video C but the one I have, is 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT. Are these the same, they don't seem to be. Maybe they've changed their offerings, that was my only choice.

Foxfire won't start at all, Internet Explorer starts then stops and then restarts, WinMail has done the same thing and so has my jukebox, the browser for my camera downloads, my Logitech mouse. Already event errors refer to "This could be related to a problem in a network device and will cause degraded throughput," "this can occur...because of data loss on the hard drive" and so on. Planning to call HP tomorrow if I am up to at after talking to Toshiba about my missing SD card they were going to replace and now say they returned but did not.

 

I'll answer here because it's something someone else may benefit from, and I'd like to post a public answer in case you're not getting helpful private messages. My first suggestion would be to contact the sales or support department of the computer manufacturer if your computer came with a OEM (original equipment manufacturer)-installed copy of XP Pro or if a "recovery disk" is available. You may need drivers and other things that the OEM installation and recovery disk would have, and while if it also had 'bloatware' (little-used, often trial versions of programs, or fancy ads for internet services, etc) in the OEM install you may end up deleting a lot of unused stuff you'll probably be better off going that route than starting with a 'full' install of XP Pro and juggling CDs or USB drives with drivers (hopefully the right drivers) while you get install XP. A recovery disk or OEM-supplied disk may also have menus, help files, and other things that would make restoring your XP installation go easier.

You probably should do a full install from a blank hard drive, anyway, which will require you also install all necessary drivers unless you have data which you really don't want to (or can't) backup and save before reformatting/erasing the drive contents. If an OEM or recovery disk is offered for sale it will also probably be cheaper than buying a new copy of XP Pro or home, especially if you start from a blank drive and would otherwise need a 'full install' (not an upgrade) version of XP.

If you have a computer that was built by some large manufacturer like HP, Sony, etc, you almost certainly had a OEM install of XP, and a "recovery disk" should be available for purchase. If it's homebuilt and has a license key sticker on it you can ask around for a friend with a full install copy of XP, borrow it, and use your key. If you don't have a key and it was a homebuilt job, then you may have had a pirated copy of XP installed. In that case you will need to buy a copy of XP full install, and I'll just suggest you shop around for it, and stay away from websites that promise it dirt cheap because you may be getting pirated software or maybe nothing at all.

If you need more info, click on my profile to send a private message. Thanks!

 

8.10 intrepid

It is very fast and graphics seem to better then vista

 

Well, not sure I clearly understand what you are saying. I realize that I cannot change the multiplier. But, RMClock seems to allow me to change the voltage at each multiplier step. Since the QX9300 only seems to use x6 and x9.5, those are the only ones that would matter.

Obviously, when running Prime95, the multiplier will be at 9.5x (unless you are on Power Saver, in which case it seems to always be at x6 (1.53Ghz).

Now, it seems opposite of what you say when I can change the voltages in RMClock to any of the choices, and withing a few seconds, CPU-Z shows the same voltages. If nothing is really happening, then why does CPU-Z report the voltage I have chosen?
Also, even though I stated the temps don't change much, they are less by a degree or two as I lower the voltages in RMClock, so something must be happening.

 

I suppose you're referring to (attempting) changing the multiplier in RMClock. Do you know if this problem of the QX9300 not being recognized is something observed because of issues with RMClock on Vista 64 or is it something characteristic of the QX9300? The RMClock manufacturer says it will work with Vista 32, so I suppose that's not the issue. Are you referring to a system with 32 or 64 bit (I suppose) Vista? I am more concerned about the QX9300 though and if it's recognized by RMClock, because of the following:

Wikipedia says the processor family is a "Penryn XE":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...2Penryn_XE.22_.28standard-voltage.2C_45_nm.29

...and RMclock's list of supported processors does not include Penryns at all, it seems:

http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml

...though when I search the forum for "Penryn" I find numerous people who say it does and it's working well for them. I searched for "Penryn XE" and also for QX9300 and found nothing, which may not be surprising as the QX9300 and the Penryn XE series has not been out long and is rather pricey. There was one post on the X9000, which is a two-core Penryn XE (extreme):

http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:1565

...and it seems that while some people can get it to work and others can't, the RMClock reps say it should work as the core 2 family overall is supported. Some people are asking in that thread if RMClock can access higher multipliers and allow for overclocking on computers that otherwise wouldn't allow it, and I haven't seen anyone who has claimed that they could do that at all with RMClock. Since some users (in that thread and elsewhere in the RMClock forums) are talking about "disabling thermal monitors" through settings in RMClock and "registry hacks" I want to be reeeely careful about playing around with this program and voiding my warranty (and possibly frying my computer) if such a thing is possible -- and if it is possible, I don't intend to try it. Ever since I was a kid and playing around disabled the governor on my go-kart's motor (which threw a rod shortly thereafter) I've been reluctant to push anything much beyond the speed that it was designed for.

I will end up posting to other forums specific to RMClock and undervolting, I'm sure, but I thought it worthwhile to pursue here first because I'm getting the quad and some sort of utility like RMclock to reduce heat and lengthen battery life and if I do that at all it will be on the HDX18. Given that HP has been known for opaque arrangements with vendors and proprietary BIOSes and has done something with the BIOS already with the HDX18 and the QX9300 to not allow for overclocking, I wonder if whatever they've done would affect undervolting (and maybe underclocking) as well -- and this seems to be the best forum to explore that -- and I'm sure a lot of other QX9300 users here would love to have some handy way to lower temps, extend battery life, and give up a little speed for that if they could easily switch back to full speed when desired.

Any other ideas for underclocking/undervolting utilities? Anyone else experiment with that on the QX9300/HDX18? Thanks!

 

Hope you get an amazing, perfect HDX!

Thanks for your good wishes for me.

When I'm serious about buying, I search on google pretty frequently. I think I first saw the 30% off on dealigg.

 

Lancorp: If you go through the VID adjustment for all the multiplies from the max and then then next one down etc.... the instruction is that you uncheck the top most multiplier to adjust the second from top multiplier, prime that and set your stable voltage, and repeat for each lower multiplier. You get this right.

Well, if you only check off the 6x multiplier, as soon as you prime it, it shoots back up to 9x all my itself. So, the question should be.... how are you ever going to adjust any voltage lower than 9x? You can't. Which again tells you, RMClock is not compatible with the QX9300. Also, did you manage to set the 'Advance CPU Setting' to 'mobile? You can't... cause... it's not working for us.

 

RMclock works with it but you need to keep the CPU type in dekstop.

 

Put it another way, set RMClock at 6x and up the voltage to 1.35. It will not heat up.

The reason youre Prime is a few degrees cooler running is because it is at 9x vs 9.5x.

Anyway, we're troubleshooting something that's not working right.. wast of time.

 

I'm probably not making this clear, and it's not as hard as it sounds. I'm NOT trying to change the multiplier and I'm NOT only checking the 6x multiplier option in RMClock. I've checked all the multiplier options. I was stating that the QX9300, in the HDX18t, seems to only use 6x and 9.5x (according to CPU-Z), so those are the only multipliers I changed the voltages for.

As such, when I'm not running PRIME, the multiplier is almost always on 6x (and hence the system at 1.52Ghz). When stressed, the multiplier goes to 9.5x (and occasionally 10x for a 2.66Ghz clock) for 2.53Ghz.

So, I can make the system use 6x by idling it, or 9.5x by stressing it. When I adjust those two multipliers voltages in RMClock, they do change in CPU-Z. The evidence is there. The temps show signs of changing (just not to the extremes I had hoped). I don't know how else to prove that the voltages do change! How would CPU-Z show the correct (changed) voltage if it really wasn't changing?

Again, I'm NOT changing the multiplier. Vista or the BIOS does that automatically. When idle, I'm at 6x. When stressed, it goes to 9.5 automatically. Those are the only two it seems to use, so I do not mess with any other ones in RMCLOCK.

I hope that explains it better.

 

Thanks to all who have commented...would anyone care to weigh in on what they've found to reduce power consumption the most with the QX9300? Has anyone gotten ANY third-party utility (not already a part of Vista or an included HP utility) to definitely reduce the QX9300's voltage and/or clock speed (and presumably power and temps) more than the Vista power management tools allow?

I want to get the best answer for this before I buy my HDX18 in whatever OS configuration, if I get the quad, as I don't know if I can really expect a third-party software developer to put a lot of time accomodating quirks in the QX9300 -- it's pricey and though popular with enthusiasts I don't know if there will be enough of a user base developed for a specialized tool like RMClock or whatever to support it, and Intel (or HP) may soon replace it with a slightly faster chip that won't have the issues that the QX9300 may have with third party clock/voltage utilities. I'm not saying the QX9300 is not worth paying more for even if production stops on it and other Penryn XE's in the near future when a faster/cheaper chip is released, just that if it has some unusual compatibility issues I don't think I can expect fixes as quickly (if at all) as I would something characteristic of a more common chip/family, or the Vista OS itself (or even the HDX18's BIOS or chipset), for example, which has an large user base and will be growing for the foreseeable future.

Since so many people have gotten the quad with their HDX18 and there are numerous issues unique to HP's implementation -- and power consumption/heat/battery life with the QX9300 is an issue in the HDX18, as it is with quads in laptops in any case -- I thought that pursuing this for the best answer at this time would also be helpful to a lot of users here.

The best answer besides powering down or working in a refrigerator, that is.

(That was the "cool" smiley, I couldn't find a "cold" one)

 

Not true, according to CPU-Z. The HDX18t never runs at 9x multiplier according to CPU-Z, only 9.5. 9x would be 2.39Ghz...I never see that odd frequency.

 

SSC, tried to send you a private message, but the error message said: "ssc has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her." I haven't sent a PM before, so maybe there's something about it I don't understand?

 

Sorry to trouble the list with this question, but can private messages be sent on this board? I've (just now) enabled the feature to allow members to send me email messages but I don't see where to choose to send a private message. Tunesmith, could you post where you clicked to do so, and try again to send me a message?

 

Thanks.
What issues are you having with your hardware?
I have an HDX 18 on its way and plan on using Ubuntu 8.10 too.

 

Me too
I hope you also get an amazing deal and perfect HDX.
Thanks again.

 

That's weird. I ordered a recovery disc with my HDX 18t. When I got it I replaced the 2 hard drives with 2 320GB 7200rpm hard drives. Also replaced the 3G stock memory with some lighting fast 4G memory from OCZ.

Then I installed Vista on the new hard drive. However before I did all the replacements I booted it up to see if the speakers were working properly since they didn't work at all the first time I ordered the 18t. While I was testing them out I checked out the WEI Score just to see if it would be the same after all the replacements and the reinstalling of Vista.

Anyways after all the replacing my WEI Score was EXACTLY the same.

• Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz 5.6
• Memory: (RAM) 4.00 GB 5.9
• Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 5.0
• Gaming Graphics: 2302 MB Total available graphics memory 5.3
• Primary Hard Disk: 240GB Free (288GB Total) 5.9

I was hoping the graphics would be a bit higher but still 5.0 is really good right? What processor did you get btw?

Last but not least who has ordered an HDX 18t recently? I hope you all get excellent laptops. Lets get this group even bigger!

 

I was refering to you saying that under RMclock undervolt you did, you got a lower temp at full multiplier. It is doing this becuase you are at 9x, not 9.5x.

Just try putting RMclock at 6x and up the voltage to 1.35. Let it idle and see if the temps go up. It doesn't, and why not?

 

exe, I don't really understand all this talk about multipliers and such, and I don't want to take up space asking people to explain this to me, it's something I'll deal with when I get my HDX18 (whether or not I get the quad as well). But if as you say RMClock doesn't work -- or doesn't work right -- in this application, do you think it's something inherent in the QX9300, the Vista 64 / RMclock combination, or both? What do you think would best (and most greatly) reduce voltage/clock speed/CPU power consumption in the QX9300 on the HDX18?

 

AFAIK RMclock doesn't work with the QX9300. The only other program I know of to underclock is NHC, and that doesn't work with 64bit, and I don't know what other limitations that program has, and I'm not going to look into it because I am not going off Vista64. So that is all I know.

If you're so worried about battery life...the very simple solution is to go get another battery. And if that's not good enough, you can buy a big slab of a battery designed by 3rd parties that plug into your power recepticle.

 

Was doing the same thing. There will be a better deal to roll around, there always is.

 

But, it's NOT at 9x!!!!!!! I can't be more clear. The HDX18t doesn't DO 9X, it does 9.5x!!!

Are you saying CPU-Z is reporting the wrong info? It's been the de-facto standard for awhile...I trust what it says. It says my multiplier is 9.5x at full speed and the voltage is 1.1625V at full speed 9.5x.

Why would it say that if it wasn't actually changing? I keep asking you to answer that question, and you don't. I change the voltage in RMClock, and CPU-Z, an entirely different program, shows CORRECTLY, the change I made in RMClock. How can that NOT be working?

Even without RMClock, on a fresh startup, CPU-Z shows my voltage at three different voltages--1.163, 1.238, and 1.350V, all at 6x. With Vista set at High Performance scheme, the voltage shown in CPU-Z is mostly 1.350V @ 6x when idle. When I adjust the power scheme to Power Saver, the voltage immediately drops to 1.163V at 6x. I'mm pretty sure CPU-Z is showing me the correct info.

In any case, what matters is that even without RMClock, I can make the QX9300 voltages change using the Vista power schemes. Even with a change in voltage between the extreme's (1.350v to 1.163) there is only a degree or two difference in core temps at idle. So, ultimately, rather extreme changes in the core voltages don't affect idle temps much. Maybe they would given more usage than just idle (0-3%) cpu??

 

With Ubuntu I'm unable to play music cds, DVD and blu-ray. It reconizes the drive, have not tried burning or reading a data cd.

All else work great: silly volume and base buttons, wireless, video card plays very well

my primary focus has been getting XP to work. The graphics refresh rate is bad, video card not playing nice, yet!

 

OK, here's the last I'm going to test this. And this proves that RMClock DOES change the QX9300 voltages.

This is the scenario--PRIME95 running constantly. Vista set to Power Saver, so the multiplier is locked at 6x. With PRIME95 running, CPU is at 1.595Ghz, 6x, 1.163V:



Next, I started up RMClock and changed the 6x multiplier voltage to the highest it would allow--1.2375V. It does not allow 1.350 at 6x. Instantly, CPU-Z registered the change in voltage, and almost instantly HWMONITOR shows a marked INCREASE in temperature!



I let that run for about 5 minutes. During that time, everything leveled out and then I set RMClock back to 1.1625V for the 6x multiplier and INSTANTLY the temps started falling again, and CPU-Z showed the lower voltage:



A picture is worth a thousand words, and I'm sure I've written at least that many words trying to prove that RMClock does change the voltages. These shots should prove that it indeed does. Now, at idle, there is very little temp change, but obviously, at high CPU utilization, even a modest change in voltages changes the temps by at least 5 degrees.