HP Lineup Refresh

Ok so here is the news, as far as I know it. The dm4 is green lit, its going to have AMD and Intel CPUs, and ATi hybrid/switchable graphics (possibly the intel models could have optional Nvidia graphics not sure). The dv5 is coming back (in a much different, new style form), and the dv6 and dv7 will be overhauled so that styling wise they are somewhere between the new G62 and the Envy (dv5,6,7 will be closer to the G62 but with an imitation Envy one piece "clickpad" that in my opinion is not very good). The big news is that there will be AMD quad core CPUs available in HP notebooks for the first time, AND some models of the dv6 will feature touch screens. They are also going to have different color schemes and some of them will feature a metallic shell. Also they now will have island style keyboards, like the dm3s. Look for these around April or May.

 

Thanks for the heads up. Glad that they are bringing back the DV5.

 

DM4 sounds very enticing. A slightly bigger and more powerful DM3? I'd be all over that.

But what's green lit...as in it's ready to go?

Sadly, I bet HP continues their morbid fear of backlit keyboards.

 

No more espresso finish, do I dare hope?

 

Can't wait to see what the dm4 brings to the table.
An icore dm3 and maybe newer nvidia graphics would be nice too.

 

Say it ain't so.

 

@bobthenailer: Where did you get this information? It'd be helpful if a source is stated.

 

I wish I could tell you guys but then I'd have to...........................
Anyways, more news, the dm4 WILL HAVE AN OPTICAL DRIVE. I dunno about an icore but maybe. Now as far as Espresso, yep its gone, so is imprint for the most part, just mono-color reds whites and blues (look at the color scheme for the Mini 210s to get the idea), also SOME of the dv6s, maybe other models as well will feature aluminum top covers (as in the part that goes around the keyboard and clickpad) and lids (as in cover for behind the LCD). The dm4s will make use of structural aluminum or magnesium, just like the dm3s. I would be surprised if they keep the dv4 after this, but who knows. I wish I could give you something more than a "just take my word for it" but sadly I can't. I had some info of this type the last time this sort of thing happened (way back in the great HP release of summer 2008). I will just say that I am confident about the accuracy of this information and leave it at that.

Edit: also, the backlit keyboard remains an unknown quantity

 

Sounds like they want to improve their lineups after Acer's moves to get to the top spot.

I just wish they have some machines with Windows 7 Professional 64-bit with good ATI DirectX 11 GPUs with the G62t design.

The bronze and silver designs are very attractive.

 

DM4 will have an optical drive? Well, that sucks. Very disappointed in that, they could have put in a giant battery or a sick cooling system like in the Envy 15. They better have i-series down the line, getting sick of seeing C2D and 105m in all of these machines.

Man, bribe the fools with a bucket of chicken, tell them to put in backlit keyboards + USB 3.0.

I really hope the DV4 dies. I hate the DV2500 and it's clone, the DV4. I had a DV2000 and a DV2500 die on me. I find 14in to be perfect so...I'm banking on a DM4 with I5/SSD/high-res or an Envy 14.

 

I hope they improve the cooling. There is no reason that a dual core CPU at 800mhz at 16ºC ambient temperature needs to have the fan working.

 

bobthenailer, considering that you have a good source on your side, have you heard anything about the Envy 14 which was rumored a long time ago and some info leaked on a support page?

Other than that, would you mind at least giving a hint where did you get all this info from?

 

Do you know if they're going to keep calling them the dv6 and dv7 when they're released, or maybe throw a new letter on the end there to indicate them as being different?

It's strange the dv5 would be coming back, now they'll have an 11", 12", 13", 14", 15", 16", 17" and 18" laptop offerings. You can't complain they didn't have a size that suited you!

 

well, I have nothing of any value on the envy. However, from what I already know, I am thinking your going to see a revamp of some sort. The Envy 14 is probably the biggest thing that would keep the dm4 from having an icore in it. Some of the other high end dv6s and dv7s are very similar to the Envy anyways, so I think they will do something (newer graphics ect ect) the big difference is that the Envy has its structural metal which the dvs won't have. The high end ones will also have hybrid graphics, so I think at least if they do anything to the Envy 15 it will be a better graphics chip. There is also rumors of an Envy 17, which again I do not have much on. Wait and see is the best I can tell you guys. Oh and Andrew, yes, to the best of my knowledge they will still be dv5s,6s,7s and so on.

 

mini 311

Will it be refreshed with ion 2 and/or dual core atom?

 

^ Good question.

I was actually lookin at a 311 for a while.

 

Will there be an HP ENVY 17? If so, when?

 

bobthenailer, have you heard anything about displays and their resolution?

 

where is envy 14...........

 

The Envy 14 and Envy 17 are both confirmed, but these models (and their details) have not been released to the public just yet.

See HP Support Assistant CVA documentation, SP47326 -- ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp47001-47500/sp47326.cva

Code:

SysId102=0x1436
SysName102=HP ENVY 14
SysId103=0x1437
SysName103=HP ENVY 14
SysId127=0x144D
SysName127=HP ENVY 17

And, from LightScribe System Software CVA documentation, SP47798 -- ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp47501-48000/sp47798.cva

Code:

SysId26=0x148B
SysName26=HP Pavilion dm1
SysId97=0x1469
SysName97=HP Pavilion dm4
SysId98=0x146A
SysName98=HP Pavilion dm4

 

dm1? Interesting.

 

Source? Kinda pissed about buying a dm3 over a dm4 but still interesting about the future

 

The DM1 was announced long time ago, when the DM3 was announced, but it wasnt released fpr X, Y, Z reason.

 

AFAIK the dm1 is alive and well overseas (europe and asian markets) but was suppressed over here because we got the mini 311 (the dm1 was the same chassis with a board featuring CULV and Intel graphics instead of Atom and Ion)
I have heard absolutely nothing on what the future holds for the 311. This just in on the dm4, it will be available with an icore CPU.

 

The Dm4 is ix based?

 

Is the Envy 14 replacing the Envy 13? HP seems to have paid no attention to this great looking machie that needs some better guts.

 

Well, we have to take into consideration the form factor of the E13. I mean, it is REALLY thin, and cramping inside too much things can overheat a laptop easily...if there is any update it should come with a ULV or LV Arrandale inside...I'm still waiting for it to happen.

Me wishes something that matches the Sony Z in power but its thinner and lighter and has a great screen. If it happens, I change my 15 incher for the smaller one...lol

What do we know of the Envy 14?

 

I have been holding off my Notebook purchase since January waiting for the Sony Z11 and the Acer 3820TG to be released. I'm looking for a 13" with CPU and graphics power for my business. I'm doing my office work on an Acer 1410 and I don't know how much longer I can wait for new models to reach the market.

Couldn't agree more about the Envy 13.

How long before we see specs on the new line? My fingers already miss my old Vostro 1500 which had a wonderful keyboard. My bookeeper, who uses it now, smiles every day.

Any guess on timing?

Bronsky

 

I haven't heard much on this, nor from Intel in some time. I think the ULV i7 are already out, so if there is anything to come should be with these new CPUs.

If anything is to come should be some months after the LV CPUs were announced. According to what I'm reading 1st quarter the UM versions came out...if there is anythign to come, give it a 2 months window perhaps?

 

I'm watching the 3820TG with interest too. Seems like a great thin and light.

 

i´m interested

 

from this thread so far, i guess there's no new 12 or 13 inch laptop coming out soon, huh?

 

The TM2 tablet replaced the DV2 as far as I can see. If you want discrete graphics in a 12 inch subnotebook from HP right now this is the way to go, the available elitebook lineup has two intel igp bearing 12" solutions the 2540p and the 2740p (tablet).

For 13" solutions you have the dm3 consumer series and a business oriented pair of Probooks, the 4310s (available 4330 Radeon graphics) and the slimmer 5310m (intel igp only).

I wouldn't be surprised to see the 13" dm3t recieve a mid year buff to the intel processor lineup, the dm3z AMD variant with the Athlon Neo 335 and Turion Neo 635 options is probably the end of the line in this iteration. I don't think AMD has a roadmap for upgrades of the 'Yukon' platform, so these low tdp units first seen in the DV2 probably are close to eol.

 

There is an update when Llano comes up...and I think there was something in between Congo and Llano...Danube AFAIK...

 

I'd like to have a DV3 with DX11 GPU... How much time have I to wait?

 

All right, it looks like the dv5 is really coming back from the dead -- because there is an entry in the SP47701 CVA documentation pertaining to a dv5 with a system ID that is unlike any of the previous generation dv5 notebooks. In addition, there are entries for the Compaq CQ32 and dm4 as well.

ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp47501-48000/sp47701.cva

Code:

[System Information]
SysId01=0x146B
SysName01=Compaq Presario CQ32
SysId02=0x146C
SysName02=Compaq Presario CQ32
[B]SysId03=0x1435
SysName03=HP Pavilion dv5[/B]
SysId04=0x1433
SysName04=HP Pavilion dv3
SysId05=0x1434
SysName05=HP Pavilion dv3
[B]SysId06=0x1469
SysName06=HP Pavilion dm4
SysId07=0x146A
SysName07=HP Pavilion dm4[/B]

 

Over a year most likely.

 

Hoping to see higher res options again like with previous dv5.

 

oh, by the way they might already be out now or be close to release but there is going to be a full update on the G series, G72 and ? G42 ? along with their Compaq CQ versions. These are all along the same lines as the G62, so think of a G62 but bigger or smaller. Now, as far as HW goes, I have not heard what they are running with, safe to say probably Core i3s and i5s. No news on an AMD variant but there probably will be one.

 

Interesting stuff here.
Any idea on when these updates are gonna hit?
I may have to hold off on buying a dm3t next month.

 

I am also interested in knowing when the refresh will occur. Do you have a date or a week?

 

I think HP officially released the dm4 a few days ago in India.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/241/20100326/1274/ttc-hp-unveils-new-range-of-notebooks.html

Can anyone confirm when the US launch or if there will be one?

 

dm6 is news to me, i can tell you though the dm4 IS USA bound, just don't know when. They also mention the G62 for the indian market there, and that's been available for almost 2 months over here.

 

I am really interested in dm4. If it's as thin as dm3 and has an optical drive, I will be all over it.

 

Any updates?

 

nope, nothing solid on the mini 311 revamp or replacement. I think you could see a CLUV replacement, maybe a dm2 (think of the old dv2 but with newer styling and Intel CULV a la dm3 + some kind of half decent discrete graphics again a lot like the dv2) but who knows.

 

A CULV/Neo replacement for the Mini 311 does seem a likely possibility given that it was the Mini 311 that blocked the release of the HP dm1 in the U.S. (at least I don't remember seeing a dm1 for sale in the U.S.)...and that neither ION2 or Pinetrail are all that significant an improvement.

In fact I read last week that HP might be ditching 10" machines and the Atom for AMD Neo based 11.6" machines....which, who knows, could mean a new HP d v1 model.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/hp-and-dell-said-to-be-investing-less-in-10-inch-netbooks-looki/

 

Considering the Envy 15 was already refreshed 3 months ago, will they refresh it again soon? What's the typical HP release cycle?

 

They have been really churning them out lately. I wouldn't expect to see much for the envy 15 anytime soon. Anyways HP's normal cycle, you have Spring release (actually early in the year) Spring Refresh (actually in late spring early summer) Summer release (actually just in time for back to school) and Summer refresh (fall, christmas rush). Historically, the last time HP thoroughly redesigned most of there notebooks was in summer of 08 (for those of you remember, I was in on that too) and before that it was late 06, I think this time its going to be on a time table similar to summer 08. As others have said though expect to see Envy 17s and maybe 14s being released in the summer. Also as far as I know the dm1 and the mini 311 use the same chassis, they just have different boards (dm1=CULV+intel X4500 iirc, mini 311=Ion) you could see them do something surprising like release a dual core atom, but i think Intel is keeping those out of netbooks for a reason (affraid it might cannibalize CULV sales).

 

ok I just heard something else. Apparently the dv5, dv6 and dv7 are going to feature optional backlit keyboards.