Noticed There wasn't a Owners Lounge Dedicated to the HP Mini 210 or HP Mini 210 HD Series, so here you all go!
Link To Customize your HP Mini 210 Netbook!
Link To Customize your HP Mini 210 HD Netbook!
From what I know, the difference between the two models is that the 210 HD has an HD 720p (1366x768) screen while the normal series has a WSVGA(1024x600) screen.
Coupon For the HP Mini 210 Notebook (Check Back Often or Price Watch it!)
Coupon For the HP Mini 210 HD Notebook (Check Back Often or Price Watch it!)
Heres the HP Mini 210 HD Demo!
Hands on of the Mini 210 at CES
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Unboxing:
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How to Upgrade the RAM in the Mini 210
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Enjoy your New Notebooks!!
History:
01/16/10- created thread with pictures, links and etc
01/24/10- added review(credits to hypdotspec) , and video(Unboxing and Upgrading RAM)
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computerstriker Notebook Evangelist
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Well I guess I can join in as I just picked up an HP Mini 210-1075 this morning at Best Buy in Ontario. They just arrived on Thursday and they had 3 silver and 3 red (none on display-just the 110's still). Salesperson wasn't even aware they had them. I chose silver.
Not quite as spec'd as I may have ordered direct (no HD model, 160 instead of 250G HDD, no bluetooth) but still a nice package. I was also looking at the Asus eeePC 1005-PE but I think I will be happy with this HP.
I've done the set up, registration etc. with no problems...the Quickweb is cool and I've now been on the web for over 2 1/2 hours and battery is still at 75% (does that equate to roughly 9-10 hours for total charge ?...we'll see).
One question I have is, in addition to the relatively easy upgrade to 2G ram, is it likely there's a valid spot for the Broadcom chip (mini PCEi I think) and if so, will it still help this lower rez screen with video playback quality ?
It would also be nice if there was a "patch" to overide the wallpaper issue with Starter ..I know Asus has addressed it, will HP ?
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I'm on the fence on which 210 model to get because just like you, I looked at the customizing options directly at HP's website and other than a 7200RPM hard drive on Amazon's Mini 210, I don't see the broadcom chip or the HD version with it's 1366 x 768 screen anywhere outside of HP. When you do the math for the top model with all the bells and whistles, you're hitting past the $500 barrier after tax and shipping. The question I wonder is if having the HD screen is worth it and how often would I need the crystal HD chip to watch HD content. I've seen most atom netbooks run DIVX videos okay, standard Youtube, standard Hulu, Netflix streaming and streaming content from a slingbox without issues, so I'm just trying to justify why I should spend over $200 more for the top of the line 210 or be practical, save the money and buy the basic model from amazon for $300 shipped to the door.
Care to give us some feedback on your experience with the screen resolution for websurfing and if upgrading to 2GB made a noticeable difference in performance (assuming you've done that already ).
I'm sorry I can't answer any of your questions. Considering this netbook is relatively new, information will start to come out, but it won't happen overnight with regards to finding a way to install the broadcom chip with the standard screen as well as waiting for a software hack from someone out there in the hacking community to change how windows 7 starter operates. Personally, I'm just going to put windows 7 premium on it which I have on a flash drive and just get the drivers direct from HP rather than mess with the restrictions of windows 7 starter. -
The Broadcom chips are easily installed; the bottom plate of the machine pops off.
Also, beware ordering the most basic HP 210.
The basic ones (with the anti-glare screen) come with these weird terraced keys that are NOT fun to type on.
I usually don't like chiclet keyboards but the keyboard on the mini 210 is a joy.
ALSO, the cheapest mini 210 comes in a cheap glossy finish, instead of the matte finish on the higher end models.
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At some point in the future I imagine they will offer the HD screens, but for now they are probably going to stick with the regular HP 210's.
It's surprising that Best Buy is not selling these in brick and mortar stores, yet Office Depot, Staples and Office Max are...
Anyway, I've got some first impressions on the HP mini 210
I picked up the Blue version at OfficeMax today (HP mini 210-1080nr) and I'm rather pleased with it.
Pro's:
Keyboard - I hate chiclet keyboards, but for some reason the chiclet keyboard on this thing is fantastic. The keys have a nice matte finish to them and they are not glossy like they are on the DM3 or on a Macbook. it gives it a more tactile feel which is just absolute joy. The keyboard is FIRM and unless you put major pressure on it you won't notice any flex.
Construction quality: the base and lid are both made of magnesium alloy, which means these things should hold up quite nicely for those that move these things around. I think the hinges could be a little bit tighter, but they should hold up well. The finish on the machine is stellar. It is a royal blue in a matte black finish. The bottom and screen lid utilize a durable matte finish - NO FINGER PRINTS - and it should hold up rather well. There isn't much for glossy surfaces on this keyboard except for the space between the keys and the battery.
Speed: the 1080nr from OfficeMax comes with a 250gb 7200rpm HD 1gb fo ram. I loaded the machine up on the 1gb and then quickly added a 2gb stick i had laying around. With 2gb and a 7200rpm hard drive, this thing is rather speedy. I had an HP Mini 311 for two days with 2gb of DDR3 and a 160gb 5400rpm hard drive and the thing was ridiculously slow. I expected this thing to be slow, but its quite snappy!
Heat/Noise: HP has the "Fan Always On" option enabled by default on nearly every HP laptop I've seen. This one is no different. The fan is a little noticeable in a quiet environment, but after you turn off the option in the BIOS the machine is rather silent. Hooray for 32nm Atoms
Not Pro/Not Con:
Screen: the screen that came with mine is listed as an BrightView Infinity on HP's website and as an 'anti-glare' on the box. It lies somewhere in between. It's not overglossy, but its not exactly matte. It's a fine combination between the two, but the screen seems a tad grainy, but that doesn't bother me so much (it's not like i'm using this thing for photo editing) and i've definately seen worse. The Samsung n210 which boats a true matte screen was far grainier than this one. Part number is AUO31D2. I think the graininess has a little to do with the anti-glare-ishness of the machine.
Touchpad: the touchpad is responsive and easy on the fingers. The touchpad buttons are integrated on the bottom like macbooks and dells, but it is FAR, FAR better than the Dell touchpads. I still would have preferred to see actual buttons, but at least HP got the 'buttons' in the right spot (on the bottom) this time around. The multitouch works great by the way.
The Battery: The 1080nr comes with a 6-cell battery and its sticks out the back just like the HP mini 110 series did. I don't mind it because it raises the keyboard up off the ground AND lifts the bottom up for better airflow, but its at the cost of it being a little more bulky. However, power management and energy usage are much, much better compared to the Mini 110 series. BatteryBar is reporting a total discharge time of 8 hours and 25 mins (8:25) but that will surely depend on usage. I don't watch much flash videos and I don't have any unnecessary services running in the background so I fully expect this thing to last quite a long time on a charge.
The not so great but livable.
Hard Drive. While the hard drive is fast and definately helps with the performance of the machine, it does vibrate the machine a tad and does produce a little bit of heat, but its a worthy compromise for having a 7200rpm hard drive in such a little computer.
Overall this thing is a great computer. $380 is a little steep for a netbook nowadays, but I think it's worth the payoff for a fantastic keyboard, build quality, and battery life. It may not have Asus style battery life, but topping near 8 hours for browsing and word processing is still fantastic.
It's also worth mentioning that all the HP Mini 210's have an available mini pci-e slot for the Broadcom HD accelerator chip. These can be had off of ebay for $25 and is very easy to install. It's definately a cheaper option than ordering it with HP. -
Thanks for that great review. Pretty much told me everything I need to know. Was going to go the cheapest route just to have a small netbook for travelling, but now you've got me thinking. Just a few random thoughts I had...upgrading it looks easy based on that video from youtube. I still don't know if I need that upgraded 1366 X 768 screen, but I'm in no hurry to buy; probably within the next few months so I'll keep my eye open for deals. Good to know that the Broadcom chip can be added separately. The overall quality looks solid, so I know this is the netbook I want, but I just don't know what model I want.
Thanks for the indepth review. I'm sold more on it now, just need to decide on options.
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I also want to point out something I noticed about the fan and the ram.
because the bottom of the netbook is sealed and has no airvents, the CPU fan also acts as a cooler for the ram as well.
I have a 2gb stick in mine and it warms up quite a bit more than a 1gb stick (more of its getting used).
With the BIOS Fan option set to "Always On," the bottom warms up slightly, but with the BIOS setting to "Off" the ram heats up significantly, but the fan doesn't come on. Fan only comes on when the processor gets hot enough.
I've played with a few aluminum macbooks at several stores and all of them heated up on the bottom because they didnt' have air vents. The same thing applies here.
I'm not worried about the heat that much because the magnesium base on the HP mini helps dissipate the heat.
The top of the machine stays cool with the bottom left palmrest getting slightly warm.
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Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake
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Oddly, HP has lowered the price of the Mini 210HD by $1.00. I believe I purchased at $310 and it's now $308.99. Goofy price drop...
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I've found out some saddening information about the "Brightview Infinity" displays.
I think I've figured it out. HP is using antiglare screens across the board on all HP 210 models and on MOST of them they just put a piece of glass on top of it and call it "BrightView." The problem is is that not only do you get the grainy look from a ant-glare screen, but you also get a glossy screen! Top that off with an AUO screen and its just horrible.
I ended up returning my HP mini 210 and swapping it out for a HP DM3 (OfficeMax.com has them for $499.99 this week!) and I'm much, much happier with it.
If HP could release a Mini 210 with a non-glare screen then the Brightviews would be fine... but I guess it just isn't meant to be... -
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How easy is it take upgrade the ram and hard drive? It wouldn't involve taking the whole thing apart, would it? Also, I've seen some netbooks able to OC to up to 2.1ghz, is this netboook overclockable?
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I don't know how overclockable it is, but the upgrade process is extremely easy.
The bottom base plate is one solid piece that is clipped in place underneath the battery. All you have to do is pop off the bottom base and the memory module is right there
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Just bought hp mini 210-1014TU for my brother.. and now i can't install xp pro sp2 in it.. Sometimes it will crash (bluescreen) or it will not detect hdd in the middle of process.
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I received my HP Mini 210 HD today. I took it out of the box, turned it on, and there was an immediate loud buzzing kind of sound. It booted to the Windows XP desktop but something was clearly wrong. Either a fan was faulty or something on the motherboard wasn't right. The sound was coming from the center area of the laptop.
I called HP. I have dealt with the service at Dell for many years and have been very frustrated with them at times but I have to be honest the customer service I experienced with HP today was actually worse. The gal on the phone, who was comically over friendly (and frankly sounded drunk--I'm not kidding), wanted me to send the laptop back for repair. When I refused she then tried to sell me an HP Mini 311. I then asked her if I could have a simple exchange. Then she finally got on the phone with someone else from customer service. They said they would do an exchange but it would be Feb. 18 at the earliest before shipment. Incredibly this conversation took nearly 2 hours and the customer service people were extremely unorganized. I finally just asked for a refund. One good thing from the whole ordeal..I received the laptop at 10:30 and by 1:30 HP had already contacted Fedex for the return and it was picked up today.
So, no HP 210 HD mini laptop but I can give some of my initial impressions from the time I used it today:
I thought the build quality of the laptop was excellent. Very sturdy and solid feeling. I had a silver model and it has a pattern on the case which looks very nice (matte finish so less finger prints). I played with the chicklet style keyboard and I really liked it. I thought it was easy to type on and had a good feeling. I didn't have the opportunity to use the trackpad much but the integrated click buttons worked fine. I did notice that the trackpad was very sensitive. The slightest touch made the mouse move all over the place. The basic sound quality was clear and I thought it sounded good for such a small laptop.
The flush glass screen was clear with good color. However, the high resolution screen makes everything absolutely tiny. I mean the smallest Windows icons I've ever seen on a desktop. The text was smaller than what you are reading now. I did not have the time to enlarge the fonts/icons. I know this can be done in Windows and that might have improved it. I opened the browser although I wasn't connected to the internet. I was able to increase the browser font by enlarging it which made it look better. Since I wasn't on the internet, however, so I don't know how actual webpages would look with enlarged text. Sometimes doing that makes things overlap. I also couldn't check out the Broadcom chip. I am guessing that video would look good fullscreen on that screen but if you have video in a window, like on YouTube, it might be tiny due to the resolution.
Performance: The laptop I had came with a 5400rpm hard drive and the newer N processor. I thought it booted a little faster than the Mini 10 I had in the past and ran a little faster but was still slower than a regular laptop.
The battery area had the buttons where you can pop off the case cover on the bottom which looks handy although I didn't open the laptop to check it out. The AC adapter is square and relatively small--much better than the big rounded on on the Dell Mini 10.
All that came in the box was the laptop, battery, AC adapter and some kind of quick start flyer.
Overall, I liked the design, keyboard, and size of the mini. What I didn't like so much was the screen due to the smallness of icons/text. I didn't have time to thoroughly check performance althought my expectation is that it would perform pretty much like other mini laptops out there although perhaps a little speedier.
I don't know if I am going to reorder this same model, check out the HP mini 311, or buy from another vendor. I'm not impressed with the HP customer service although I do like HP products in general (I have a regular HP laptop right now). This hasn't been a positive HP experience, but I know that once in a while you get a lemon when dealing with electronics.
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computerstriker Notebook Evangelist
As well, your ordeal with HP wasn't that surprising. I was also in the same situation. HP gave me a defected v8t with a broken keyboard. I was talking to them for a long time. It took a very long time to just exchange my laptop. FedEX also lost my laptop as well. Fortunately, HP shipped out my exchange laptop 2 whopping weeks ahead of schedule -
Can this netbook run Hulu in full screen? What about when its on the HD display? It takes more processing power to run flash smoothly on a higher resolution. Netflix anyone? Thanks
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Same here, looking for a Hulu book. I would love to hear some owner experience on 210HD's performance on playing 480p Hulu in 1366x768 full screen, with or without the Broadcom chip.
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Here is a video of someone testing out HD videos on the standard edition without the Broadcom chip. It looks like anything in HD is pretty much unwatchable without the Broadcom chip.
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Seems to be consistent with what Jerry saw in 5102, 3150 is just not cut out for flash playback yet.
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I want a mini 210HD so bad...Was just about to buy one =(
Only 2 issues I have are:
- Will there be a 2GB upgrade option direct from HP?
- Why is there no wireless N + bluetooth option?
- Should ideally have a SSD option...(yes, will make it expensive but...)
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Wow - no replies?
Ok, can someone be kind enough to give me the name and model number of the standard RAM and Network cards that come in these machines?
This way I can see if parts are cheap and I can substitute a N+bluetooth and 2 GB module for the stock parts assuming prices for these are reasonable
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Cannot answer the n+bt without doing some research (download the service manual from HP and cross the models for form factor to the n+bt and voila! you will know what to get)
But, I can answer the RAM question. PC2-4200 667Mhz DDR2 would be the flavor and if you look around you can find some (e.g. Amazon, Crucial, Memory Suppliers, etc) for about 40-50 bucks incl shipping. -
Thanks for that - much appreciated
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Figured it out
Its actually PC2-5300 667
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Thought id join in on the forums, just picked up mine yesterday for $399.99CDN, a little steap, but the keyboard is absolutely fantastic, much better then the 1000's and those were great keyboards aswell. My model is 1077CA, i really do appreciate the battery lifting up the netbook, it really really does help with typing on flat surfaces.
I've sinced removed Starter (with extreme disappointment) and put Win 7 professional on. Only thing i miss was QuickWeb which seemed to disappear when i did this, don't exactly know why either. Looking for ways to get it back up and running. If anyone needs info about this laptop at all give me a PM.
Pros - Nice keyboard, no flex, not to loud, 6-cell battery still fits in the form fitted cases quite well. Its a very speedy stylish netbook. Quickweb is uber fast and extremely useful
Cons - touch pad buttons kinda suck, physical buttons would have been better, screen looks like a matte display with piece of glass on it, so its like a glaring matte display, wish the battery on hp told life remaining not just percent. -
I just purchased my 210-1080NR yesterday. I am not having any luck upgrading the ram. Every time I put the new ram in the screen stays black and the system will not boot. I am trying to install a 2GB DDR2 8000MHz chip which is supposed to be the correct chip for this model. Any help or ideas? -
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Here are someone elses impressions I found on MyHPMini.com for the 210 HD Edition.
I do have the 3-cell battery on my netbook and I cannot complain about the battery life so far. I will say that I do have ready access to power outlets when I need it, but so far I haven't really needed to use them (I am a college student). The battery life (comparing 3 cells) when matched against my old netbook (mini 1035NR) is a LOT better. I use Windows 7 Pro upgraded from the Windows XP that it shipped with. I highly recommend doing this over using Windows 7 starter if you can help it.
I do have the Broadcom crystal HD card. I decided against posting a video because my webcam is terrible. However, I will say I downloaded 720P and 1080P videos online and they played great in fullscreen in WMP and media player classic (the only two I tried). I downloaded flash 10.1 beta and youtube streams HD content very well (although 1080p was just a tad choppy, 720p was flawless - this will probably get worked out by adobe and broadcom). You have to use the supported players for the broadcom decoder to kick in until more are made compatible.
The screen does not bother me, and it is glossy. It seems to do a better job than the mini 1000 did on cutting glare though. The screen is a plastic (not glass) shell over the screen, but the plastic seems a lot more heavy duty in terms of ruggedness than the 1000 series did and makes the netbook feel hundreds of dollars more expensive than it actually is. HP has perfect the form factor on these little netbooks!
One annoyance (although a bit useful -- at times) is that the "F" keys and the functions assigned to them, like brightness and sound, are switched by default. In other words, you press F9 for volume as opposed to Fn+F9. If you want to Alt-F4 to close an application, you have to do Fn+Alt+F4. That took a little getting used to, but It's convenient for volume, wifi switching, and brightness without having to hold Fn.
The general build quality is the best so far in my opinion. This netbook feels the most solid of the consumer netbooks HP has manufactured so far. It takes the flush glass of the mini 1000, mini 110 design improvements, mini 5101 keyboard, and improves them all and incorporates it into a single design. The heat isn't bad compared to the mini 1000 - it's a little better distributed since the battery isn't directly on the bottom. The bottom panel is easy to remove and I upgraded the RAM within two minutes. The fan is virtually silent (I can't hear it during lectures where the general audience is silent). The "dark" webcam problem is fixed that the mini 1000 had (which probably already was fixed in the 110). The mouse pad was easy to pickup and responds to multitouch pretty well. I sometimes want to scroll and accidently get the pinch function registered, but I'm getting close to using it extensively without those issues. If anyone was wondering why the touchpad buttons are integrated and not separate on the bottom, it's because you can run your finger over the mouse buttons and still control the cursor, essentially making the entire pad the mouse control area.
HP QuickWeb is nifty if you actually would use it. I don't. However, it's integrated into the BIOS (I reformatted and installed a new version of windows and it's still there). You can enable or disable it in the BIOS options. Just keep in mind that although it boots into the quickweb in about five seconds, it has to load the application you wish to use inside it which takes a bit more time. I tend to just disable it and boot straight to windows as I spend more time doing general tasks, but if someone wants to turn their netbook on and quickly check their mail, I can see it being the better alternative. -
I just bought my HP Mini 210 HD last week or so and I can't get the wireless to work in Windows 7 Pro. It works great in Linux but if I try to use it in Windows it just says that there are no connections found. I have updated to the latest drivers from HP's site. Has anyone had this issue and figured it out?
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Got mine a couple days ago: 210-1075CA
Upgraded it to a 250GB HD (up from 160GB), 2GB PC6400 Ram (up from 1GB), and got a Broadcom Crysyal HD decoder off eBay for $40 (still waiting to recieve it)
Overall I love this little thing, beats hulking around my M17x all the time -
computerstriker Notebook Evangelist
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Anyone do anything to mod or customize anything, any cool accessories you guys recommend (cases, peripherals).
I have a Canadian model, and the "enter", and left "shift" key are smaller than usual, I assume it's due to the French keys. Anyway to swap for a USA model keyboard?
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Can anyone recommend a neoprene sleeve that will fit a 210 with a 6-cell battery?
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Hmm, ok thanks for the tip! I figured anyone who had a 210 with a 6-cell battery could tell me what they use for a sleeve.
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Also my solution to the CDN style keyboard with the short Shift key and smaller Enter key. There is a piece of software called Sharp Keys:
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Well got my Broadcom BCM70012 in a couple days ago, install was easy, just open the bottom cover, slide the chip in and put the screws in. I got OEM drivers from HP's support site (filename sp44958.exe). I was disappointed at first due to noticing little changes to Youtube vids and also x264/720p vids. Until I followed this sites ( http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/02/18/how-to-play-hd-video-on-a-netbook/) instructions. I can watch downloaded 720p videos flawlessly! As for Youtube vids I had to download Flash 10.1 Beta 3 ( http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html scroll down and get the active-x and plugin) and that utilized the BCM70012 chip. Now I can watch Youtube in 720p HD.
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I just ordered a 210HD with the upgraded processor the broadcome chip and wireless N.... I may switch out a 160 GB SDD i have from another laptop when it comes in.....I was going back and forth on a netbok and wasnt sure which one to get.... I was leaning towards this or the sony but the 25% bing cashback convinced me..... does anyone know if i ordered with XP becasue it was cheaper will i get win 7 drivers or is there no kind of restore disk with it?
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Bought a 210 here in UK from ebuyer, really like it, quality machine. (210.100sa for £230)
Have just changed the 160GB Toshiba 5400 drive with a seagate 320gb 7200.4. Will be changing the ram to 2GB in the next couple of weeks.
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Found the answer of my question. Can be deleted ;]
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I will soon be joining the 210 family. I ordered a 210HD through the bing 30% cashback so I got a pretty good deal.
This is the setup.
* silver crystal
* Genuine Windows 7 Premium 32-bit
* [For GPS or Mobile Broadband] Intel(R) Atom(TM) N475 (1.83GHz) + Intel(R) Graphics Accelerator 3150
* 2GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
* 250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
* 10.1" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1366 x 768)
* Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone
* Wireless-N Card
* Embedded GPS module with HP Navigator software
* 93% Full-size island-style keyboard
* 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (over-sized)
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"Order dropped to factory"
OMG it seems they dropped my netbook on the factory floor !!
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Group. sorry for the brain dump. I need to order a netbook in the next day or so for my wife so she can take it with her to an upcoming conference.
How big of a performance difference is there between the two chips? Can the broadcom HD card be used with the 455 chip? The 475s can only be ordered through the HP website, right?
Has anyone figured out why the RAM on the 1175NR isn't expandable? Is it b/c it is DDR3 RAM or because you need windows 7 installed? If I can't upgrade to 2GB with DDR3 than i'm better off going with a model that uses DDR2, right?
Thanks!
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