HP Mini 311 on sale!

The acer ferrari one gets 4hrs 45 mins in light use benchmark. Even half of that 2h 20 mins is more than enough for me with gaming.

I'm waiting for a better netbook than the acer ferrari one.

Also the thing that makes the neo platform more interesting is the 64bit support for mroe than 4 gigs of memory. A ddr 3 verison with 6-8 gigs of ddr 3 ram should make a very interesting set up.

however your right , right now the asus with dual core atom 330 is very interesting to me. It may make alot of these games much more powerfull , esp newer games where the demand on the cpu is greater.

 

What I am trying to imply is, that if you go out and buy a mini 311 or any netbook, you have to invest money into a commercial player that has codecs that support Nvidia Purevideo hardware acceleration, or whatever chipset for gpu in the system. Also you can download the free players I listed and enable hardware acceleration in that. I use Splash Lite 1.03 on my nvidia systems to play accelerated, .qt or .mov files, accelerated AVCHD files meaning blu ray file format or HD camcorder file format, and also Splash will play .MKV files with hardware acceleration. Not all file types available to splash player will be hardware accelerated. Also I use Media player home classic to play the other formats accelerated but out of the box you have to tweak and customize to make it work right. This is under windowsxp, I dont own it although I beleive cyberlink powerdvd9 will hardware accelerate .wmv files. This will allow smooth playback of most HD file types and work correctly.

These are the programs I use to play videos perfectly on a HP Mini 311, Acer AS1410 intel culv new notebook, and an older acer d110 netbook and an asus 901 netbook, also my main pc.

Out of the box apple quicktime on a netbook will not play hd content smoothly at all and there is nothing you can do to make it use hardware acceleration with nvidia, it simply doesnt use the gpu.

On a System running OSX and using a nvidia card then the video driver under the apple operating system does have hardware acceleration for nvidia gpus.

 

Skyhawk21, 1) then Apple's dev team is lying to me 2) why is the CPU utilization only at 50-60% under XP for iTunes content and 100% for Win7?, 3) why is the NVIDIA team telling me there's a problem with the XP Mini 311 under Win7. Also, why are the 3D06 tests giving lower numbers under Win7? Why is high bitrate 1080 x 720 video played via WMP in Win7 stuttering when it plays fine under WinXP?

 

Hmmm, the info about the BIOS and Windows 7 is making me wait for Windows 7 311 reviews...

 

BTW, I'm trying to get away from those "you must install extra codecs, download PowerDVD, VLC, face north and pray to the Norsemen" kind of thing that we had to do with netbooks running the Intel GMA500 and etc. for the review. You guys and gals here are power users but the average reader doesn't monkey with these things.

The hardware acceleration support really should be there in Windows courtesy of the display drivers and OS or it's not an out of the box graphics accelerated machine under Win7. If HP updates the firmware or releases custom drivers for Win7 and the XP model, that's great, but until they do (if they do) it's my job to say it won't work the way XP does.

My info comes from the ION tech team with whom I worked for this review. Once I saw the lack of acceleration I was shocked and they had me try of few of their other drivers to no avail. They stated that the XP Mini has never been tested with Win7 and that there are problems within the code (firmware and BIOS) that prevent their driver from doing its thing. HP's word is that if you want a Win7 Mini, you must buy that model.

BTW, the Nvidia team told me there's a problem if iTunes is maxing out the CPU-- it should be using Nvidia graphics in conjunction with the CPU, not solely the CPU.

 

1) Then Apple is lying, Ive been using quicktime and itunes now for like 3-4 years on nvidia equipment. no GPU acceleration just cpu load. Unless u run a mac

2) Windows xp out of the box on the mini 311 has less cpu load and utilization due to it being windows xp which can run on any system from last 5 years. Windows 7 uses 100% utilization and load due to windows 7 having still more overhead and being like vista, resource hungry also vista and win7 uses all types of new layers to support audio hardware, graphic hardware and so forth( you probably were running aero full 3d desktop while using apple to play quicktime files) aero takes cpu and gpu load just sitting idle at desktop in win7, remember xp does not have a 3d desktop. 3dmark06 will show lower scores due to windows 7 being just that WINDOWS 7 you need more of a system to run windows 7. Windows xp gets a 3dmark06 on the mini 311, score of 1509 using the n270 atom processor, and 3 gigs of ram, when I tested win7 due to the overhead of the new OS I got a 1472 or so in 3dmark06 with less of a cpu score.

3) Not to offend you, but have you even tested windows 7 on a powerful system, compared to the same hardware on windows xp?? Have you read any reviews else where? Windows 7 may be better tweaked and programmed compared to windows vista, but it still is not the 100% answer if your happy with windows xp. Windows xp on my system which is already outdated due to intel icore5 and 7 being out, runs smooth as butter with no issues anywhere with software and hardware being overclocked to death. A Intel atom processor has no cache compared to a desktop chip, it has no horsepower so to speak, windows xp was the only os when atoms first appeared with netbooks (actually the first ever asus netbook had a intel celeron 900 which had more horsepower than an atom cpu). Just because HP is claiming Windows 7 will run on the mini 311, does not in anyway shape or form mean it will run better than windows xp. None of the benchmarks you can run will get a better score, none of the gpu related (games and video playing) will provide better FPS because Windows 7 on a netbook is more overwhelming than xp is to a netbook. There is so much extra stuff at the hardware and software level that windows 7 uses to decipher communications between components. Its 2-3 times the amount of threads, processes, drivers, services, hardware and software layers compared to how xp does it.

Dont know how to put it, I am not great at effective communications verbally. And im too lazy to type correctly as well.

make any sense?

How did you get in contact with nvidia exactly? I dont know of many people on the net who actually get two way communication out of them, they arent doing so great right now as a company or business. I dont beleive theres an issue with there chipset and windows 7? I beleive the issue is the weak cpu and the more demanding os. As far as the video stuff is concerned all I know from my experience is that WMP12 is suppose to fully use hardware acceleration like the desktop does in windows 7, and that was not working for me using the latest driver from nvidia in the retail oem windows 7 ultimate OS. that was kind of funny to me.

 

then we're interested for different reasons ... since the mini 311 and 1201n are essentially the same size, battery life is #1 for me. from the nettop reviews, n330 ion doesn't seem to be a big performance bump from n280 ion, and my impression, like archangel said, is that by the time it would make a difference, we'll be way beyond either of them. maybe a difference will show up in winblows 7, which doesn't interest me. #2 is the larger 12.1" screen. huge amounts of ram isn't critical for anything i do.

the other strange thing is that ferrari one has xgp instead of hdmi ... definitely not as practical ...

i found the hp mini 311 manual up at:
http://myhpmini.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=2443
from the schematics it looks like the default 1 gb really is just soldered onto the board, and not just hiding under the keyboard ... of course, it would be nice if someone could check

 

Nvidia and apple must not know their butts from a hole in the ground. Go look at my screen shots a page back, I just proved that windows xp and nvidia drivers and a good system soley only use the cpu even on a quad core all cores to process a quicktime file.

you want acceleration you need software and codecs to enable it, thats how it works on a PC desktop, laptop, netbook any computer APPLE software has never included gpu acceleration If it did on my 3.2ghz 400fsb, 4 gigs of ddr2-800 running 1:1 scaling would not choke on a HEAVy say 15-20mb data rate 1920x1080p quicktime clip from a HD camera.. Well guess what quicktimes which are itunes videos by the way, can drag my system to a crawl using apple software. and as in my screenshots i use a software program that u just download and install and are done with, once gpu acceleration is selected 0% load across all cores and gpu full load playing the video. windows xp and apple software never played quicktimes smoothly unless they are A. low res, B. low data rate and HD clips are not any of those options.

I havent seen any of your other reviews but im getting the impression and gut feeling now that you must be a apple or mac user normally. On OSX apple video driver for nvidia gpus has hardware acceleration for .qt .mov files and so forth. as well as the desktop and any software that comes with a mac. u get gpu acceleration on nvidia only gpus for everything. That is not the case for a pc and windows xp, windows vista, and windows 7. You might want to check your sources and research the net. Ive been building and tinkering with pc's since the days of windows 3.0 and let me tell you the gpu business has been a long windy road.

the mini 311 is a great system and it does hardware accelerate videos, u just need to know how and windows xp does not do it out of the boxc, Heck in Windows 7 microsoft thought it would be a great idea to include .qt and .mov video file native support out of the box, so go load up windows 7 on your mini 311, play a .qt file or .mov file using WMP12 not itunes or quicktime, bet it works better than apple software!

 

Skyhawk, NVIDIA, like other companies, have teams to work with the press for product reviews. NVIDIA actually has a top team that's very responsive and works very hard to correct bugs and work on problems. I'm the boss at an online periodical that reviews notebooks and netbooks among other technology products. We've been doing it for about 10 years. That's why they're working with me.


To answer your other question, I have Win7 running on about 10 difference systems right now, from netbooks to a Mac Pro. I've been testing it (at first in pre-beta builds) for just about a year now. These days I'm using the RTM version.

Let's end this essentially one-to-one conversation since it's getting way off topic and is probably boring everyone else to death.

 

Damn, it hasnt been out a month yet and the bla bla bla about how the optimal drivers and firmware about an OS that isnt designed to even be supported arent available yet has started.


If you want a more powerful BIOS and drivers for your 311 then WRITE THEM YOURSELF. You all seem smart enough.


Me, im gonna sit back and enjoy the fact I have 11.6" netbook w/ Win7. Especially the great part that it has a 1602 3DMark06 rating. I feel HP released a great prouct here, about time they started climbing back to the top. *Cross your fingers on the Envy and DM3*

Skyhawk great catch on the hardware accelaration issues with Itunes and the fix. I always look forward to reading your posts.

 

Thanks was that sarcasm or humour

 

LoL!

Humor! Your posts roast someone and teach something at the sametime. Makes me laugh.

 

I just wanted to bring the facts to the table about how hardware/software work or dont work and how it in reality does with the operating system. If you buy any netbook, your going to want it to have a gpu that can be utilized with hardware acceleration. The cpus especially the atom cannot handle playing any type of HD video file format. The SU3500 intel cpu can handle 1080p .wmv barely meaning it plays 30 or whatever the fps is, sometimes it still skips a frame or two and for a solo core thats the fastest cpu in a true netbook right now. The atom and ION can play video hd smoothly and with low load on the cpu, only way to do it is to enable hardware acceleration in software that comes with codecs to offload the video to the gpu. Windows xp neither Windows 7 can fully hardware accelerate video, the way the operating systems do it is through DXVA using directx to send some info to the gpu and then work with the cpu. That is not full gpu hardware acceleration.

Side note Ive been using gpus since the golden days of 3dfx video cards, and the voodoo video cards. directx sucked on them yet opengl made it possible to enjoy games on them. (Unreal, half life, quake..)

So future how did you get 16xx 3dmark06 score? u said your using win7 and the newest nvidia drivers? u got 3gb of ram installed? also do u got the n270 or the n280 in yer mini 311?

I can only get in win7 1462 or so 3dmark06 score compared to my xp/sp3 score of 1509. im using 3gb of ram and the n270 with the os tweaked and optimized... still getting impressive fps at 1024x768 in alot of games for a netbook, it weighs what 3.5 pounds and u can play old skool games on it that took a system that weighed about 20 pounds and was top of the line when the games first came out (warcraft 2, warcraft 3, unreal, unreal tournament, quake2-4, doom3)... Thats what I love about the ion I can play all my old games I had to use top of the line High school owned computers to play from when I went to school in the late 90s!

 

because we are hardcore. i'm the type of hardcore where i don't want and intel i7. i'm amazed at mini 311. others that are hardcore have i7s etc., and are still amazed with mini 311. basically you are not hardcore, you are more... uhhh, normal(for lack of a better word).

in your world you are happy with a PS2 with a 7" LCD instead of the hardware limited but small PSP. (sorry to bring up the psp. but it's the closest comparison i could find concerning dude's 7811 to ION... but we all know if ps2 was his 7811, the ION would be... uhhh... nothing else compares.)

i am not. 11.6 is awesome size. hook it up to TV at will. play quake 4, doom 3, half-life 2, etc... i'm satisfied. ur not. welcome to the hardcore crazy people we are. i am not embarrased to say i will load dreamcast on this and enjoy some fighting games. 3hr battery gameplay ain't nuthing to cry about either,,,

 

I already posted benchmarks of the atom 330 getting 89% performance increases over the atom 230 (hyper threaded single core 1.6ghz) even in games the performance is better all with an ion.

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=664

The other thing is the future. How long will the ion be around. current news storys show nvidia pulling out of the chipset busniess. As it is amd continues to take more and more market share in the chipset market



and current law suits over liscensines with intel makes us doubt their future in the chipset market.

So what happens in a year or so when nvidia is out of the market. do we stop getting driver updates for the ion ?

Way to many questions

We both have diffrent needs so its reasonable we will find diffrent things worth while. I'm trying to wait till the 22nd when hopefully we see reviews of more ion and congo based netbooks and see what the diffrences are.

 

I dont really care for hardcore or normal. To me you are just some one who can be easily amused... But then again we all are simple minded in our own ways.

Not sure what to say lol. Did you miss your normal meds... Not a fan of hand held games or Console games. And your comparison of 7811fx, makes not much sense. Little bit more cohesive please.

Good to know you are satisfied... I can care less. As long the system i am purchasing do what i need it to do, i will be fine with it.

Personally i dont think you are hardcore, that term is relative. But thanks for the welcome

 

Well there's always Via Nano with Ion (or Ion 2, I'm hearing its coming with Ion 2 now).

 

Ion 2 has nano support. The problems there are vast.

1) Via doesn't have its own fabs and their cpus are allways behind on the process shrinks

2) The via cpus make up like .01% of cpu shipments . Even in the netbook market it most likely smaller

3) Via's chipset busniess is going down the tubes . Look at the graphs i posted , amd is gaining share from via not from nvidia

4) The via cpu is faster but uses more power than the dual core neo from amd. So there isn't much of a point

5) Via's roadmap is even worse than amd's

Also if the ion 2 is only dx 10 then they are in trouble. AMD already has dx 11 igp's coming early next year for these segments.

 

What games would these be? That review is bogus. He benchmarks Vantage, and two odd ball valve utilities. That is hardly a game... Extremely misleading and irresponsable for that reviewer to state that 'games' get a 89% performance increase on average. And really, for you to spread that around too I just have to shake my head.

It is entirely possible to gain 89% in an application, including games, but it won't do that for most titles out there. Again, the PCP article is utter crap for making gaming predictions. I am surprised, because PCP is a pretty decent review site, but that review was garbage.

Also note that Vantage and both valve utils are 4+ threads and very specific type things showing what the CPU is capable under the best case scenario, not the average scenario.

 

Well by that I kinda meant that it should be nVidia should be supporting the Ion and Ion 2 with drivers and support.

 

I had fun with Half Life 2, this machine runs it like a dream. Looking forward to loading some more games today.
Is there a 311 owners thread anywhere? All the arguing in this thread is making it hard to keep track of this thread

 

You should start one up, because this isn't an owners thread. It is mainly an informational thread. Most of the important things have already been discussed and no matter how you slice it, going through 52 pages of posts is going to make anything hard to find or keep track of.

Which is why it is a good idea to make use of the search function. That is what I have to use all the time. A good example of the video thread in graphics area... The mods merge everything into one thread practically... Your only avenue to find anything is to either read the thousands of pages, or do a search.

 

Where's a good place to pick up one of these babys in the UK? Is there any where to buy it with the n280 processor? and I assume it comes with the free slot to upgrade the RAM?

 

So its your believe that going foward games will only be 1 or 2 thread and not 4 or greater ?

IS that what you believe ?

It doesn't matter if it does it for most games. It matters if it does it at any point. Whenever you are cpu limited with an ion 230 or similar and you have an ion 330 and the game is multi threaaded it will pull ahead in gaming until both cores are over loaded which will result into maximum frames or your gpu limited.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=79&p2=91

sadly its not using the ion platform so no gaming but it will show you the other advantages of the atom 330.

Also from what I gather using the atom 330 only increases power consumption froma bout 20watts to 29watts .

 

I got mine from the hp store. It's listed at £330 but use code save10hp to get it down to £296. Also if you have quidco account there's 4% cashback which gets it down to £284. Great deal. I ordered Monday and it arrived yesterday. Not openend the slot underneath yet but I can't see it being different to the hp branded model.

I loaded some more games today. Starship Troopers runs great, over 50fps with medium detail. Star trek legacy also runs great. I installed battlestation midway but that wouldn't run

 

I'm having some trouble playing back HD video. Trying to watch Planet Earth (720p) and I'm having video and audio stuttering. I have the CCCP Codec Pack installed. Kinda new to HD video, so I'm not very sure how to fix this. Anyone have any ideas?

 

Give this a shot:
http://myhpmini.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2331

 

For those who are interested. I requested a replacement machine since the problems with Win7 just seemed too severe. Also noticed the video BIOS looked suspect (version reported with a few garbage characters). The replacement machine does wonderfully with video playback under Win7.

3DMark06 still shows a lower score but I'm not surprised given XP's strength in that area.

 

Tried the directions in that thread, but the stuttering is still there + theres audio/video sync issues when I try to use MPC. Thanks though.

EDIT: Uninstalled the CCCP Codec Pack and it working perfect now. Thanks again!

 

is the design on the back of the Compaq version the same as the HP version?

 

I believe it's dots (different from the swirls), but that the Compaq version is only sold in certain countries. Could be wrong.

 

My netbook setup:

HP Mini 311
• Black Swirl
• Genuine Windows XP Home with Service Pack 3
• Intel(R) Atom(TM) Processor N280 (1.66GHz, 512KB L2, 667Mhz FSB)
• 1GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
• 160GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
• NVIDIA ION LE with a 5-in-1 Digital Media slot (For the N280 processor)
• 11.6" diagonal HD LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1366 x 768)
• HP Mini Webcam
• Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
• HP Color Matching Keyboard
• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
• Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope


New OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition (Comes in the Windows 7 house party pack)

After installing Win7 multiple missing drivers. Only one that worked was the LAN driver.

Ran Windows 7 update first. grabbed a lot of drivers (thats where my graphics driver came from currently)

Grabbed the Wireless driver from the post on this fourm and installed great. I am using N currently w/ my ASUS RT-N15.

From the HP.com website (311-1000 CTO driver area for Windows 7 32bit) I downloaded and installed the ALPS pointing driver and the NVIDIA Chipset drivers.

This completed all missing drivers on the machine giving me a 3DMark Score of 1240.


I then installed my new RAM (Crucial 2GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Laptop Memory)

Ran 3DMark06 again and got 1602.

Following this threads advice and Aero and service I disabled a lot of them like I would Vista but I realized something. The more I disabled things the slower the machine got. Just disabling Aero gave me a score average of 1565.

 

Compaq Mini 311 pics:

http://myhpmini.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2231

HP Mini 311 pics:

http://myhpmini.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2230

 

reference to ur 7811 because it can play any game you want as compared to the netbooks we want with more power but still can't play any game we want. you asked i answered. it is hard for me to organize thoughts into words, but the only med i need is beer. basically, you asked a question and i answered. you're right, hardcore is relative. nowadays hardcore is someone with an XBOX 360 with all of the FPS for it. back in the day it was those of us who had a PC instead of a console and got ridiculed for it. i used to get ridiculed for telling people how FPS were fun. now that's all they play. but they still have no idea what a mouse is... those wierd consolers. i say mouse, and they say, "where??!" right, i am easily amused, but not as easily amused as the word "easily" says. if i was easily amused i would have bought an MSI Wind U123 and played Quake 3 and WC3 all day,,, yet i didnt. i would buy a netbook if it werent for ION. the only time i see myself sacrificing power for portability is when Pandora comes out. Mini 311 is nice and portable, and powerful for it's size and price. i do like desktops but not laptops, but oddly, i am drawn towards ultraportability(handhelds, and now netbooks, etc.) my first portable pc ever is this. i still dont care for cellphones tho... what a wierd craze to me. people paying hundreds of dollars for a phone. a freaking phone. then hundreds of dollars for the service. freaking phone service. my spiel has gone on for too long, sorry. i'm thinking about erasing it, but... . i think i'm gonna hit "Post Quick Reply" ...

 

I'm curious about something pertaining to the RAM.

I just installed a 2GB of PNY DDR3 1066 MHz. But, I'm only seeing 2.75 under my system settings. Is this about right? Some earlier post reported a full 3GB.

 

The other .25 is being used as dedicated memory for the graphics card.

 

Hey Futureperfect, since you have Windows 7 installed. I have something to ask. I noticed on the XP version, when you had multiple windows opened and you start moving a window around on top of another it would somewhat lag and leave after-images as Windows tries to update its new position (screen tearing or whatever, or its just really bad with page flipping/double-buffering). Since Aero is rendered by the GPU, does that still happen on the HP Mini 311?

 

Having no issues what so ever in Win7. I can have muliple windows and IE open at the sametime w/ no lag.

My only issue is the random half second lockups every 8-10 minutes or so with streaming Netflix (Silverlight) video on full screen w/ the HDMI output. Its not bad but noticable enough to make a drinking game out of it.

 

Thanks =] Thats good to know. I mean its not a big issue (performance) to me, but I guess its just a cosmetic blemish that catches my eye now and then.

 

Seriously im curious what program did you use to read the bios info and got garbage instead of it displaying the bios info? I want to see if its effecting the laptop I got? thank you!

what video and system bios did the replacement system have? does it have an ION chipset or the ION LE chipset? came with windows xp or win7 stock? thanks

 

I just ordered mine! (Thanks davek22, that code saved me £30 )

Is it confirmed that the free memory slot is both user accessible and upgradable? If so what kind of memory am I looking to get for it? Are either of these sufficient?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159916
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-046-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1264

Just out of curiosity would this work: (Not that I can afford it )
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164771

 

Hey Guys, why does it show two processors in device manager under Win7? Is it multi threaded?

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz

-TK

 

you see 2 threads because it has hyperthreading, not as good as having 2 cores though

 

Gotcha, figured as much.

One other question if possible. While resuming Windows on 7, sometimes it just hangs indefinitely with an underscore in the upper left corner of the screen (the rest is black). Does anyone know what is going on here? Is everyone's sleep / hibernate working properly? Thanks for any info!

EDIT: It's hibernate causing the problem. Sleep works fine--and really the one I should be using anyway since it resumes so quickly.

So far I'm loving the Mini311. Got the video offloading to the GPU looking silky smooth. Very nice!

-TK

 

Well I uninstalled the Roxio program and it speeded my system up hugely. Thanks for that tip a few posts back. I got rid of Norton and loaded Avira but for some reason the update check won't work. I left it for 35 mins and no joy. Anyone got any ideas?
I love the form factor on this machine. It's got build quality of a machine that costs 2 or 3 times as much. My girlfreind on my acer one and I can't believe same pricepoint as the 311 a year ago.
I think the netbook has finally come of age

 

if i were u , i'd do a complete reinstall of whatever windows your going ot use. Also the new microsoft anti virus program is really good and free. I'd do that with windows 7 imo

 

Looks like Amazon has a Windows 7 Starter variant up, or maybe not (Amazon seems confused with the listing name and the product info):

http://www.amazon.com/Mini-311-1000...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1255811858&sr=1-1

 

PDAGAL: Here was the point I was trying to make earlier about itunes using only cpu on the ion+atom chipset while if you use a commercial or free player with full hardware acceleration, the workload is mostly on the gpu and not the cpu. Thanks goes to PCPER.com

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=663&type=expert&pid=5

This goes to prove not only on my desktop but notebooks/netbooks as well apple and quicktime/itunes is not at all hardware accelerated on windows platform's.

 

Can people post pictures of the actual unit? I'm more of a "see before I buy" kinda guy and stores won't really have the Mini 311 in stock until they start pushing Windows 7.

 

Hey!

Headsup! HP will be having 25% Bing Cashback - starting on Sunday, October 18, 2009 (that's tomorrow)!

Source: twitter.com:

http://twitter.com/hpdirect

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5412711#post5412711