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    HP OMEN 15 and 17 owners lounge

    Discussion in 'HP' started by tweake628, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. RussellA

    RussellA Notebook Geek

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    Hey, I just got a i7-10750H, 3070, 16 GB RAM Omen 15. It's got undervolting enabled, so I've set up a -0.1 mV on Core and Cache, disabled BD Prochot and changed Speedshift to 32. Anything else I should do?

    My current CPU temps stay in 70s and spike to low 80s at times, and my GPU stays in high 60s and spikes to mid 70s. I have a feeling I can get more performance out I guess?

    What are you guys doing in your throttlestop / afterburners with similar config laptops?

    Looking forward to some expert advice here
     
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  2. willhub

    willhub Notebook Geek

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    Is it possible to mod my HP OMEN 15-dc1045na to 115w bios, it's got a 2070 max q.
     
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  3. cenkaetaya

    cenkaetaya Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys I am having an issue where when I reboot the laptop it always sits on a black screen for 2-3 mins before shutting down and restarting.

    This was right after a clean install, not sure what is causing this. I have installed all possible updates.

    AMD 4800H
    Geforce 1660 Ti
     
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  4. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    HI

    I have OMEN 15 (2020) R7 4800H with RTX2060

    I want to repaste it with TFX paste and change all the pads for better ones. Does anyone know what is the thickness of stock pads?
     
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    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    Any info on F40 BIOS? my 2020 Omen 17 updated to it via Windows Update...
     
  6. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    All it says is
    - Provides improved security.
    - Provides improved system stability.
    Right.
     
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  7. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    HP/Omen finally released the big boy customization options for sale. I9-11900H/3080 16GB. I wonder what the wattage for the GPU is.
     
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  8. neit_jnf

    neit_jnf Notebook Guru

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    OMEN 17 (2021)
    Screen Size: 17.3" QHD 165Hz (2560x1440) or 17" FHD 144Hz (1920x1080) 100% sRGB
    CPU: i5-10400H or i7-11800H or i9-11900H
    GPU: RTX 3060 (130W) or RTX 3070 (140W) RTX 3080 (165W)
     
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  9. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    Well after a year and a half I finally got Fan 90B error. I clean frequently but I think the bearing in the cpu fan went. $40 for new fans. Kind of a pain in the butt to do. Full heat sink removal and repaste. Also MX4 paste is garbage. I'm switching back to Kyronaught tomorrow.
     
  10. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    Did you get them straight from HP or somewhere else? Mind sharing where to get them? Mine are approaching two years old. $40 is not outrageous.
    Yes this machine likes Kryonaut, I also gave up on MX4 (which was fine on my MSI).
     
  11. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    Ebay. They are the exact part number and manufacturer. Like for like. You must make sure you get the proper fans for your GPU setup. Mine is 2080 Super so these are the ones that worked for me.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/114159704405

    I also went and repasted again with Kryonaught. So much better. Screw MX4.
     
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  12. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    Picked this up for $9 from this local shop and added Wifi 6 just like that. I had the Intel 9650NGW card before. Automatically updated the BT driver and brought over my wifi login. So far its running great for a cheap mod.

    https://www.impactcomputers.com/l57250-005.html
     
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  13. Sickox

    Sickox Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey guys i have omen 17 2080 (2019 mode) and my laptop is overheating after i did factory reset, it wasn't overheating like this before. can someone explain?
     
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  14. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    What BIOS are you on? I recommend the F35. Mine overheated out of the box and I fixed it, just go back 2 years to follow that saga. If yours just started doing it, it may just need a cleaning or repaste. Up to F35 the BIOS power limits are the same, but if you've reinstalled/are using latest omen gaming hub, different versions of that have different power targets for the modes. If you're suddenly now running 90 watt PL1/PL2 with the older Omen Command Center you may indeed be getting temperature spikes.
    So need to know your BIOS and what version HP software you're using, either OCC/OGH.
     
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  15. Sickox

    Sickox Notebook Enthusiast

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    im using f.40 bios..? is there is a way to rollback to f.35?
     
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  16. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    That I don't know, most of the updates have been quick and just the basic BIOS, but I think it was 30 was a huge one that took forever and updated many firmwares throughout the machine--previously chatted with someone who was unable to rollback that one. I don't know what's happened between 35 and 40.
    But the version doesn't magically change how hot your chips get; it can change what wattages HP allows to run and resultant temps, but up to 35 the PL limits had been managed by the software and not the BIOS. I've stayed on 35 because it's fine, I don't want undervolting to go away, and the release notes haven't said anything I care about.
    I assume you have the i9-9880H? Also, when you did "factory reset" did you use HP cloud recovery, the Widdows refresh, or what? Since you're on the newest BIOS you may have a mismatch between the BIOS and the software? If you use HCR it puts you back to 2019 OOBE condition and needs updates beyond just Windows.
    Unless you bought a new boxed 2019 model if you've never opened it, it's seems most likely it's dirty or dried out paste. The sudden increase may just be your PL settings have changed, but this machine, with GPU idle and no undervolt, can run the i9 at its full turbo boost curve at around 90C and 90W. It will hit 100 with the GPU active and takes some taming. Where are you getting the spikes? Gaming, general Windows, or benchmarking?
     
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  17. Sickox

    Sickox Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey do you have discord we can chat on?
     
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  18. Burrick

    Burrick Notebook Consultant

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    sent you a chat
     
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  19. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    Ahh I see that HP Support Site has bios F.31 now for mine. Upgrading now.
     
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  20. Sickox

    Sickox Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don’t get it. Im on f.40 now, can i download f.35 (available on hp site) and install it on the f.40?
     
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  21. teslamaxwell

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    Just want to add that TS alone not enough to unlock full potential of the omen 15t dc-100. Omen Command Center needs to be installed (along with the required SDK and dependencies) from MS Store.
    I have my 2070MQ locked at 1500Mhz on core pulling 77-80W underload. and 9750H(-130mV vcore, -150mV cashe) locked at 4Ghz pulling 55W under heavy gaming and around 70W when stress-tested with CB20.
     
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    The3DTutor Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys,

    I was wondering if there is a higher vbios available for the RTX 2080 Super 150w. My laptop is the Omen 17-cb1003na with the i7-10750h processor.

    My thermals are pretty good so thought I could push a little more out of the card. I know 2019's 2080 standard had the mod but not heard much about the Super.

    Also anyone know how thick the thermal pads are in this laptop?

    Thanks.
     
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  23. The3DTutor

    The3DTutor Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys,

    I have a Omen 17 i7-10750h with the RTX 2080 Super and just got this score in Timespy. It's my personal best. What are you scores?

    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69368842?

    I used performance mode in Omen Command Centre and the GPU has a 150 core and 700 memory overclock. The CPU is undervolted but not capped in any way through throttlestop. My max temps were 79c on the CPU and 60c on the GPU.

    Edit: Just ran Firestrike with same overclock, undervolt and performance mode in omen command centre and achieved 27612 graphics, 18441 physic, 9252 combined and 20938 overall. Max cpu temp was 79c and max gpu was 69c. Man I wish there was a higher watt vbios for the 2080 Super. Sigh!
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69389768?
     

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  24. OneSickOmen17t

    OneSickOmen17t Notebook Consultant

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    Read my sig for info. very similar. Hits 10500 non-oc. 11k is OC'd.

    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15588044
     
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    The3DTutor Notebook Enthusiast

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    Nice! How are you hitting 10500 with stock settings? Also what are your oc settings? Are they stable for gaming or just benching? I can't push much more past 150-160 core.

    Edit: just saw you are running an i9 compared to my i7 which explains the score bump.
     
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  26. Rackers

    Rackers Notebook Enthusiast

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    I believe this vBIOS is from a Aorus 17X YB which is 200W 2080 Super variant. I've not been brave enough to try it! I also saw on Reddit there is a 2080 Super Alienware vBIOS hanging around on Techpowerup site that may work as long as the display is GSYNC which the cb1003na is - not been able to locate this though.

    EDIT: Removing link to Aorus BIOS as it won't work, device ID does not match.
     
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  27. The3DTutor

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    I believe I tried the alienware vbios and it gave a black screen with no output ports working either eeeeeks! I managed to fix it by flashing blind in windows. Using the keyboard commands to launch cmd and then the commands for flashing the original bios.

    Maybe I'll give this gigabyte one a try. Maybe.
     
  28. Rackers

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    Ah interesting, I'll stop searching for that BIOS then.

    Braver man than I am, I'll be interested to see how you get on!
     
  29. Rackers

    Rackers Notebook Enthusiast

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    After some more research, I have good news to report for Omen 17 2020 users with a 2080 Super - there is a 200W BIOS for us!

    It comes courtesy of the Clevo XMG Ultra 17 which is a 200W G-Sync variant - BIOS is here: VGA Bios Collection: Clevo RTX 2080 Super 8 GB | TechPowerUp

    I've done some quick initial testing running HWiNFO64 and the Heaven/Time Spy benchmarks and I can confirm the GPU draws between 198 - 214W under stress and maintains a higher boost clock (I am overclocked by +160Mhz on the core anyway).

    I've finally breached 10k on Time Spy & it took my Heaven benchmark score from 3425 to 3770, min FPS from 36 to 40 & max FPS from 281 to 310.

    I've already repasted with Gelid GC-Extreme and temperatures compared with 150W are around 2-3c higher (70-74c on GPU now). I suspect on a long gaming session I will see that increase slightly but the cooling after a repaste gives headroom for this BIOS.

    I use a HP USB-C dock which still works, HDMI still works but I don't know about the Mini-DP as I don't use it so that is not a deal breaker for me.

    Credit goes to DaMafiaGamer for posting the original instructions in this thread: HP Omen 17 2019 RTX 2080 VBios Modding (190W) | NotebookReview
     

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    I'm going to give it a go tonight! I have tried a few before and all lead to a black screen and having to blind flash the original vbios. Hoping this one works!

    I use the displayport connection for my hp reverb g2 so I'll report back. Hopefully it works.

    Thanks for sharing this man.

    Edit: IT WORKS!!!! Not only does the vbios work but the displayport works too! Hwinfo reports max power draw as 214w!

    This is a game changer. I was eyeing a rtx 3080 laptop but now I'll definitely hold off. I'll list the benches I've done so far with the new 200w vbios below and update as I do them.

    Kombuster 1080P with 150/700 OC: 4030
    Timespy using default setting in omen cc with overclock 150/700 and 200w vbios
    11210 graphics
    7222 cpu (had to limit turbo to 46 rather than 50 as I had a little thermal throttling. Overall score improved though!)
    10352 overall

    Edit 2:
    Timespy performance setting in omen cc with overclock 150/700 and 200w vbios
    11346 graphics
    7352 cpu (full clocks this time)
    10491 overall
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/70594261
    This higher score is due to the fans running faster on performance mode keeping cpu temps down (max cpu temps 89c and max gpu 63.6c but hot-spot 71.7c). It seems the gpu temps don't rise too much but for me the cpu temps are affected a bit. Still ok but certainly higher than before the 200w vbios.
     
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    No problem, I just kept thinking there must be a BIOS out there somewhere!

    Good to hear all the ports still work, no downsides apart from heat! I was also eyeing up other models but this has definitely been a game changer for me, the extra 10-15% is enough for now especially at 1080/1440p.

    I think I'm going to need to go down the LM route to bring the temperatures down, that or reduce the turbo limits. I'm seeing 97-99c in a BFV session but in fairness that is about the most CPU intensive game around, this is with Omen CC set to max fans as well. If LM really does reduce temperatures as much as people say I'll be in a sensible range again without having to limit anything.
     
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