HP Omen 15 (5XXX series) Gaming Notebook

Mine are about the same or higher. It looks like you'll need to get a replacement.

Or you could try reapplying thermal paste if you were comfortable with taking the machine apart.

 

I'm strongly considering repasting my GPU - hoping for better temperatures and performance.

 

In case you want to repaste the thermals, you will have to dismantle the laptop and more
Importantly, remove the rubber strip on the bottom. I believe the same is not reusable. You may want to consider again..

 

I see. Yea I would return the laptop for another one if I were you. I have never had the laptop beyond 80c, including playing games in summer.

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It's more like rockstar have done a really good job on porting, fully used the hardware potentials.

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Th4tRedhe4d didn't you have a AW15 and had the some fan issue that I have?

When I called Dell I ended up asking for a refund before a replacement.

I pretty much got the AW15 to play GTA V on, and it does it at everything maxed out.

I did consider the Omen before buying the AW15, if you did change, how are you finding the Omen over the AW15, is there any major draw backs (price is my major issue, the Omen is very overpriced), or is it worth dumping rather than replacing the AW15 with an Omen?

 

Yep, that was me.

Personally I think the Omen is better than the 15 in every way except performance (obviously).

It's got:
-Better build quality
-Better materials (aluminum vs plastic)
-Better cooling
-Lighter/thinner
-Better looking 1080p panel
-PCIe SSD support
-About the same battery life? (My Omen gets about 4.5 hours while taking notes with WiFi on and full brightness; I never tested the 15's battery life before returning it.)

So if playing GTAV is your main concern and you like how my results look, I'd say go for the Omen.

Wait until you find a coupon though!
My Omen with a 256GB PCIe SSD only cost $1120 + tax straight from HP (30% off coupon). In the past 2 months they've had 30% off, 25% off, and 20% off of the Omen that I know of.

Edit: The speakers on the Omen probably aren't as good as those on the 15, so that may be something to consider if it's important to you.

 

Problem is we don't get coupons in the NZ, cheapest I can find the Omen is $2000-2700 USD, which is way to much, actually it is a freaking rip off.
The AW15 I was able to spec i7 quad, 16GB, 970M for about $1600 USD.
If I was able to get the Omen for $1100 then no doubt I would be going for the Omen hands down.

Interested in the better cooling? The AW15 has some mean cooling and is very quiet under gaming load, temps are decent, never throttles, and when on battery the fans almost never come on. How does the Omen differ, would like to know bit more about the cooling?

If you were to use the Omen direct on lap, e.g. watch TV in the living room (I don't like laptop coolers), does it get very hot on lap?

 

I believe that geforce experience is a little conservative in terms of how much one can optimally push the gpu. I marked some of the settings that have been turned off in your case for optimal experience manually and the game was still working flawlessly ( i have installed all the latest patches). However, for me smooth is anything at 30+ fps, which may not be the care with everyone. Further, the game looks to be optimised well for pc as there were no hitches on the Omen.

 

At that price I would just stick with the Alienware or look for other options.

I haven't tried gaming on my lap so I'm not sure what those temps would be.

I guess by better cooling I mean that the Omen idles in the mid-30s to low-40s where the 15 always idled at 50 degrees or more for me. The keyboard/chassis on the Omen never gets warm/hot while idling like the 15 did. Max temps when gaming are probably around the same for both.

 

you can also consider the Aorus X7, x5 or xx which were my intention of getting them, but I need a laptop urgently and they weren't out here back then. Prices slightly lower but helluva specs, better than omen and alienware 15 especially the x7.

We have talked about resting the laptop on your laps before not long ago

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Just installed and tried GTA V on my omen. Works flawlessly on highest settings. Am surprised that 860m is quite potent compared to its middling rating in terms of GPU. The game looks fantastic with superb draw distances and lighting. Takes a huge space in omen of about 65GB and hence had to uninstall some existing games. Dome highlights are -
- some issues during installation due to server issues at rockstar
- i stand with my belief that geforce experience is a little conservative in terms of pushing the gpu to max available in game graphical options
- temperatures in Onen on playing GTA are much lower then what i get while playing games like Crysis 3, far cry 4
- it is stupid of me to notice this only NOW, but have noticed now when i was short in space - the actual available space on SSD is JUST 223 GB
- load times of game is super fast due to awesome speed of SSD
- Omen's 1080p screen makes GTA look even better with crisp colour production and awesome sharpness.
- will try to share some in game screenshots for reference

 

I can vouch for that!
Havent tried to increase the graphics settings yet. Playing at GeForce optimized settings, and that to looks stuning.
Temps lay around 68-75, as in every other game I have played on the omen.
Was sooo afraid of that Rockstar would do a ****-up with porting the game to PC, as they did with GTA4. But as someone else here said, they have really taken full advantage of the hardwares capabillities!
Awesomeness!

 

Hi,

I just signed up to the forum. I found this useful discussion and I do thank you for the review and all the information you provided. I apologise for my non-native English and I really hope that you are not bothered for the length of this post. Maybe it's better a long one than a thousand of subsequent questions. ;-)

I purchased an Omen 15-5003nl exactly a week ago and everything worked almost fine. During the last days I tried to do some gaming more often and I would like to ask you if you upgraded the latest f.23 [f.23ap1] bios.

Yesterday I tried to upgrade the f23, even if it was not available through the HP Assistant. I noticed that it gave me a slight fan “whirr” in idle, while the previous f09 version did not. It was nothing of really annoying, but it was “persistent” and continuous. Doing all the time office-work, I noticed it a lot, even if wasn't loud at all.
I tried to re-install the f09 and this minor issue disappeared (there was the usual “always on” fans' reassuring and not-annoying murmur).
Today the f23 was effectively available through the Assistant, consequently I tried to install it a second time: again the same fans' whirr and the CPU bus speed was ALWAYS steady at 3500 Mhz when playing and all the time after playing (idle).
Thanks to your advice, I disabled the turbo (99% in the power options) but I notice that now it is very often steady at 2500 Mhz when playing or visualizing images.

With the f09 I was able to use the turbo, with average gaming temperatures such as 65 C° for the Nvidia and 70 C° for the CPU. The Unigine benchmarks (I had them in Bundle with the Omen) in 1980X1080 and ultra quality were fine and I had no issues.

With the f23 and the turbo enabled, I joined 92 c° with the CPU, running Unigine Valley, which was almost very quiet with the f09.
With the f23 and the turbo disabled (99%) I joined 79 C° for the CPU and 70 C° for the Nvidia playing the Beta Game “Snow” (very fast and detailed skiing game) with high details for a couple of hours (the first hour had been cooler).

With the f23 I have 40/45 C° for the CPU in idle. With the previous f09 bios I had something like 30/34 C°.

All this to ask some questions:
Do you experience the same whirr with the f23 bios? Should I re-install the f09 bios? What are you going to do with yours?

Do you strongly advice to disable the turbo? I am not very experienced, so I did not understand if the Nvidia compensates for the work of the CPU. In other words, am I able to play with good settings also poorly programmed games? I am not an hard gamer, but I would like to be able to play some games that are going to be launched during the following months.

Do you always play at 1080p or do you usually lower the resolution?

Do you think that the 350.12 Nvidia driver is fine or we should maybe use the previous one (which was certified by Hp)?

The last question is about the cooler: do you think that the Notepal U2 is fine or the U3 would be better? The U2 is shorter but the fans are faster and give more airflow. The U3 would give the possibility to put a third fan in the upper-middle, which is the hottest zone. Does the Omen keep still on the U2? Is there room enough for the U2 fans' joints under the Omen's bottom?

Sorry again for the length and thanks again for the help!

S

 

I haven't tried F23 yet, but I would just stick to F09. It looked like F23 was just adding support for new models, no improvements in current models.

I keep turbo boost disabled at all times (unless benchmarking) just to keep lower temperatures. Disabling turbo boost shouldn't hurt too many games, but you'll just have to test that and see. It hasn't given me any trouble in game yet.

I'm using the newest Nvidia driver that I downloaded straight from their website (350.12) and I haven't had any problems with it.

The Notepal U2 works well for me, but I think the most important thing is that the computer is elevated. When playing GTAV I kept the same temps while the Omen was sitting on the Notepal U2 no matter if it's fans were on or off.

 

As has been mentioned above, i dont think there is any enhancement feature in F23 bios. I have installed it and there was ni difference. Only decent upgrade that i saw though HP website was for realtek audio drivers and omen control software update. Alteast the omen control software update has made my Omen control behave less wonky . Further, during productivity work i did notice some extra heat generating from the laptop but nothing of concern. I however, did not think of issue too seriously as sometimes most of the fan noise and other such sounds just drown in ambient noise of surroundings. As stated above also, i also use nvidia geforce drivers as HP is notorious for not updating their stock gpu drivers. It is much stable that the previous iteration that was released.

As for some whirring sound in fan again, i believe that you may have migrated from another laptop recently. I also felt that the fan were a little loud when i migrated from a dell inspiron 14 to Omen. Gaming laptops always have slightly higher fan sound then normal counterparts due to more heat to dissipate. This is true with even hardcore boutique gaming laptop manufacturers like Razer, MSI etc

 

@Th4tRedhe4d , @amazer ,

thanks a lot for the inputs. I feel more relieved . I was just annoyed because, with the previous Bios, temperatures were almost decent and fans noisy but not annoying (it's not the degree of noise but this circular sound that drives me nuts). I think that I'll leave all the suggested drivers from Hp for a couple of days and eventually I'll rollback bios and 350.12.
I agreee that it seems a laptop made to be elevated

 

Anyone know why my airplane mode button does not enable/disable airplane mode? I know the button physically works, its been tested and was working before my clean install. If I enable/disable airplane mode in the Windows settings the LED on the key turns on/off like it's supposed too.

 

Try pressing f12 without the fn key

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I've tried, it doesn't work with or without the fn key.

 

Just the airplane mode key? Do the other fn keys work?

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Yep, all of the other keys work fine.

 

Try pressing the f12 key harder. Hold and turn it a lil maybe the rubber underneath is stuck

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I don't think it's the key itself, another program recognizes it every time I hit it.

 

Reinstall omen control?

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I may revert back to the previous version and see if that fixes anything. Are you using the newest version?

 

Yeap I ll try and see if mine works too. I haven't touch they keyboard for ages since I bought a new one

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Mine still work on the latest version. Could be something to do with your windows/network settings?

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Maybe so, I'll look into it and post the solution if I figure it out.

 

One question - how are you guys updating your intel drivers? In case, you are uodating at all? We update our GPU drivers directly from Nvidia and sound card drivers from HP assistant (Realtek). However, for intel drivers update, does anyone do it regularly or is it required to be done regularly? The reason i ma asking is that most games have this info displayed at time of installation to update intel and GPU drivers and most of us- just install latest GPU drivers and no intel driver.

 

if you use the Intel drivers frequently I guess so. I would only rely on HP assistant's to give me the uplates but I don't use the integrated gpu much

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How is everyone's Omen Control behaving after software update? Is it better now in terms of behaving properly for various settings like light control, RGB control etc... Mine is a bit wonky since purchase. For eg - whenever, i turn on the laptop it always starts with 100% lighting across full keyboard speakers etc irrespective of my earlier saved settings of say - zero lighting

 

My lights are always off when I turn my computer on and then they flash once about 5-10 seconds after I've logged in. I'd say it's still a bit buggy. For example, if I open Omen Control and click in the lighting section and then click on another section without making any changes it reverts back to the default color scheme of all red.

This is after doing a clean install of Windows 8.1, before that Omen Control worked flawlessly.

 

Good to know. Mine works fine (I have the original Windows install), even if sometimes it forgets to save settings on a profile and I need to repeat the entire operation. Sometimes it freezes when I try to rename one of the profiles. At any rate, the new version of the Omen Control is better than the previous one.

About the fans, I never understood if the "more fast" option (the second one, not the fastest) really differs from the "normal". They seem pretty similar in terms of noise and response.

About the bios, I rolled back to the F09 and it is absolutely better than the newest F23 (IMHO). Here is a comparison that I made using the Unigine Valley Benchmark (ultra quality, 1080p) exactly with the same settings and i7 turbo disabled (99% in power settings). You can notice that the average FPS' are almost the same, but you have lower temperatures (better fans' management, I presume) with the older bios. I had similar results while playing games in full load, without any issue with the f09.
Moreover, with the F09 my fans are almost silent in idle, so I really prefer this older version,

F.09 BIOS
FPS: 36.7
Score: 1534
Min FPS:16.9
Max FPS: 65.0

| +- CPU Core #1 : 798.154 798.153 2494.29 (/intelcpu/0/clock/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 798.154 798.153 2494.29 (/intelcpu/0/clock/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 798.154 798.153 2494.29 (/intelcpu/0/clock/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 798.154 798.153 2494.23 (/intelcpu/0/clock/4)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 43 40 65 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 41 37 62 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/1)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 42 39 63 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/2)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 43 39 60 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/3)
| +- CPU Package : 45 41 65 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/4)
| +- CPU Total : 0.78125 0.195313 29.1326 (/intelcpu/0/load/0)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 0 0 53.0769 (/intelcpu/0/load/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 0.78125 0 27.443 (/intelcpu/0/load/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 0 0 30.2043 (/intelcpu/0/load/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 2.34375 0.78125 37.5 (/intelcpu/0/load/4)

| +- GPU Core : 270 0 1097.14 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/0)
| +- GPU Memory : 405 405 2505.6 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/1)
| +- GPU Shader : 540 0 2194.28 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/2)
| +- GPU Core : 0 0 60 (/nvidiagpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- GPU Core : 0 0 99 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/0)
| +- GPU Memory Controller : 0 0 42 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/1)
| +- GPU Video Engine : 0 0 0 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/2)
| +- GPU Memory : 2.68517 2.68517 18.7633 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/3)

F.23 BIOS
FPS: 36.9
Score: 1545
Min FPS: 18.4
Max FPS: 69.7

| +- CPU Core #1 : 2494.24 798.154 2494.24 (/intelcpu/0/clock/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 2494.24 798.154 2494.24 (/intelcpu/0/clock/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 2494.24 798.154 2494.24 (/intelcpu/0/clock/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 2494.24 798.154 2494.24 (/intelcpu/0/clock/4)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 49 38 72 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 48 36 71 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/1)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 48 37 70 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/2)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 51 38 68 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/3)
| +- CPU Package : 51 39 76 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/4)
| +- CPU Total : 13.0859 0 48.4375 (/intelcpu/0/load/0)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 1.5625 0 54.774 (/intelcpu/0/load/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 33.5938 0 56.25 (/intelcpu/0/load/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 5.46875 0 50 (/intelcpu/0/load/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 11.7188 0 50.7813 (/intelcpu/0/load/4)

| +- GPU Core : 548.648 0 1097.14 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/0)
| +- GPU Memory : 800 405 2505.6 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/1)
| +- GPU Shader : 1097.3 0 2194.28 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/2)
| +- GPU Core : 0 0 67 (/nvidiagpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- GPU Core : 0 0 100 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/0)
| +- GPU Memory Controller : 0 0 43 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/1)
| +- GPU Video Engine : 0 0 0 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/2)
| +- GPU Memory : 2.68517 2.68517 18.728 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/3)

 

Hi guys.. I'm brand new here and would like to just ask HP Omen owners:

-How long have you had your Omen?
-Overall satisfaction?
-Major gripes / issues?
-What things do you like most about your Omen?

And finally, considering all this, is it worth it? Would you recommend it to others?

I am looking into buying the HP Omen, with 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, and 4GB GPU.. I'm based in the UK and this configuration is really very hard to find.. Best I could get for it is £1400.. Just want to know your opinion and what you guys think.......... Really wary of spending a lot of money on a laptop.. Also this will be my first gaming laptop, and first HP laptop........... (I've only ever had 2 laptops in my life which are both boring Acers)

Cheers !

 

- Got my first Omen in december. Had to return it cause of issues with very high temperatures on gpu and cpu. Peaked at 97 degrees celsius. Have had mine since early january this one is all good.
- Overall I'm very satisfied, best laptop I've ever had. Also my first gaming laptop, and surprised of how well it performs although it's not the highest specced gaming laptop out there.
- As mentioned I had issues with heat with my first one. At least one more here on the forum had the same issues. I got mine swapped, he didn't for some reason. We have the same model, Omen 15- 5000no, maybe something to watch out for, although the one I have now works very good. It's stable at 68-75 degrees while gaming both on gpu and cpu.
There is some issues with the software omen control, something makes it not fully functioning. Most of us have the issues I think. But it is software, so it might get fixed over time. Not a very big issue anyways.
- The thing I like best is how well it is buildt and how descret it is. You can take this to school and write notes on it. Looks like any other laptop, but with much more finess. Rival laptops looks like spaceships and will make you look like the biggest nerd around, relative to the Omen.

As I haven't spent any money on my Omen, I dont really know. It depends on how you prefer design over specs, or the other way around.
Rival laptops is cheaper, with more plastic, and looks silly, in my opinion. So yeah, if I was about to spend this much money, on a serious computer, I might have bought this one.
I have the 256gb one, and its a bit short on storage, so would definetely gone for the 512gb version as you are.

Hope this helped a bit

 

had my Omen (2GB VRAM, 8GB memory, 256GB SSD) for 7 days and have periods of unexplainable sluggishness and even freezing doing simple tasks. its a beautiful laptop, though 256GB is a little light for me as well. I have an Alienware 13 w/ 960m and 512GB SSD to test out next week as well as an Aorus X3 970m. The Aorus will be the most powerful, but I suspect cosmetically I'm gonna still prefer the Omen. Tempted to return all three and wait for the Broadwell i7 and 960m Omen upgrade which seems imminent, and get 512GB SSD. Battery life on my Omen and the weird stuttering are my two gripes against it. Its really striking.

 

grr, the stuttering made me double post just now in fact. still can't stop loving this beautiful machine. hands down the prettiest since my original Razer Blade Pro and HP Envy 15 Black edition.

 

I have never experienced any stuttering while doing any task on the Omen. May be you can try to do a clean install of drivers - gpu.

 

I've never experienced any stuttering with mine either. A clean install of Windows may help. Check drivers first though like amazer said.

 

Me neither. No major issues other than the temperature on my first one. The one I have now performs flawlessly in every way except omen control

 

Thank you so much for the reply, guys.. I guess it just depends what my expectations of the laptop is and how lucky I am with the unit I receive, I hope.. The one I'm looking to get is the 15-5000nd ( K1R02EA#ABH) model.. Not sure how this may be different from any other units.. (?)

Actually I am curious about the usability of the glossy screen display, I am worried if it will bother me because it will be too glossy and reflective.. How are you guys dealing with it, is it not an issue? Do any of you guys have screen protectors on?

Also I understand all HP Omen with 256 or 512GB SSD has the PCIe connection (not SATA)? Just wanna make sure..

 

I think that is a subjective thing. I was very worried before purchasing the laptop and I'm happy to say that it doesn't bother me. It is true that it's a glossy monitor, the same one of many other Hp Envy or Spectre touch notebooks. Personally, whenever I work on texts or I surf the Internet, I don't notice it and I'm fine. The same if I watch a movie with normal day-light or at night with artificial lights. I had issues only when I tried to watch a video at direct strong sunset light.
The black borders of the screen are very reflective (you can see your fingers typing), but I don't think that it should be a problem.

 

Both 256gb and 512gb versions are PCIe. They have better performance due to faster interface and broader bandwidth then normal ssd. You can judge the same by yourself by observing the speed at which Omen boots. Its the FASTEST i have seen in ANY windows laptop..

 

Stuttering issue aside (and not sure again why it strikes every now and then, haven't had any issues today), its a beautifully designed device. And dang it, HP, you just know how to try and sweet talk me into keeping stuff. As I said I have an Aorus X3 Plus 970m and an Alienware 13 both arriving tomorrow and Thursday to try out. Between the 3 systems the Omen is the most beautiful by far, and the cheapest. That and HP offered me $100 off my current paypal bill if I decide to keep it. With the earlier coupon that means I could keep this thing for $1200... Very, very tempting to do so. Have all week to decide.

 

I would keep the Aorus if I were you. But I'm performance before looks kinda guy

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yes the display is a mirror. I have installed a screen protector to reduce the reflections

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How does that impact the screens performance? Thinking of colour vibrancy, touch and stuff..
And how well fittet to the screen is these protectors? will the cover the black panels too?

As for me the glossy screen may be one of the most anoying thing about the laptop...but havent thought of doing anything about it

 

It kinda turn the screen into a matte screen but not losing too much colour accuracy and brightness. Touch works as if the screens naked. Mine does cover the black panels.

However I did not get the screen protector because of how reflective the screen is. Its solely for protection purposes. I do photography very often I have a calibrated monitor as the main screen most of the time as working outdoor although is nice but not realistic for my line of work. Oh did I also mentioned keeping the screen bubble and streak free is a *****

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There is a deifnetely a glossy effect on IPS screen, but that is not something unique to Omen. Most of the laptops with touch screen and IPS screen have the same issue - eg - new razer blade. But the colour reproduction and contrast are really good with respect to suppose a Mat display, but sacrificing the outdoor use due to lot of reflections