HP Omen 17 2019 RTX 2080 VBios Modding (190W)

DISCLAIMER: This mod is NOT officially supported on the HP laptop mentioned below, and YOU assume all the risk and liability by attempting this mod on your own laptop. This thread was created merely to show that this mod is possible!

Please note: IT IS SUGGESTED THAT YOU APPLY LIQUID METAL TO THE GPU AND CPU BEFORE TRYING THE 190W VBIOS, OTHERWISE YOUR GPU MIGHT THERMAL THROTTLE!

Stock 150W vBios is also included, scroll to the bottom for the link!

Testing​

I have tested this RTX 2080 190W vBios for quite sometime now and have come to a consensus that it is suitable for daily gaming use, there are three reasons why (you can skip this and go to the bottom if you like):

330W Charger

The laptop does not use all 330w of power when gaming, actually it hovers between 250w-280w under extreme CPU + GPU loads (furmark + Prime95). So there is potentially 50w-80w left to spare for battery charging. If the battery is already charged this spare wattage can be put to good use. With a 190w vbios on the RTX GPU I'm reaching 290w-320w of use, still there is a good 20w-40w for battery charging factoring in extra load the PSU can take.



Heatsink Design

As you can all clearly see the heatsink design for this laptop's GPU is no slouch, (note I didn't say the CPU ):



All of that heatsink mass is cooling just a 150W GPU! With there being multiple thick heatpipes on the GPU side the laptop would have no problem keeping temperatures in the low 70s with a repaste. This is why there is enough leeway for us to play with. Another 40w increases temps from an original max of 69-72c to 76-79c. Please bare in mind that this is with LM applied.

Expect 6-8c higher on thermal paste!



VRM Design and layout

This was the most important factor of the whole mod! Luckily HP have actively slapped a heatpipe on all the GPU VRMs which means no burning out today (Alienware Area 51m ):



As you can see there are 8 mosfets, 2 for the vram and 6 for the vcore.

Meanwhile the Alienware Area 51M has 6 mosfets, 1 for the vram and 5 for the vcore :



Both laptops use the same mosfets: NCP- 303150

From this we can conclude that the HP has MUCH better power delivery to the RTX GPU die as it has one extra vrm for the vcore and vram as well as notably better vrm cooling as its actively cooled via a heatpipe and not some metal shroud like the alienware, this was the problem with the area 51m the vrms were not cooled thoroughly and this is gladly NOT an issue with the HP Omen.

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Benchmarks​

Here is a 3dmark timespy benchmark of my HP Omen with the stock 150w Vbios:



Here is the same benchmark with the 190w Vbios:




Here is a UserBenchMark score of the GPU at 150W +200MHz Vram +140MHz Core:



Here is a UserBenchMark score of the GPU at 190W +200MHz Vram no core overclock (remember the alienware vbios has higher base clocks):



In games I see roughly a 8 - 12% performance increase with the vbios mod, especially in GPU heavy games like Assassins Creed Odyssey

VBios​

Here is the modified vbios: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hvwT1MOj_qkt3Pnfdby6EB8SbbmcU6no/view?usp=sharing

Included in the folder is the stock Vbios which is labelled as 'TU104.rom'

Flash via the NVflash program provided, type this command in with CMD reading from the folder directory:

nvflash64 -6 190w.rom

For the stock HP Vbios type this command:

nvflash64 -6 TU104.rom


Good luck flashing, remember to always backup your original vbios using NVflash!

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How can you mod vbios??
I am fascinated by your work

 

You don't I just directly flashed the alienware area 51m 190w and 200w vbios and it worked. You need a special version of nvflash for it which disables hardware id checks.

The HP rom should work on your Alienware, BTW the omen can handle 200w on the RTX gpu easily (max temp at 78c - 80c on the 200w vbios ), the CPU struggles though and needs down clocking to 3.6GHz from its 4.2GHz base to keep it from thermal throttling.

Bare in mind the Alienware laptop has a thickness of 42mm whilst the omen is 27mm thick. This is crazy performance in a thin and light. Thank god the GPU has an overkill heatsink.

 

Can you send me 200W vbios? I just have 190W and not found 200W

 

My laptop is clevo p751 and I am using 190W vbios of 51M

 

Here is the link to All TDP RTX 2080 except for 180w. Compatible with RTX 2080 G-Sync ONLY!!!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10bU9egVEpbdLLAHE-DBZo0fdOnN8DQjN/view?usp=sharing

If your laptop is NOT G-Sync do NOT flash!!

 

I think the temp is very low in short time of 3dmark test. But in game or longtime of fullmark, the temp can kill your heatsink

 

I have LAPPED the heatsink and have liquid metal on it. I've been doing this since I was 17 bro. Trust me I've done some crazy TDP experiments in the past. No heatsink fails dont worry Just ask @IllusiveMan about my GTX 1080 TDP mods LOL (reached upto 280w on one mxm slot) on a Clevo P870KM1-G

I have never had any of my TDP modded cards fail. Maybe I'm lucky or I know what I'm doing

 

Very nice. I hit up my fire strike graphic to 27K

 

I tried with liquid metal but very scared. So I changed to MX4 thermal paste.
With liquid metal, my GPU can be reduced 5C. But let try later because of the temp is not high enough

 

Bro you got to take chances. I bought this omen for £3k first thing I did before even turning it on was rip of the heatsink lap it and put liquid metal on it. I know people who have flashed 190w rtx 2080 vbios onto a 90w rated max-q card now that takes confidence

 

Let try it. can you give me some info about lapping and name of liquid metal you used

 

+100 to overclock

 

Thanks for this, great work!

Is this the ailienware bios or did you dump and mod the HP one? Looks like you said g-Sync still works as well, correct?

I havent tried it yet but i was thinking about grabbing a lighter 240W power supply to travel with. Do you think it will still work and just power limit throttle sooner?

 

I just used the alienware area 51m vbios. It is exactly the same as the HP vbios, G-Sync works all output ports work aswell. With the 330w adapter the battery does start to drain after 6-7 hours of gaming. I went from 100% to 95% in that time whilst playing battlefield V, a very CPU intensive game. That is with the 200w vbios and CPU without power limits. The power supply can just about supply this beast of a laptop with the power it needs. There is NO way that a 240w adapter will cut it. The system itself utilizes 40w - 60w, including the lcd, ram, nvme drivers and even the rgb keys! Add that on with the 200w RTX 2080 and the 60-90W the CPU uses when gaming. You are already looking at 300W - 350W of power draw, something which the power brick can certainly handle with power throttling, but it just about makes it....

Basically, if you want to use a 240W PSU forget the vbios mod, you can just about get by undervolting the CPU and limiting all core clocks to 3.6GHz allowing only 30-40w max and using the default 150w rtx 2080 vbios. Even then you might stress the 240W PSU on intense loads.

 

Thanks for the info. I will have to play around with it and see if I can manually set CPU clocks and GPU clocks to pull 240 watts under load. The battery should cover any spikes right? What do you use to test total power consumption, software or wall plug monitor?

Ideally i could create a throttle stop and afterburner profiles for traveling and just switch to those when im using 240w. Then just switch back to a normal profiles when im home with the 330w.

 

HP ran some ridiculous deals yesterday - got this for $1520 after cash back:

Omen Laptop - 17t
No DVD or CD Drive
512 GB Intel® SSD + 32 GB Intel® Optane™ memory
Full-size island-style dragon red legend 1-zone lighting red backlit keyboard with numeric keypad and 26-Key Rollover
Security Software Trial
16 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)
Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX 200 (2x2) and Bluetooth® 5 Combo (Gigabit file transfer speeds)
OMEN by HP 17 Laptop PC
Office Software Trial
Windows 10 Home 64 ADV
HP Wide Vision HD Camera with integrated dual array digital microphone fTDB
4-cell, 70 Wh Li-ion polymer
17.3" diagonal FHD 144 Hz IPS anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
Intel® Core™ i9 9880H (2.3 GHz, up to 4.8 GHz, 16 MB cache, 8 cores)+NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 with G-SYNC® (8 GB)

Looking forward to trying this mod on the GPU. Note - you can still get this config for $100 more today.

 

As did I. I'm going to have to use XTU or Throttlestop to tweak the CPU, I'm sure - but that 190/200W VBios looks quite tasty.

 

Tweak the cpu to use 3.6ghz on all cores with a -120mv undervolt. That with the 200w vbios in gaming with liquid metal on the cpu and gpu and your golden You’ll get the performance that WHOPS the Alienware area 51m. HP did good this time, it took them so many omen products to finally get it right!

Wanna see my MacBook Pro 19 i9 compared to this beast!

 

I am super stoked to see such performance is possible and up to 200w vbios as I always felt vbios power was what held my 1060 back as well.

If I leave the VBIOS as stock or use one with say 180w power limits, is it possible to keep the cpu maxed as long as UV is applied?

I am trying to balance my approach here so I dont restrict that CPU either, I want the best balanced approach where Im getting the CPU full performance and then as much out of the graphics card as possible within thermal limits given the stock thermal material.

Went as far as I could without replacing thermal material on my last omen in software, looking to do the same this time around!

I would upgrade the paste to something better but with the bare dies I prefer seeing what can be done with stock first as its lower risk haha

 

I cannot find 180W vibios. Do you have it

 

Wow that is amazing! Might try the 190w myself. Quick question, the 10091 timespy graphics score you are getting with 150w vbios, is it with no gpu overclocking?

Edit: typo

 

Hi,
can I use the 200W vbios for 2080rtx in my 870km1? I used the 190W version it works fine and NO nvida inf mod is needed. I have vapor chamber even with 190W it is cool
thx

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...from-vbios-of-51m.831062/page-4#post-10971386

Hope you have warranty for that card +..........

 

I wouldn’t recommend this on a Clevo card, some are dying at 150w as it is lol. I know one guy who bought the gpu for his P870tm1 and it failed in only a matter of days (power rail failure).

It’s funny to say this but some rtx 2080 bga solutions are better designed than their mxm counterparts this time around that is almost never the case usually.

@Prema is correct to state that it isn’t safe. The only reason I used the aw 51m vbios on my hp was because it has the same mosfet management as the Alienware, which is surprising to say the least. Same mosfets and everything, just more of them (which are actively cooled too )

 

not even the 190w? it works fine but then i go back to the original 150w. do you have an original 150w vbios? do i need programmer or can be flashed normally?

 

Personally I’d take the risk but most people shouldn’t as the card is more likely to burn out.
@Prema has stated it is not worth the risk but if vrm cooling is good then you can take it to 200w no problem. It’s the same as the 190 anyway except the limit and the target are set to 200w instead of the target being set to 190w. 10w doesn’t usually make a difference, but power spikes of upto 220w on the 200w vbios is what can...

 

i have vapor for it but i do not want to risk, i follow prema guide

 

You can flash the hp 150w vbios, just make sure your laptop has g-sync support otherwise you might end up with a black screen.

 

i would flash the original clevo vbios instead

 

Here you go then (Clevo 150w vbios) https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/208784/208784

 

thx. and how to do it? i have flashed only with programmer

 

Do not flash it with a programmer, use nvflash.

 

thx

 

Is it possible to unlock the original clevo 150W vbios? and for more important, is it safe? I put back the original 150W vbios.

 

I think you’ll need cross flash. If you can edit TDP on Clevo vBios... Most likely nope.

 

OK, then I give up the TDP increase. 1,5k is the difference between 150w and 190w in based on my tests

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.826831/page-455#post-10879601

Edit. The burning mess continue in AW Camp. I would have a second thought about use Dell's firmware.

 

Could you post a step by step? I downloaded the files, ran the NVflash, but then im lost. It wont let me type

nvflash64 -6 190w.rom

Forgive me, I don't use CMD, like ever​

 

extract the folder you downloaded

shift + right click

.\nvflash64 -6 190w.rom

restart

Just like op, you choose to take the risk. I'm not responsible for what happens.

 

Ok. Received my Omen 17t yesterday and with stock paste I am able to pull about 24500 of firestrike graphics with a +150/+800 on afterburner. Updated to the 190w VBIOS and was able to get around 26500 with the same settings in afterburner. I will do a repaste with thermal grizzly kyonaught and try again. Temps for the GPU were a max of 66C with 194w and 82C on the CPU (9880h 8 core)- this was just for the benchmark runs. Hell of a system for a tad over $1500. Solid build quality and this laptop looks superb.

 

wrong thread, sorry

 

HP Omen 17t (i9-9880H and 2080 non-maxQ) with stock paste, 200W Vbios courtesy of the OP, at +175 core +400 vmem, -130mv on the i9 along with some other tweaks courtesy of @Mr. Fox

87C max CPU temps on the physics test with a solid 4GHz frequency, 70C max on the GPU with 1860MHz at the lowest and roughly 1950 to 1975MHz average with the CPU at a solid 4.3GHz and 73C max during the GPU tests.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9775373 (fixed the CPU ring offset and now I'm #1!)

For reference, here it is bone stock (with bloatware AV still installed): https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9763049

Firestrike for those interested: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21285851

And Port Royal: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/190238

 

Has anyone done a repaste with Liquid Metal? Are they using paste or pads on the RAM chips and the VRMs?

 

Did liquid metal and lapped the heat sink. The GPU is slightly higher than the cpu, meaning uneven contact on the cpu side leading to overheating even on liquid metal. It is a 8 core 16 thread behemoth though .

I used pads on the vrms...

 

did you replace the pads that came with the laptop originally?

 

Nope

 

I get 26070 in Firestrike with +139 GPU, +300 RAM, -0.1650V on CPU and the tweaks linked by Arestavo (9750h model). Feels a bit low to me.

Also, when running OVerwatch, it starts with 290-300fps but the framerates drops to half of it the longer I game. MSI Afterburner still shows a stable 4 GHz on the CPU and 1850-2050 on the GPU. That's kinda weird.

 

What scores were you expecting?

 

Maybe more in the 27000+ range since Arestavo is sitting at 28k with the same graphics card and his faster cpu should not matter in the Graphics Test.

Overall the results of the bios mod have been quiet underwhelming for me.
With 150W bios and +160GPU/+800 mem I average at a boost clock of around 1850 in games and a Firestrike score of 25.100.
With the 190W bios and +140GPU/+800 mem I average at a boost clock of around 1950 in games and a Firestrike score of 26.100. +160GPU will crash sometimes with the 190w bios.

So we are talking about a 4-5% performance increase. This is bought by a 50W measured higher power draw, higher temperatures and louder fans. Currently that's not worth it for me, maybe if I decide to to a repaste later.

Will the 180W bios from this thread work?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/area-51m-bios-vbios-collection-mirrors.829190/