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    HP Pavilion dv7-7010us A10-4600M Trinity

    Discussion in 'HP' started by suhlash, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. suhlash

    suhlash Notebook Enthusiast

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    i just bought this computer today because it has insane battery life - 12.5 hours.
    it has a large 17.3" 1600x900 screen.
    but in exchange the computer weighs 6.8 pounds.

    it is going for about $750 right now
    HP Pavilion dv7-7010us Entertainment Notebook PC | HP® Official Store

    it is so new that i don't see any reviews yet.

    i will post once i get it in 5 days.
     
  2. T2050

    T2050 Notebook Deity

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    Looks good, hope you enjoy yours, I am enjoying a simular DV6 with the same processor.
    Hope you are getting it without any overclocking expectancy in mind, then you will like it. There is a negative feelings around here that are disappointed and angry, that the new AMD processor mutliplier is locked, but they should of expected that anyway.

    One funny thing is HP are list the ghrapics as AMD Radeon HD 7660G Discrete-Class. Which is the right model but is not discrete rather than a IGP built into the processor.

    One very nice thing I can see with the notebook you have ordered is the 9-cell (100WHr) Li-Ion battery. This is going to give you some serious running time on battery!
     
  3. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    12.5 hours = you're doing nothing, and the screen is turned off.


    my dv6-7010us is going back to the store. At $700, it's just a huge ripoff.

    $750 for an A10 is also a huge ripoff.

    For 799, you can get an ivy bridge i7 with a gt630 dgpu + bluray and 2 year warranty.

    talking about battery life in a 17" laptop is just silly.
     
  4. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    What kind of benefits have the more expensive I7+GT630 over A10-4600M? Will run anything better for twice as power consumption?
     
  5. ForeverZen

    ForeverZen Notebook Deity

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    Discrete class, "class" being the operative word. That's how amd has always labeled their igpus.
     
  6. tanpatrick

    tanpatrick Newbie

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    Would you know how many hard drive bays it has?
     
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    berri Newbie

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    tbone8ty Notebook Consultant

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    the 7660g is better than a gt 630m

    NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    A10 has better battery consumption than the 45w i7's

    $750 is a good deal if it comes with the 1080p screen

    yah there are better deals out there but this thread was started for people who have A10's and/or looking to buy one. i seriously doubt anybody considering an ivy bridge i7 would even be looking at this thread.
     
  9. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Agreed, getting the 630m is pointless. But the dv6z still has pretty stiff competition from the i5+650m dv6t.
     
  10. tbone8ty

    tbone8ty Notebook Consultant

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    agreed! that setup is probably the best overall for price/performance... i was gonna go for that laptop, but wanted to try out the A10.
     
  11. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    Actually no, the gt630m is very competitive against the 7660g, and is faster than it in realworld games.

    AMD keeps tweaking their drivers to eek out extra points on 3dmark11, so you can't go by that.

    Look at the game results on that webpage. gt630 beats out 7660g in most games.
    7660g actually performs embarrassingly relative to gt630

    That's why I mentioned the gt630.

    If you're on a tight budget and don't really mind battery life, i7 + 630m is a better buy.


    gt630 = reworked gt540 = about same as radeon 6650m, which is faster than 7660g
     
  12. mrpelo

    mrpelo Notebook Guru

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    I'm not sure what you're saying, but you should know that the latest AMD drivers bumped performance by up to 15% depending on the title. Graphics drivers on mobile devices are different as they're held back by the manufacturer. The 7xxx GCN class got a very nice bump in the last drivers but whether or not that makes it to your laptop depends on whether your laptop is locked down by your manufacturer.

    The GT630m performs slightly better than the 7660g but it's also a Fermi architecture in a laptop and that means heat. Lots of it. Driver maturity over a year generally produces ~10% increase in performance. While the GT630/540 will also get newer drivers, they're already much more mature than the Trinity drivers and the gains won't be nearly as significant.

    You're right that the A10's are too expensive, though. The manufacturers are overcharging for Trinity APUs and the notebooks that have come out have been either unattractive and expensive, attractive but too expensive, or cheap but unattractive. It's less of a case of AMD not producing a great chip, they did, Trinity beats out Llano in every single aspect at the same 32nm node, but rather that it's held back by its implementation by notebook manufacturers.
     
  13. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Most of the test what you have seen were run in medium to high settings. Once you put up the details High or Ultra +add Antialising and Anisotropic filtering 7660G will loose less FPS than gt630M and turns the race over.
     
  14. link626

    link626 Asus GL502VM, Lenovo Y580, Asus K53TA

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    There is no race in the high or ultra settings, because for both the 7660g and gt630, high and ultra are unplayable with single digit frame rates.
    so there is no point comparing ultra and high settings. No one is going to try to play games on high-ultra settings at 10fps

    in the playable medium-low settings, gt630 clobbers 7660g. hands down.
     
  15. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Really? Because their are certain games that even 6620G can handle in ultra details near 35FPS. Like Call of Duty 7 Black Ops is the one, I believe will take Modern Warfare 3 as well near maxed out graphics ;). 7660G +30% circa.
     
  16. davidricardo86

    davidricardo86 Notebook Deity

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    In bold: Well said mrpelo! Well said.
     
  17. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Why are you guys even arguing about that? Getting the i7 and not spending the $75 to get the 650m with the intention of gaming is a horrible and uninformed choice. A better comparison would be with the i5 and 650m which would win hands down.