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    HP Pavillion dm3 Notebook

    Discussion in 'HP' started by chrixx, Sep 5, 2009.

  1. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    The HP Pavillion dm3 will be one of a series of updated HP Pavillion consumer notebooks that HP will launch in conjunction with Windows 7. These notebooks will be announced in the coming weeks and should be available upon Windows 7's official launch on October 22nd.

    The HP Pavillion dm1 and dm3 mark HP's first foray into the consumer CULV platform, directly competing with Acer's successful Timeline series. Prices suggested here will be competitive with Acer's offerings.

    HP Pavillion dm3 Tentative Specifications
    ETA: Mid September 2009, shipping October with Windows 7
    13.3" HD Display (1366x768)
    Intel CULV, AMD Athlon Neo platforms
    AMD HD 3200/3410 graphics
    HDMI, USB/eSata, no optical drive
    Ultra-thin design
    1.8kg
    Chiclet keyboard
    Brushed aluminium highlights/HP Imprint

    The other notebooks to be launched in the consumer range include:
    dm1 - 11.6" CULV
    dv6 Refresh
    dv7 Refresh - new i7 mobile CPU configurations
    dv8 - 18.4" entertainment notebook with i7 mobile CPU

    Additional Notes:
    No information on HDX updates yet, but the dv7 and dv8 will now overlap the HDX series, especially with new HD resolutions expected to be offered.
    A 13.3" commercial notebook counterpart to this is also expected.
     
  2. gauden44

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    Ohh nice, it looks like it's almost metallic? It'll probably be plastic though :(. Looks like it might be thin enough to have no optical drive either? We need more details!
     
  3. Jayayess1190

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    Looks very nice. In this thread, a DM1 is mentioned, hopefully it is the 11.6" model. :D
     
  4. Phil

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    chrixx, thanks for posting. What is the source of your information?
     
  5. Phil

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    More information and European prices:

    HP PAVILION DM1-1020ED C2D SU2300 320GB 2GB 11.6IN W7P NL € 481,89

    HP PAVILION DM3-1010ED NEO MV40 320GB 2GB 13.3IN W7P NL € 577,09

    HP PAVILION DM3-1020ED C2D SU2300 500GB 4GB 13.3IN W7P NL € 677,11
     
  6. chrixx

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    The single core processors are kind of disappointing.
     
  7. Phil

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    The SU2300 is dual core though. I guess it won't be long before AMD's Dual Cores are used too.
     
  8. chrixx

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    Ahh, the SU was misleading. Apparently the SU2300 is dual core. It will have a dual core AMD Neo processor too.

    The dm3 will be built on the same platform as the dv2, so will also likely feature HD 3200/3410 GPU and HDMI.
     
  9. MGS2392

    MGS2392 NAND Cat!

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    Wait does this mean hybrid graphics, or a choice between the 2 when purchasing?
     
  10. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    Only one. I believe we're expecting either of these as this is based off the dv2 platform.
     
  11. GENETX

    GENETX Notebook Geek

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    I don't think you'll get the HD3200. The dv2 doesn't use the M770 chipset afaik so will have the X1270 igp instead og the HD 3200. So no hybrid.
     
  12. Wanderermy

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    **** I just bought dv3t ...
     
  13. Jayayess1190

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    This is less powerful, with this you would be trading cpu power for battery life.
     
  14. Wanderermy

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    Would the performance noticeable? I love the chiclet style keyboard and long battery life in a laptop.
     
  15. Jayayess1190

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    Yes, you have a lower front side bus speed, less L2 cache, and a slower clockspeed. For example my brother has a Vaio SR with a P8400, and my Acer has an SU9400.

    Differences between our computers:

    Speed
    P8400=2.26GHz
    SU9400=1.4GHz

    Front Side Bus Speed
    P8400=1066mhz FSB
    SU9400=800mhz FSB

    Amount of L2 Cache
    P8400=3mb l2 cache
    SU9400 =3mb l2 cache

    Power Usage
    P8400=25W
    SU9400=10W

    Graphics Power
    His SR=ATI 3470
    My 3810T=Intel GMA 4500

    In my computer I knew I valued battery life over speed and power, thats why I bought it.
     
  16. CLB-NL

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    And is there anything known more about the DM1?

    Will it have HDMI?
    What kind of screenresolution will it have?
    What kind of screen will they use? Glare / matte?
    What will it look like? A smaller version of the DM3?
     
  17. purell

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    They need to do better like put in a SU4100 or su9400 in there and make it weigh 3.5 lbs or lighter.
     
  18. Phil

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    For normal usage: no. Only CPU intensive applications like calculations will run faster on the DV3.

    HDMI, 1366*768, Glare, yes.
     
  19. CLB-NL

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    And a link?
     
  20. chrixx

    chrixx Product Specialist NBR Reviewer

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    No links as the HP web site will be updated in due course.
    But you can expect that all Pavillions will have LED Brightview displays (glossy like your mirror), 1366x768 resolution (the new 1280x800), competitive pricing, HDMI and Intel/AMD options.
     
  21. anarchitecton

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    what no dv3 refresh like the dv6 and dv7? :(
     
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    IT getting a touch screen.
     
  23. atlr

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    Noticed today that the HP DM3T USA page shows the discrete GPU option for the DM3T (DM3 with Intel CPU) is the Nvidia G105M. I wonder how much lower battery life will be versus having solely the Intel 4500MHD.

    http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&series_name=dm3t_series


    The DM3Z with AMD CPU has an integrated Radeon 3200 and a discrete GPU option of the Radeon 4330.
    http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Brand&v1=HP+Pavilion&series_name=dm3z_series&jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/psg/notebooks/HP_Pavilion/dm3z_series
     
  24. teeth_03

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    whoa,its up for sale,w00ters
     
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    The dm1 is AWOL. =/
     
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  27. RetroEvolute

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    Bought the dm3t just earlier today. Really excited to get it... Too bad it'll be about 2 weeks. Estimated build date is Oct. 28th.
     
  28. ckthepilot

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    anyone care to explain the differences between the dm3t and the dm3z? Looks like the intel one is $100 more expensive??? Is it worth getting the dm3t over the dm3z?
     
  29. bobthenailer

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    well, depending on the model you go for, the most expensive Intel model (the one with the SP9300, 2.26ghz with 6mb L2 Cache) will very likely be noticeably faster as far as the CPU goes, I really can't say graphics wise for the high end (ATI HD4330 vs, Nvidia G105M, probably going to be close). I would want to see some benchmarks on the lower end, slower Intel CPUs, they probably are going to end up being faster than the AMD Neos but possibly not by much. At the low end as far as graphics goes, the ATI HD3200 is definitely better than the Intel 4500. So in conclusion, I say if you are going for a spec'd out one, get the Intel. Low-end/low-price wait and see for the benchmarks but I am leaning AMD. Middle end really depends on how fast the Intel CPUs are and weather or not its worth it to get them and weather the CPU is more important to you than the graphics.
     
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    if I go for the spec'd out dm3t with the nvidia g105m, will it decrease the battery life dramatically?
     
  31. bobthenailer

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    I would say most likely, as the SP9300 uses more power. I am thinking the G105 would as well as it has its own memory. How much it effects the battery like really remains to be seen but I will say that it will be a sizable difference compared to say the base model Pentium which IIRC has a 10 watt TDP. I know there are other things to measure power consumption besides TDP but you get the idea. I would still say pull the trigger on the high end Intel one. It all depends on how important battery life is to you. They are saying 10 hours on the base model dm3t apparently, so I would say worst case scenario on the high end one you would get 5 or 6.
     
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    on the specs for the sp I think I read it uses 22watts as opposed to the 10 of the su and the 18 of the neo, so with the higher end intel you might be looking at closer to the 6 hour batter life maybe.

    as far as the graphics go, the g105 is slower than the ati 4330 but not by a ton, a couple hundred less on 3dmark 05 and 06 iirc.

    processor wise, everything I read(bencmarks and specs) was showing to me indication that the intel su7300 was a decent bit better in power than the neo x2.

    I decided to go with the su7300/g105m as I think it will perform a little better or the same with better battery.
     
  33. Daekwan

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    HP issued a general expection of 6 hours with discrete GPU.. and 10 hours with integrated GPU.

    I would assume this would mean 10 hours only for the Intel with integrated 4500. The Intel with the G105 will probably only run at 6 hours too.. given the more powerful processor and seperate GPU.
     
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    so that means with the discrete gpu, the battery life between the 2 types will be like the same? :/ kinda feel lied too, I assumed that the intel has switchable graphics like the ati or something like that to claim the 10 hours.
     
  36. RetroEvolute

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    My educated guess at battery life is this:

    SU4100/SU7300 w/ 4500MHD:
    ~10 Hours

    AND Neo w/ ATI:
    ~6 Hours

    SU4100/SU7300 w/ NVIDIA:
    ~7 Hours

    SP9300 w/ NVIDIA:
    ~5 Hours
     
  37. kanehi

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    Saw the dm3 online and at least you have a choice of AMD or Intel. I was wishing it had a touch screen because I think it's the way of the future. With all the options I wanted it came close to 1K! Will wait awhile 'till the prices comes down. The Envy's looks nice too but again it's very expensive.
     
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    So, Ive read numerous post saying that the AMD version of DM3 has switchable graphics if you go with discrete graphics. Thats mainly what made me go with the Ati 4330.

    Anyone have a official link to it saying that, though.
     
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    I spent last 30mins reading the service manual linked in the other thread ( http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01893277.pdf ). If I see correctly, power supply plug seems compatible with dv5 (and dv7, dv6) and business models?

    This would be welcome news to me, since I have couple HP business laptops and one dv5 already. Less worrying with power supplies.

    As far as I remember dv2 had different power plug when I looked it in local shop, it looked like ones used in dv6000- and dv9000-series.
     
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    My dm3t

    HP Pavilion dm3t Entertainment NB
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
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    • 13.3" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
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    $685.99 after Bing 25% Cashback
     
  41. atlr

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    removed duplicate info
     
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    Does anyone know how the high end Intel option (the SP9300) compares to some of the high end options available in the dv3t series, such as the P7550 or the P8700. The only differences from what I can see besides teh minimal frequency differences is that the SP9300 has 6MB cache, compared to 3 on the two P series.

    Is there anything else I'm missing. Is one series more efficient than the other?
     
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    My guess is that it probably has something to do with the motherboard. The more options you offer, the higher the cost because of having to manage inventory for multiple parts.
     
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    Hi. I am planning to buy a 13.3 inches notebook and I am hesitating. I find this HP dm3 with intel/nvidia combination interesting but I would need to completly deactivate the G105M from BIOS since I plan to use linux with it. With linux it will be impossible to switch graphic card by software unhopefully.
    So please, could someone tell me if there is an option in the BIOS to deactivate the G105M, or if there is only a switch from "discrete" to "switchable", like in ACER *810t line notebooks ?

    And also, another question is : are they bluetooth-equipped ?

    Thank you for giving me this information, this is very important for me for the choice of the notebook.
     
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    Bluetooth is an option that you can add on. It's $25 additional.
     
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    I'm wondering if the SU7300 will play back online video like netflix and ABC. Will it do blu-ray? I bought a DV2 with a NEO cpu and it couldn't play back netflix it pegged the cpu to 100%, i had to return it, to me it was a pricey netbook. I'd much rather get the SU series instead of the SP as it's 15 less watts.
     
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    @atseng : thank you for this part of the question.

    But what about the discrete GC ? Is it possible to switch to the integrated one in the BIOS ? I mean, an option which says you are on the integrated GC, and not on a kind of "switchable" mode that need a software action to switch off the NVidia GC .
     
  49. nickem

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    The SU7300 will play back online videos without a problem. Even I can do it on my very old inspiron 1300 with a Centrino M processor
     
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    I played back netflix perfect on my dv2 and also on a mini 311 with atom. I'm guessing you had an issue, the vista on the dv2 was horrible and killed my system so I put on xp though, maybe that was the difference, not sure
     
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