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    HP Pricing/ Spec Question

    Discussion in 'HP' started by ArthurofChicago, Aug 10, 2007.

  1. ArthurofChicago

    ArthurofChicago Notebook Consultant

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    The dv9500t dropped in price around July 1, 2006. Any indication of a price drop in the near future or an upgrade in specs? Only some minor tweaks have occured ie modified hard drive offerings.
     
  2. SP Forsythe

    SP Forsythe Notebook Evangelist

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    Any indication?

    How about 30+ years of history of dropping prices on every personal computer ever introduced. Yes, the price will drop.

    The only thing that depreciates faster than a computer, is toilet paper and diapers.
     
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    darktehnub Notebook Consultant

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    No, I bet you can buy a roll of toilet paper and sell it in 5 years for around 50% of its original price, assuming that it's not soiled and that we still use toilet paper in 5 years. However, a laptop's probably going to be worth maybe 5%?
     
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    Depreciation implies decrease in value upon first use.
     
  6. SideSwipe

    SideSwipe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Um July 1 2006? I dont think the dv9500t even existed back then :p

    SP Forsythe you are wrong about one thing, second hand food/toilet paper and diapers depreciates ALOT faster, cuz once its used it aint gonna be sold for 0.1% of its value ;)
     
  7. ArthurofChicago

    ArthurofChicago Notebook Consultant

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    Yes 2007.

    Thanks for the 20% coupon tip. It beats the APP price. I'll use a seperate HP $50 off coupon for the extended warranty purchase.
     
  8. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Not really. Depreciation implies loss of value over time, but doesn't specify the source of that loss of value. For example, you buy the hottest new notebook just as it's released; however, the manufacturer is having supply problems, so the price increases due to scarcity. Three months later the supply problem is corrected and there is a subsequent oversupply, as a result of which the system is now selling at a discount due to oversupply. Your system has lost value even if you kept it all wrapped up in the original packaging and never once used it.

    Second, depreciation is not necessarily linear; value may not decrease at all for use below a certain amount, and may then decline precipitously once that threshhold is hit.

    The model of depreciation you may be thinking about is new car depreciation, where you can lose several thousand dollars just for driving it off the lot. That sort of depreciation is probably also more market-driven than due to actual loss of intrinsic value, particularly since there is no necessary correlation between the miles on the odometer and the loss in value.
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I would suspect, based on having spent several summers looking for new notebooks for several different family members, that the current model will either get a price drop when the new back-to-school line-up is officially launched (what I've seen so far looks more like the pre-back-to-school line-up, intended to clear inventory for back-to-school sales), or else when the back-to-school sales frenzy slows when most students are back in classes and have already made the bulk of their school-related purchases. Maybe late August, early September.
     
  10. ArthurofChicago

    ArthurofChicago Notebook Consultant

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    $1,483.98 - Thanks, the 20% off coupon NB2749, beat the APP discount. The same machine was $500 more on June 15, 2007 (bought then returned due to a defect) and about $250 less then on 7-13-08 when I put in for a price protection refund.
    Configured as follows:


    Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
    Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor T7500 (2.20 GHz, 4 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
    17.0" WSXGA+ High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050)
    $50 Off upgrade from 1GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) to 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    511MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS
    HP Imprint (Radiance) + Fingerprint Reader + Webcam + Microphone
    Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection and Bluetooth(TM)
    200GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (100GB x 2)
    FREE Upgrade to LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support!!
    No TV Tuner w/remote control
    High Capacity 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)
    Microsoft(R) Works 8.0