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    *HP dm3 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by ubercool, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. TommyB0y

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    I had theorized the L625 "Turion" with the extra power state would match up with the 780G chipset best for power savings, wonder if that will pan out.
     
  2. scottybgood

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    If it's not too late...the purchase choices you list are the Sony CW and the DM3z. Let me start off by saying I've been agonizing over these two laptops myself as to which one I should purchase, and also including the Asus UL80vt as well..here are my thoughts...

    First I would say if you have a price restriction and you don't do much hard core gaming, I would say get the DM3z...I don't think you'll find a lighter, more powerful laptop on the market at that price point. But if you can go up in price, then you might consider the Sony CW..I've been reading alot about both the Sony CW and the DM3 and I am leaning toward getting the Sony, here's why...

    Touchpad-I really like the touchpad on the Sony, nice and smooth, finger glides over it easy. And I don't like the touchpad on the DM3, it grabs at my finger and won't let is slide very well. I know that folks have said to just get a little oil from you skin on it, etc so then it will slide better...but I want a touchpad to work out of the box, whether it's clean or dirty and whether I put light or hard pressure on my finger or whether my finger is sweaty or dry. And the Sony fits the touchpad bill for me. The Sony touchpad is more like the Dell Inspiron touchpad I've used over the years, as far as smoothness, and that is the kind I like.

    Graphics Card- For $50 more, and downsizing the hard drive a bit from 500GB to 320GB, as compared to the Bestbuy config you gave the link too, you can get this same exact CW configuration from Sonystyle.com except with a GT230M Graphics Card, versus a G210M. The 230 is quite a bit better card, being that it has 48 shader cores and 128bit bus speed, versus the G210M has only 16 shaders and 64bit bus speed. Of course if you don't game much, you might not care as much. I don't game that much, but I just want the extra power for the few games I do like to play, like GRID and NFS, and so the laptop doesn't get outdated as fast and just in case I might need more power in the future for something I decide to run...to me it is better to have too much power than not enough. PS, I plan on adding the P8700 Processor to the CW config as well, partly because it has Virtualization capabilities build in, where the T6600 does not. I want to be able to run the "Windows XP Mode" in windows 7, if need be.

    Screen size- I prefer the 14" size screen of the CW over the DM3 13 inch.

    Laptop Style/Appearance-Personally I really need to like the appearance of the laptop I buy and I don't really like the appearance of the DM3 nearly as much as the Sony...one thing I don't like about the DM3 is the chrome strip around the bottom front edge, it looks kind of cheap and tacky to me, with an uneven gap in it, at least that is how it was in a few I've seen around a couple of stores. Also there is not "Color" on the DM3...I especially like to have a colored laptop (CW has 5 color choices)...I especially like the Royal Indigo color myself, available on SonyStyle.

    Heat Issues- From what I've been reading on this forum and other forums the palm rest(s) get a bit too warm on the DM3, but I've also read that some don't have any issue with heat, I guess it is debatable. Though from what I read on the "Official Sony Vaio CW Series Owner's Thread" forum there appears to be no noticable heat issues with the CW.

    Optical Drive-The Sony CW has an internal Blue Ray drive and the DM3 doesn't have one at all.

    Other bells and whistles the CW has over the DM3. The CW has a "One-Touch Web Access" button, which allows you to jump on the web in a few seconds without booting up Windows 7; also the CW has a button to turn on and off the monitor/screen which I thought was cool and I've never seen on a laptop before.

    -Battery Life- From what I read, the CW gets about 3 to 3 1/2 hours configured with the GT230m card, which is pretty good considering. But not quite as good as the DM3z...I think it gets 2 or 3 more hours than the CW. If I "REALLY" cared about battery life, I'd probably go with the UL80VT anyway, since folks get as much as 10 hours on it, and it has switchable graphics like the DM3z. But when it comes to battery life, this is how I look at it, 90% of the time I use my laptop at home, so if the battery goes dead I can easily plug it in. Also I figure most laptops I've had in the past, within a year or two, the battery usually starts loosing it's ability to hold a charge and I end up having to eventually keep the thing plugged in all the time anyways, since I can never talk myself into spending $100 or so to purchase a new battery. So after the battery goes out, what do you have left? Well I want to have a more powerful computer left. I guess I'm the kind of laptop user that likes to buy and hold so to speak for many years.

    Weight- The CW weighs about 1lb more than the DM3 4.2 lbs versus 5.3 lbs, but you get a bigger screen and an Optical drive with the CW.

    The bottom line for me is to have a fairly thin and light, but as powerful as possible, laptop for under $1000 and that looks "cool" to my eyes and for me the Sony CW fits the bill. At least it does today, but I will admit I've gone back and forth a bit, mostly I've been wrestling more between the UL80vt and the CW more than the DM3, mainly because I like the bit bigger screen size. I'm hoping that the CW will go on sale for black Friday, so maybe I can get a couple hundred off!

    That's my 2 cents...
     
  3. pasta4u

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    dragon age is 20-40fps with frame buffer effects off and graphics detail very high and texture detail high.

    Its def cpu bound though.
     
  4. howard911s

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    Thanks for the longgggggggggggggg and useful response! I just finished reading 37 pages of sony vaiio CW owner's lounge there are tons of info in there. Apparently the GT 230M in sony CW is also DDR 3 not the wimpy DDR 2 version. 2 years ago I had Dell XPS 1530 which had 256mb 8600GT DDR 3, 128 bits, 32 stream processor that played COD 4 at 1440 x 900 resolution flawlessly.

    With GT 230M 512mb DDR 3 and 48 stream processor, it should have no problem handling modern warfare 2 at 1366 x 768 native resolution. Also there is a 7% student discount for the CW series which would knock the price down some more and having a blue ray drive is a big plus.


    As for DM3....it is aluminum beautiful, thin.. light.... and double the battery life of CW is the big big plus and also quite a few hundred bucks cheaper thats why I'm agonizing over it. For the moment I'm leaning toward CW but the long battery and metal finish is beautiful......gotta sleep on it and thank you again for the response.

    PS: I have a feeling you and I are both kinda leaning toward CW for 1 simple reason... (optical/blue ray drive)
     
  5. pasta4u

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    you do know running a bluray drive is going to burn up to another 5watts while your accessing it. So watching a movie is going to really hurt.


    Its really a choice between portability and peformance. the graphics card in the sony will be better for games. But you have almost no battery life and do you really want to lug that giant laptop around ?
     
  6. howard911s

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    And you are absolutely correct, it is portability vs performance.......as for weight its no problem, I'm used to lugging dell xps and asus gaming laptop around + 3 lbs laptop bag + 1 lb charger + book + water around campus lol so weight for sony is not a problem. What bothered me was the bulk of all those. Sony and HP neither one will be as bulky as the said package. right now it comes down to

    optical vs none
    2.5-3 hrs battery vs 4-5 ....
     
  7. scottybgood

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    I guess the fact is I don't really "lug" my laptop around, except from the office to my living room...or if I go on vacation somewhere which only happens every so often. Anyways to me 1 lb difference between the two laptops isn't that much, especially since I'm use to lugging around my older 14" Inspiron that weighs in at 6.9lbs, so 5.3 feels pretty light to me...I guess my vantage point is a bit different. I will admit having more battery life would be nice...this is part of why I haven't made my final decision yet either. Thanks for this forum, giving me a place to air my thoughts, I appreciate it!
     
  8. howard911s

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    My thoughts exactly, sony is nice, 5.3 lbs is not heavy etc etc... having DDR 3 ram 512mb video ram and blue ray drive is nice but with sony, where u go, power cord goes..

    With DM3..where it goes.. power cord can stay home........ :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: I'm confusing myself more.. sigh

    PS: Also one predicament is. if I get those SU 9300... or those high powered cpu, this laptop will be too expensive without dvd drive and good video card. The bestbuy and office depot cheaper version is nice but with those lower powered cpu, more program on it will burden it more. I have no doubt it will burden the system and slow it down more in the near future.....
     
  9. scottybgood

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    Oh one more thing, I'm attempting to have only one Computer for all my computing needs in one Laptop, so this is part of why Power is important to me, more than long battery life and I'm not in school, and don't drink coffee and work on the computer all day, so I'm not about to lug my laptop away from my house...sounds like you have plenty of powerful computers already... so maybe the DM3z is a good fit for you...I on the other hand don't have other computers, except for my "work at home" company computer, which I'm not suppose to use for personal use.
     
  10. pasta4u

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    you should really just build a gaming pc then. You'd save a ton of money.


    As for the optical drive you can simply get an external optical drive they aren't very expensive and i doubt you would actually use the optical drive often.


    I personaly just rip all my blurays and back them up to an external 2TB hardrive on my desktop and then can just stream what I want .

    But everyone has diffrent needs. I would never buy a laptop as my main gaming rig. It wont be very long till you can't play new games on it. COD MW 2 might work well on that laptop but what about the next big game after that ? OR heck the next cod that will be out next holiday season ?
     
  11. howard911s

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    Oh the CW will be your primary computer?????

    actually I like to buy and sell computers, so I dont have those gaming computer anymore. My home set up now is a self built machine with core i7 920 quad cpu. 6 GB ddr 3 ram and a ATI 5870 card that cost me 430 bucks!!! (don't judge)...... so laptop I'm looking for is my 2ndary computer.........I know ur gonna say just get DM3! and its a sensible choice, but sony is so pretty too lol
     
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    Questions for the people who did the battery life test: did you guys test it after charging battery until the battery light went off or the battery meter in Windows said 100%?

    If you test the battery life after meter said 100% ... can you retest it after you charge the battery (while the laptop is off) until the battery light went off? Muchas gracias!
     
  14. scottybgood

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    For Howard911s and anyone else interested...here is an review in the owners lounge of the UL80vt as compared to the DM3z, and Studio 14z...
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5487355#post5487355
     
  15. chosenone34

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    Hello everyone, happy owner of the DM3 1080 here in France. I have been following this discussion for a while, and was wondering if anyone has tried to overclock the dm3 1080 (intel SU7300) using SetFSB or another tool? I'm happy to try it, but I would need to know what PLL chip is installed...
     
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    scottybgood, I owned the Asus UL80V (not Turbo) for a day, and sent it back for bad build quality, keyboard flex, fingerprints and more importantly, too much noise whenyou push it a bit (games). The dm3 fares much better in that respect...
     
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    ubercool, can we get some updates to the first post?
    DM3-1030US does have BT on board.
    Also, I will be receiving my SP9300/105M model tomorrow, would like to see some updates on WEI and other benchmarking scores for the different retail/CTO models consolidated in the initial post. Willing to help...

    Can anyone comment on real life battery times of the SP9300/105M config?
     
  18. scottybgood

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    Post number #673 gives SP9300/105M battery life test, as well as WEI scores.
     
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    Hi guys, I live in the UK and am considering getting the DM3. I spent over an hour last night reading all 70 pages of this thread!

    Unfortunately, they only sell one model in the UK ( http://www.dabs.com/products/hp-dm3...minium-4gb-320gb-windows-7-premium-6909.html). I really want the l625 and Radeon 4330 upgrade and you can't get that here. Sooo, I'm getting a friend in San Jose to order me one and ship it over. It's gonna cost me an arm and a leg to do it but I want this laptop to be perfect.

    Has anyone used the skinstyler on the trackpad, I'm already thinking of ways to make it better as I anticipate it being the only thing about the laptop that will annoy me! Thanks.
     
  20. pasta4u

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    The problem with the comparisons is cost. Yes it performs better. But the cheapest I can find the asus is for $850. My laptop cost me $660 with the 4330. So for siimple math we will just say the Asus is $200 more. HP gave free shipping. Newegg wants $14 bucks. Plus then I'm paying tax on $200 more. Which is going to add another $14 over the hp price. So we are looking at $228 bucks for the upgrade to the asus.

    I much rather take that $228 and get an ssd
     
  21. pasta4u

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    This is not a smart thing when it comes to games. You can build a $500-$800 quad core cpu with a 5770 and about 8 gigs of ram that would trounce even a $2000 laptop.

    Laptops should be used as secondary machines esp if your spending $1000 or less because even if these things play today games okay , next years games will play like .

    I picked up my dm3 knowing i'd have to play SW TOR on low settings when it came out. But My main pc has a quad core q9650 @4.2ghz for gaming with a 4850 1gig (next year going to upgrade to a 5850 2gig) with 8 gigs of ram and a ssd drive for faster performance (after the holidays i'm adding a second) This pc will run any game i throw at it with better performance than any of the laptops under $1500. Total I paid on it was $700 bucks and I spent that over the course of 2 years now. Gaming on a desktop is so much cheaper.
     
  22. pasta4u

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    I have the set up you want to order but with 3 gis instead of 4 and a 5200rpm 250 gig drive. So mine would be slower than 4gig model but the ram they install is cheap and I wanted to get something better. But if there is something you want tested before you order letm e know and I will try to do it for u
     
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    Agree with you, my desktop with i7 and ATI 5870 will kill any highest end alienware laptop at 4000 bucks and I know DM3 will fit my bill, just the cw's blue ray drive ddr 3 ram and full on duo core sounds so....tempting :D that's why I can' tdecide. How's your DM3 running like music, video, web browsing and office , speed and snappy compare with ur desktopwise? about the same? slower? noticeably>?
     
  24. pasta4u

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    Not sure its a fair comparison as I do have 8 gigs in my desktop 2 extra cores clocked at more than double the speed of this chip and an ssd.

    however the laptop has no problems surfing the web , videos take longer to load but i'm sure thats wireless vs gigabit wired connection to the router.

    I like it alot.

    I was going to get a 5870 but decided that my 4850 is able to play dragon age really well and there is no reason to upgrade at the moment
     
  25. Daekwan

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    Im not a superuser like some of you guys, but if anybody cares here are my results with my DM3z L335/3200HD/250gigHDD/3gRAM/WifiN+Bluetooth system.

    WEI scores:

    4.2
    4.9
    3.7
    4.6
    3.9

    I've did a complete format and put all the partitions together to make 100% of the HDD into C: drive Partition 0.

    Installed Windows7, 64bit Ultimate OEM
    Installed AIM, Yahoo IM, MSN Messenger, Utorrent, Adobe Flash, Adobe Reader, Firefox, Java, VLC player, iTunes + Quicktime

    Good:

    System boots to login screen in about 15 seconds. Shuts down in about half that time. Very reponsive in all applications. Battery does take a long time to fully charge while using it. I would estimate about 3 hours or so, but last over 5 hours surfing the web and IM'ing. WiFi signal is VERY strong. I was getting 2-3 bars with my 2 year old Acer notebook, this one gets 5 full bars. LED lights for Power, HDD, Network are white or blue, very classy very chic.

    All metal construction screams luxury. Very solid build, feels like an Apple product. LED backlight screen is super bright, super white and very crisp.. compared to my old laptop is makes it look dull and yellow. Keyboard is a joy to type on. More ports than I will ever be able to use, everything is included.

    I've tried playing samples of all multimedia I could find with no problem. Youtube HD, no problems there. Im not a Hulu user, so I didnt try that. Im not a gamer, so I havent installed any games. Although I might give COD4 or Modern Warfare2 a try.

    Bad:

    1) Notebook does get very warm on the left side as others noted. Not enough to make you burn or sweat. But it is uncomfortable to bare skin.

    2) Touchpad does not give a smooth experience. Even with oils built up on surface its not always a smooth, fluid motion. Pointer tends to stick at times. Taps & Doubletaps on the touchpad dont always register. Right & Left buttons hard to press. When typing sometimes pointer jumps around screen because of my wrist. I did load the Alps pointer driver, increased the speed of the pointer and that did help. Motion more fluid, taps & double tap register better. But you still get the feeling this touchpad wasnt an ideal solution. Definitely form over function.

    Its not absolutely frustrating experience, but it is irritating at times. Why HP didnt test it, or use a better, more tested solution Im have no idea. What I do know is I've never used a touchpad this finicky. Im sure if their engineers would have let some normal people use it, they would have heard the same complaints and made changes.

    3) Fan kicks up kinda loud when watching full screen video. Absolutely noticeable. This only happened when watching full screen video. 90% of the time this would never bother me.. but I can imagine in a quiet environment (bedroom, airplane, private office) this would annoy some people.

    4) Its not exactly "thin" or "light". It would better be described as "thinner" & "lighter" than a regular notebook.


    Other than that.. for $649 bucks, including Wifi-N, Bluetooth, ext DVD burner, 5+ hour battery life, and metal construction I cant think of a better deal. Overall Im VERY satisfied. Oh wait a minute.. I got in on the Bing.com 25% cash back deal.. and will recieve something like $162 back. Meaning this notebook utimately cost $487 bucks.. There is absolutely not a better deal around!!

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! :0)


    P.S. The metal construction and black chiklet keyboard does make it look much more expensive. Definitely has the looks of a $1000 notebook. I showed it to the girl Im dating and she simply could not believe the $649 price. She wants to order one next.
     
  26. Sbell

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    Yep, your understanding is correct. And, the 3 hour estimate seems to roughly hold true so far. I commute daily about 1.5 hours each way by train and was able to play the whole way home last night, leave the dm3 in sleep mode overnight (I'll hibernate next time, it dropped almost 10% over the 11 hours), play about another hour on the way in this morning and still have 12-14% battery life left. That was with the wifi/bluetooth turned off.

    In power saver mode doing light surfing and reviewing pdfs while plugged into an ethernet connection, it looks like I'm getting nearly 7.3 hours. I'm not as confident about that number though, since it's only based on an hour of use.

    I was strongly considering the Mini 311 too. My last laptop was a 12.3" Dell XPS and I loved the combo of the small form factor and decent graphics. The problem was just that at the time of my purchase, HP wasn't really offering many incentives to get the Mini. The price difference was small enough that it seemed to make more sense to get the dm3.
     
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    THANK YOU! this is the exact set up I m looking at from office depot 499.99 after 50 bucks rebate. So the fan is loud on yours? how about those HD movie trailer or downloaded trailer from online.. like game or movie trailer downloaded not streamed?
     
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    Thanks for the reply. I've ordered the exact same model as you by the sounds of it. 3gb ram, 250gb 5200rpm drive, l625 and 4330. I've forgone the 4gb ram, 320gb HD and external dvd drive to get the CPU and graphics upgrade.

    I figure that this upgrade will let me play a lot more games with the laptop, increasing the longevity of the machine. I won't really notice or miss the missing ram, HD and dvd drive.

    I just want to know about the trackpad and buttons really. If the buttons are stiff then I guess I'll have to deal with it but I want to know if there is a solution to the trackpad, like the skinstyler. Have you tried it, would you recommend it?
     
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    Thank you! Just what I was looking for and hoping to hear. dm3t sp9300 ordered. :D
     
  30. Daekwan

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    Howard our notebooks are very similar.. but actually arent 'exactly same' setups. Good news is, chances are yours performs even better than mine. I ordered mine custom built directly from HP. So where ours would differ would be:

    I have 3 gigs of ram, I believe you have 4.
    I have a 250gig HDD, again I beleive you have a 320gig.
    I also added the external DVD drive.

    Considering the money spent, you definitely came out with a great deal yourself. Probably a better deal considering you didnt have to wait for shipping and you didnt have to pay cash up front initially.



    To answer your question, when playing full screen video (and ONLY when playing full screen video). The fan noise does kick up pretty loud. If your in a location where is it is extremely quiet (private office, airplane, bedroom) then yes it would be annoying when this happens.

    Also this only happened when watching full screen video from websites. Assuming they were using Flash player.. which is CPU intensive (not GPU).. one would have to believe the CPU itself was being pushed to the limit and that would be why the fan was running so fast.

    As far as HD trailers or movie/game trailers. The indicator of how hard they would push the CPU would be are they using Flash player or another player.

    Its actually a worry that isnt a big deal, because word on the street is the next update to Adobe Flash player will make it share the workload between the CPU & GPU.. meaning the CPU wont be pushed as hard and hopefully will not need to kick the fan into high speed.

    Hope this helps!!
     
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    The battery test I ran was with Hulu playing full screen for maybe 2-3 of the full four hours. The rest of the time it was either not full screen, or waiting for me to start the next show / movie.
     
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    Thanks for the reply!

    1) So under normal surfing.....word/excel....listening to music, this laptop is quiet?

    2) As for the girl you are dating...I think she would be more impressed if you give your DM3 to her :D
     
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    On the trackpad, I noticed that when I first used it, yes it was very annoying, the pointer wouldnt even move without serious pressure. But after like 10 minutes it was all smooth. It may not only be a matter of oily, but temperature. I left it set in unheated room on the floor and next morning it was back to being annoying, but as had it in my lap and messed with it for a minute it was back to silky smooth.
     
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    Hey guys. I had a little bit of a hang up after waking my dm3t from sleep the other day (another one of the alps touchpad issues). Well, I uninstalled the driver, and went to install a fresh copy of the driver when I went to hp's website.

    HP's driver page for the dm3's have different drivers for the touchpad.

    dm3t= 1.00
    dm3z= 1.somethingelseI'dtellyouifhp'swebsiteweren'tactingup

    Needless to say, the driver for the dm3z was more up to date than the one listed for the intel dm3t. So, I installed that driver instead. Everything works a lot better, expecially multitouch.

    Just thought I'd let you guys know.

    Also, I'm not sure what exactly is going on here, but I have the SU7300, and it's supposed to run at 1.3GHz. Just checked CPU-Z and it's listing it at going at 1.6GHz.

    Fine by me. I still get approximately infinity battery life.
     

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    Daekwan Notebook Enthusiast

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    1) Absolutely quiet.. you wont hear the fan unless you are extremely sensitive to any type of noise.

    2) I would be more impressed if she bought her own.. lol
     
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    Quoted for truth. It blows me away (no pun intended.. heh) how quiet this thing is. I disabled 'fan always on' in the bios at the get go. Haven't seen the temps go beyond 35C even using it on my bed. The fan hardly ever even spins up.
     
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    How is your heat still? still very very hot?
     
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    Does the updated driver help it run smoother or is that an issue with the actual hardware. If so, has anyone found any solutions (oil, skinstyler etc.) to help?
     
  39. PsychDoc77

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    Quick question I was hoping someone could help me with.

    I have the 7300/G105 waiting for me at home when I finally get back there on Friday. I've heard that HP loads their computers with loads of needless crap that you don't need. I think the term is "bloatware" (like trial subscriptions to Norton, etc.).

    As I'm not a huge computer person could someone walk me thru a simple step-by-step explanation of what I need to do to remove this needless crap so the computer will run faster/more smoothly?

    Also what programs(s)/bloatware should I be looking to remove?

    TIA for any help you guys can give me!!
    ;-)
     
  40. creepinshadow24/7

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    pc decrapifier

    google it.
     
  41. aesis

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    OUT OF THE BOX, you can barely move your finger. I definitely understood the initial impressions, but after awhile, get your oils or wipe your nose with your finger and it's seriously not bad at all. The multi-touch is hit or miss; I found the scroll bars to be more intuitive.

    My only qualm with this computer is the touch pad because it could be a bit better. If I really care that much I may look into skinstyler but natural body oils are fine with me right now. Everything else is sooo great. I am extremely satisfied with my L625 / 4330 config, in spite of the touch pad.
     
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    The SU7300 can go from 1.3ghz-1.6ghz, but I think I've heard that the 1.6ghz might be just one core (taking snippets from what I've read from ul80vt owners). I can't wait as I'm getting another su7300/105m combo (studio 13z - looks worse and have to suffer dell customer care, but was cheap for UK prices) and I want to see what overclocking or undervolting I can do (if I can't do one I'll try the other). Sounds like excellent value on all amd and intel fronts for this machine, I'm incredibly envious of it's all metal looks - just seems so professional (and not plastic... meh)

    Anyone had any luck with the PLL for the su7300? If UL80vt owners can pimp that up to 2.13ghz then that's one hell of a lot of overclockability from a neat little cpu.
     
  43. Snurrzor

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    Anyone who could tell me if it's possible to run like HL2, CS:source and TF2 or less demanding games on the L325 with ati hd 3200. Is it even possible to run on low/medium settings with 800x600 or 1024x640? Not looking to have this as my main gaming computer but it would be nice to be able to take a short break from schoolwork from time to time.

    Is it worth getting the hd 4330 without switchable graphics or does it suck to much power while using it for music, webbrowsing, (movies) etc?
     
  44. howard911s

    howard911s Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Hey Daek, do you have any compressed HD file like AVI, MKV sort or even just downloaded high def game and video trailer you can play with your L335 + HD 3200 please let me know how it plays? there are other member that says its choppy, some said it was ok... u have the most similar set up I'm eyeballing.....please..!
     
  45. pasta4u

    pasta4u Notebook Evangelist

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    The 4330 is a switchable external card. The hd 3200 is part of the northbridge of the motherboard. So you can switch between them . It only costs the upgrade to the faster cpu and 4330.

    Also I can play left 4 dead 2 at 20-40 fps at high settings (look through my posts) Its using the same engine as half life 2 and what not only the game is coming out in a few months instead of 4 or 5 years ago

    half life 2 is no sweat with the 4330. Model detail high , texture detail high , shader detail high , water detail= reflect world , shadow detail high , color correction disabled. FSAA at 4x , anistropic filtering at 2x high dynamic range is full all at default screen ress of 1336x768 and i'm getting 60-110 fps
     
  46. Snurrzor

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    Ok, cool. And i won't loose battery life with this setup compared to less powerful model when running on the integrated graphics?
     
  47. Daekwan

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    Heat isnt that bad.. notebook doesnt gets warm enough where it is uncomfortable against bare skin, but other than that it doesnt get hot at all. As long as you have clothing on your legs, it is comfortable to use on your lap.
     
  48. Daekwan

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    None.. but find me a clip that I can download and I'll play it for you and let you know my results.
     
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    Sigh, everywhere I searched, tons of MKV files but all are torrent, wouldn't want you to do that :( but thanks.....
     
  50. pasta4u

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    So here is the deal.


    The radeon hd 4330 , 4530 and the 4570 are all the same gpu. The only diffrence is clock speeds even power consumption is about the same


    The 4330 has a gpu clock of 450 and a ram clock of 600mhz.

    The 4530 has a gpu clock of 500 and a ram clock of 700mhz

    The 4570 has a gpu clock of 680 and a ram clock of 800mhz.

    According to netbook check the 4570 is a low class 2 while the others are low and middle class 3 (higher the class the worse the card.)


    Right now I'm working on testing gpu clock speeds. My card currently is at 705mhz with no problems. If i can clock the ram to 800mhz then we really do have a great gaming machine.


    Yikes 725mhz and no porblems so far on the core...hmm it feels about as hot as it normaly does when playing a game.

    I'm going ot screw around and when i get to a good clock speed both on the gpu and the ram I will report back with some left 4 dead 2 and dragon age play throughs. Half life 2 is not important as I've basicly maxed out the settings at default clocks and was getting at points 150fps with 4xfsaa

    775mhz and climbing , going to stop at 800mhz if its stable.
     
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