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    HP dv6/dv7/Envy 17 Intel Sandy Bridge Discussion

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. justinkw1

    justinkw1 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Doing my usual digging inside of HP's FTP, I found some new graphics drivers that HP will release for the new Intel Sandy Bridge versions of the dv6, dv7, and Envy 17 notebooks.

    You can download the Softpaqs directly from HP:

    ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp50501-51000/sp50640.exe
    ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp50501-51000/sp50641.exe

    The driver INF files inside give us some very good hints as to what graphics options will be available for these new notebooks.

    Part of SP50640's INF:

    Code:
    [ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1]
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470" = ati2mtag_ManhattanP, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E0&SUBSYS_1448103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 " = ati2mtag_ManhattanP_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E0&SUBSYS_144A103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470  " = ati2mtag_ManhattanP, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E0&SUBSYS_1449103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470   " = ati2mtag_ManhattanP_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E0&SUBSYS_144B103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470    " = ati2mtag_ManhattanP_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E0&SUBSYS_149C103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650" = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_144A103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 " = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_1448103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650  " = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_1449103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650   " = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_144B103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650    " = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_149C103C
    "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850" = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A1&SUBSYS_144D103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370"[/B] = ati2mtag_ManhattanP, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E4&SUBSYS_1639103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370 "[/B] = ati2mtag_ManhattanP_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E4&SUBSYS_163C103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370  "[/B] = ati2mtag_ManhattanP, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E4&SUBSYS_163A103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370   "[/B] = ati2mtag_ManhattanP_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E4&SUBSYS_163D103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370    " [/B]= ati2mtag_ManhattanP_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E4&SUBSYS_163E103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370     "[/B] = ati2mtag_ManhattanP, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E4&SUBSYS_163B103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550"[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_1639103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550 "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_163C103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550  "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_163A103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550   "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_163B103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550    "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_163E103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550     "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C1&SUBSYS_163D103C
    
    Part of SP50641's INF:

    Code:
    [ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1]
    [B]"AMD Radeon HD 6850M"[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A8&SUBSYS_159B103C
    [B]"AMD Radeon HD 6850M "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A8&SUBSYS_159B103C
    [B]"AMD Radeon HD 6850M  "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68A8&SUBSYS_159B103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570"[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1593103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570 "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1594103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570  "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1599103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570   "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1597103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570    "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1596103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570     " [/B]= ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_159A103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570      "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1593103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570       "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1599103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570        "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1596103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570         "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1593103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570          "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1599103C
    [B]"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570           "[/B] = ati2mtag_Manhattan_PXAI, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C0&SUBSYS_1596103C
    
    So far, it looks like we're going to see the following graphics configurations for the dv6 and dv7:
    • Intel HD Graphics 3000
    • AMD Radeon HD 6370M / ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6370 (for regular editions?)
    • AMD Radeon HD 6550M / ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550 (for regular editions?)
    • AMD Radeon HD 6570M / ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6570

    What's probably more exciting is that we now know what the Envy 17 will have, and that's the AMD Radeon HD 6850M.

    More exact specifications are not currently known yet, but that will probably soon change. :) Please feel free to comment and discuss!
     
  2. lc235

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    Thanks soo much for the post! I'm looking into buying a laptop early next year, so even a tiny hp leak makes my day haha! xD I really hope hp refreshes the envy 14 with sandy bridge and at least amd hd 6570m by the end of Jan 2011...
     
  3. Apoxxx

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    Thanks for the info, hoping for an Envy 17 3D with Sandy Bridge and HD 6850M, that would be an instant buy for me.
     
  4. Jose Polanco

    Jose Polanco Notebook Consultant

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    That's a perfect combination... i'm waiting for that relevant refresh....

    :D
     
  5. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    They did say that the Envy 15-1200 was going to have a switchable 5730 via these kind of files. That never came to be. I trust this with only a grain of salt. The only way I will know what is what is when they release actual specs on their website.
     
  6. Phinagle

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    HD6300M and HD6500M have already been up on AMD.com and they're rebrands of the Mob. HD5400 and Mob. HD56/700 GPUs. The VBIOS on these cards have been changed to add 3D Blue Ray support.

    There's a good likelyhood that HD6800M will also be a rebrand of the Mob. HD5800 GPU.


    The new GPUs that people will want to look out for are Seymour, Whistler, and Blackcomb which should have model numbers in the HD6400M, HD6600M HD6700M and HD6900M ranges.

    What will really be interesting is when HP updates their AMD dv6 and dv7 platforms with Llano. It'll be something if those machines keep their Hybrid Crossfire feature with an APU that has 10-11x the shaders that the current IGP has.
     
  7. Aetherlights

    Aetherlights Notebook Guru

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    its actually a very insignificant bump in gpu. This stupid naming makes people think a 6370 is better than a 5650. Why the hell does anyone need 512 or 1gb for those budget cards?
     
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    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    It's an advertising stunt.
     
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    Intel Sandy Bridge laptop goes on sale: HP Pavilion dv6-4103TX by VR-Zone.com

    The new HP dv6-4103TX with the Sandy Bridge i7-2630QM and ATI HD6570M GPU is already on sale over in Singapore. I've been interested in the Envy 17 3D but will wait and see if a new version with Sandy Bridge is announced at CES. I've had my current VAIO notebook over 3 years now. I can wait a bit longer.
     
  10. Bravoexo

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    Actually, I bought one at the nearby MicroCenter, but it's a DV7

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  11. hispeed4567

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    When you have the time, could you be able to do a review? Preferably on the battery life, graphics performance (if you can SCII), heat issues (if any), and screen quality.

    Edit: Also, does the 9-cell battery stick out of the laptop or is it level with the bottom of the laptop. Thanks.
     
  12. Bravoexo

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    Hmm, ok. I probably have time. Yes the 9-cell battery acts as a stump.

    [​IMG]

    An initial bench...
     
  13. dn00

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    How's the battery life?
     
  14. Bravoexo

    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    quoted a 5hr time for the 9-cell batt, but will test it out. I just had this last night.
     
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    jk6959 Notebook Consultant

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    wow looks interesting. The cpu is only a little bit below desktop i7's and the GPU is actually GDDR5! I want to see more GDDR5 GPUs as I'd like GPUs at their best without going into the extreme-enthusiast range...
     
  16. Phinagle

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    No switchable graphics support?

    Originally these cards were listed on AMD.com with support for Dynamic SG but after checking again it appears that the feature isn't listed on the specs anymore.

    Could be it'll have to wait for Catalyst 11.0 drivers to be enabled.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Im very interested in a show of the performance for the CPU, Im in dare need to replace my P7350 core duo, and a new notebook with some quality construction is what the doctor ordered
     
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    Already have my Crucial RealSSD 256GB ready, and just need a nice Sandy Bridge laptop to put it in. These are exciting days for us Notebook enthusiasts :)
    Sandy Bridge plus AMD HD6xxx are looking good so far, but it's all for nothing without switchable graphics, so I really hope for that.

    By the way: Do any of you guys know what kind of chipset we're looking at for the Sandy Bridge CPU's? I'm still hoping for 6gb/s SATA amongst other things.
     
  19. Aetherlights

    Aetherlights Notebook Guru

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    what about envy 14? any news on that?
     
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    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    @Apoxx, mine came with the HM65.
     
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    Will there be any difference in the performance of Dual-Core CPUs?
    Will there be any battery life increments?
    If so a Envy14 with 1600x900 Radiance screen with Blu ray drive would be perfect with SandyBridge :)
     
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    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    I forgot to post this... dunno if super pi still counts nowadays though he he

    [​IMG]
     
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    Wow that seems on par with 920xm and a little better than some desktop i5's / i7's according to notebookcheck
     
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    @bravoexo, how about heat ?
     
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    Also what is the battery life in normal use i.e web browsing or hearing to music?
     
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    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    @cyx,

    I've done some test on cpu and gpu load and temps. Looking at CoreTemp and GPU-Z monitoring. Running Heaven and SuperPi, the 4 cores reaches around 67-70C... idles at 45-47C

    GPU throttles at 300mhz on battery idle, 400mhz on plugged in idle, and 600mhz at full throttle+plugged in. idles at 54-57C...full reaches 67-70C.

    @amirtaraj, around 4-4 1/2 hrs on just that, running HULU straight was just under 4hrs (HP recommended profile, 100 full volume...went to 10% and then hibernated automatically.)
     
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    How is the gaming performance?
    Will GTA 4 run at native resl. fluently?
    Is there a USB 3.0 port?
     
  28. Bravoexo

    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    Unfortunately, AMD's latest mobility driver's don't support the HD6570 yet, but sees it as a HD5700 class chip. Game wise, some games will not work right with the stock driver (Huge freezing on driving games, like Dirt2 and Grid). Resolved with the latest drivers. FPS (Well, COD MW2) works though with the stock drivers.

    You can check out Dirt2 running... at a low 10-20% CPU load YouTube - Sandy Bridge i7-2630qm I don't have GTA4

    No USB 3.0 ports
     
  29. kozak_pl

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    Can you plese run some gpu benchmarks, such as 3dmark06 and 11, maybe vantage as well ?
     
  30. Bravoexo

    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh yeah, done that already

    Stock driver

    Result

    Latest drivers (non support by AMD natively)

    Result

    Vantage

    Result

    I'm gonna do 3dmark11 in a bit
     
  31. Bravoexo

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    3dmark11

    Result

    Unigine Heaven Benchmark v2.1 FPS: 12.1
    Scores: 305
    Min FPS: 2.8
    Max FPS: 30.1
    Hardware Binary: Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1500 Release May 21 2010
    Operating system: Windows 7 (build 7600) 64bit
    CPU model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2630QM CPU @ 2.00GHz
    CPU flags: 1995MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
    GPU model: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5700 Series 8.801.0.0 1024Mb
    Settings Render: direct3d11
    Mode: 1600x900 fullscreen
    Shaders: high
    Textures: high
    Filter: trilinear
    Anisotropy: 4x
    Occlusion: enabled
    Refraction: enabled
    Volumetric: enabled
    Replication: disabled
    Tessellation: normal


    HTH
     
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    Are you aware your purchase and pictures are on slashgear.com?
     
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    lc235 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not only slashgear, but several sites as well.
     
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    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Does Device Manager show the new Intel HD3000 IGP as being enabled? It's faster than a HD5450 as explained. Does it have the HM65 chipset?
     
  35. Bravoexo

    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    I will work on Geekbench when the Kinect party dies down here... (ha ha). (Not really worried on the pics... MicroCenter decided to pull out the 3 other stock they had anyway. (he he) Anyway... the intel part is not there (well, I'll try to look again... I'm on my sis' iMac 27 at the moment.) Oh yes it's an HM65 chipset
     
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    Does the new SB quad core processors have inbuilt graphics processor?
    Is the discrete one switchable?
     
  38. Bravoexo

    Bravoexo Notebook Evangelist

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    GeekBench on AC plug

    [​IMG]

    Link . . . Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC : Geekbench Result Browser

    @amirtaraj,

    It should, right? But I don't think it's used... it doesn't show up anywhere or do I know how to enable it if it was here... (even the Intel WiDi, I can't test ... I'm assuming it's just Intel's DNLA version, anyway...I don't have an HDTV at the moment anyway)
     
  39. Bravoexo

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    For reference,

    [​IMG]
     
  40. amirtaraj

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    Is there any option to switch the graphic card off from ATI control panel and anyway HM65 chipset will support for using switchable graphics.
    But I have a doubt of whether the graphic card or the driver supports the same.
     
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    The HM55 switchable graphics systems bootup with the Intel IGP AND the ATI GPU enabled with the IGP as primary. If the IGP isn't enabled on boot then there is no way to switch if over using the standard ATI drivers. I'd assume the HM65 system will use a similar setup.
     
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    well, I don't see it. I'll take a snap of the bios after the recovery discs are done writing.
     
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    Darn... ha ha It's a full circle.
     
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    Not here on mine. Though some features it mentions, like chiral scrolling is available already. (multiple finger tracking too, upto 3 for now)
     
  47. Bravoexo

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    Bios snapshots

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    All eyes on you!
     
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    I admit defeat....i7-2630QM eat my 920XM (overclocked) for breakfast...
    3Dmark 06, Vantage..its stock beats my 920XM overclocked..

    *Run away crying*~ :( (Hiding back at my Alienware Forum corner)

    my $1000 USD chip fails to hold the old i7 ground~
     
  50. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    life is just a sad panda aint it?

    or for some its happy time! Now I can ditch my old p7350 and get myself a nice quad...
     
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