*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Wow, thank you Baii, now I can convince my brother to test it

 

Use easyflash from bios, winflash is meh. (Don't flash if got warning though lol)

 

Coolsense set to coolest makes the CPU throttle. You should change that

 

I am given to understand FT locking can defeat Coolsense? Maybe not...or perhaps it is more aggressive on battery.

On the subject of cooling, I just ran a batch of videos through Handbrake. Average frame rate and average core clocks improved once it got warm enough to keep the fan working. About 15% improvement in performance. So this 2.2GHz is my sweet spot without repaste or cooling mods, a little higher and it takes too long for the temps/fan to stabilize under load.

AMD needs to seriously examine on-chip fan control and Catalyst fan profiles for laptops.

 

your bios is confirmed to work, for that I say thanks to you again

 

With CnQ turned off coolest doesn't throttle. But you have to use the unlocked modded bios to do so.

 

how do you guys get k10stat on startup without the admin pop up "do you want to run this?" ?

I have it set up on log in, and I dont really want to turn off the UAC settings

edit: i figured it out. =)

 

Laptop PC Power Adaptor EXA0904YH

it's a 90w brick.

same brick that powers i7 + gt540 asus laptops.

plenty of juice

 

Hey Wing,
That amd/compal trin lappie is actually coming to market. Look for it around June 9 or 10 along with several other releases. "suggested" Price on it is going to b right around 900 with the "good stuff" inside. I was hoping for 800.
On another front Asus is going to be putting out their own Ultrathin, also on the same timeline but will have several apu options starting with the E-450.
HP can't seem to make up their minds as to what they want to do, other than the low buck trin lappie they already let leak on the website that they then pulled just as fast They "may" be using the brouhaha to wrangle more bucks out of Intel.. Ivy bridge keeps slipping farther into the future, and trin just slaughters IB's graphics meaning that to compete with just the onboard trin graphics, intel has to put a dedicated graphics card on the boards..more money, higher therms, more real estate etc...They need Haswell bad.
MSI is getting closer and closer on their trin project..but rumblings from behind locked doors suggest a serious trin gamer machine on the way...and this one is clearly NOT an 'ultrathin' but an "in your face' fire breathing 15" high rez screen monster WITH an overclockable ati dedicated Reportedly the cooling is sooooo good on this thing, that they are seriously considering opening up the bios and letting the end users 'have at it' (very rough translation from the chinese . Compal also has built up an 'Alienware Class' gaming laptop proto, but it is massive...and it wasn't entirely clear that that wasn't a desktop trin and not a laptop version in that thing. The cooling is impressive, the fans move a chit load of air, and the power of the thing is simply over the top. It would take a pretty serious gaming tower to make a perceptual difference. I *think* my overclocked bulldozer dual Nvid 480 box would take it...but that runs a 1k powersupply... and the fact that I would even compare the two, should tell you pretty much just how strong this Compal can run. In the immortal words of that msnbc *news* weenie.." makes a thrill run up my leg" LOL.

New to the rumor circuit...Toshiba is behind closed doors showing not one but two trin based boxes...one a very elegant upscale 'ultrathin'...the other...
well, think Qosimo, with a twist

Lastly, spent some more time with some win8 weenies...and I have to admit, given what i've seen and know now, i may have to have to change my opinion.
Ms might actually be on the right track here...I have been told by some who have physically worked with it, that win8 on the new quad ARM type cpus, is pretty damned fast, pretty damned good, and REALLY "blurs" the line between tablet and pc implementations. AND, joy of joy, it appears that security was a primary concern in its development, the apparent goal being to get tablet and other mobile devices into the corporate IT budgets by ensuring interoperability AND enterprise wide security (android security by comparison is currently, well, major suckage). We will just have to wait and see, Unfortunately, till June, EXCEPT for the possibility of an April release from...well, let me hold off till after the party next week on that.

It looks like this is going to be a VERY interesting year indeed
..more to follow.
seer

 

That "blurs the line" is only on productivity applications, other than that I really doubt they even compare.

 

$900 for a Trinity laptop with a dedicated GPU is fine by me. If Trinity is good enough though, a 35W APU in a 13" may work just fine for me. I don't get to game much any more, and if the iGPU can manage newer games reasonably well at 720p, I'll be happy.

 

"Blurs the line" was intended to denote that the 'widows end user experience' on the tablet and other 'mobile' devices, is becoming more similar to that with which most are familiar on the desktop/laptop machines. Performance differentials vis a vis hardware etc. are of course, substantial, still- the point being its becoming easier to switch back and forth without changing the operational paradigm, and the performance on the stronger mobile devices is more than acceptable.

even the 17watt version can rock wing

seer

 

dv6 fan does kick in slower then k53ta, and it is much louder, I think it is cause by the shape of the exhaust.

 

the K53ta fan is bigger actually

 

that aswell, but the hp fan have a high pitch sound~~ I think it is because of th small holes, I actually can feel air moving out of the vent compare to the dv6

but then the dv6 is thinner and smaller I belive

edit : either i fail at putting back my dv6 or my paste fail, my fresh paste k53ta is a few degree lower in prime95 2.4ghz 1.15vid

 

Seems possible. I can barely hear my dv6 even when burning in. It takes a high sustained load before I notice it and the problem is easily remedied. (I game with big headphones anyway and put on music when it's compressing video.) Still quieter than my N280-based netbook, and cooler/quieter than most laptops I've handled.

Okay I'm definitely preferring my results with Crossfire ON in a few games, and OFF in a few others. Difficult to quantify but it feels more profound than a difference of 150MHz overclock on the dGPU. Since the Trinity chips should have onboard encoders, one great feature would be if video streaming from a game on the dGPU could be compressed at high quality by the iGPU before sending it to disk. My FRAPS runs are ~160Mbps, cutting that to 20 or less would be great. Still amazed that I can play above 30fps while recording.

 

Actually there's talk in the K53TA thread that some come with the 65W and some with the 90W brick.

Just multiply the voltage times the amps. For instance my Sony Vaio has a 19.5V brick that delivers 4.7A = 91.65W

 

90W for quad core i7 + GT 540? That has failure written all over it.

i7 = 45W TDP
GT 540 = 35W TDP

I know those don't equate exactly to power consumption but with fan and LCD and other components, that's really pushing the envelope.

 

Now plug back in dv6 got white screen ~~

 

3. sorry to my bro, this time you may need to wait till d3 out for your new computer ~~

 

picked up Company of heros and its expansions on amazon a few days ago.. love this game. =)

 

Yeah, I keep coming back to it.

 

i upgraded to catalyst 12.3, and now when OC with k10stat, reboot fails with "windows did not shut down properly" error on next boot up. Sometimes it freezes and shows a garbled shutdown screen.

If you set default clocks back before reboot/shutdown, reboot shutdown works fine.


anyone here upgrade to 12.3 cats and experience same problem?
k10stat oc + 12.3 cat = reboot fail
k10stat stock + 12.3 = normal


it's weird how when I had 12.1 cats, reboots would work even with cpu OC.
but switching between dynamic and fixed mode graphics with 12.1 cats would cause reboot hang.

with 12.3 cats, switching between dynamic and fixed mode graphics does not cause reboot hang.
but now I have reboot fail if running OC'd during shutdown/reboot.

 

hi guys.
Trying to o/c using afterburner at 12.3 drivers currently.
When setting the value from 0 to 1 in cfg file t enable overclock , afterburner doenst show any clocks.
tried different versions of afterburner with the same result.
Can not o/c only monitor temp and use.
Anyone knows why?
Any suggestion??

P.S.
macho bios is it only for dv6135dx or I can use it in dv6100sv?

Thank you

 

try the solution mentioned here:

Problem with 7950 and Trixx

 

no one here has reboot problem when running k10stat after installing 12.3 catalyst ?

 

most ppl stay with 12.1 or 12.1a ~~ we knew update = doom

 

This!!!^^^^

I'm sticking with 12.1a. Seems to work great for me, and only heard horror stories with newer drivers. I'm sticking with 12.1a until I know there's something of significance added and it's compatible.

 

I was really hoping trinity would work in this laptop... but after seeing the new specs released for the new dv6/7t, ivy bridge and gt 650m...... /drool... There are going to have to be some real upgrades to the new dv6z to keep up. (That or the price difference will be much greater).

It is going to be an interesting couple of months that is for sure.

Also looks like new DV6s come with a backlit keyboard. YAY.

 

hi all,

I have a a8 ld I just + 6620g with 6gb ram (4+2)

should I just swap out the 2 and get a 4 1333mhz? Or can I put higher ram speed in? I was going to buy some 1600mhz ram but if it doesn't run at that speed is there any point?

Whats the best setup for a a8 3500m? Cheers

 

I believe the NDA should be lifted next week on Ivy Bridge. Trinity should be in about a month. If Trinity doesn't shape up as they say, I'm going with a Sager Ivy Bridge notebook, of course, that's all predicated on battery life. They're supposed to support Optimus so battery life should be decent.

 

I hope Ivy lifts this month, then all the Kepler notebooks will start releasing.

 

Is trinity suppose to ship with dGPU? if not, amd probably will leave the dual graphic driver as is.

 

Just to inform that for us, the people using the a6 3400 processor, with a proper repaste (very little AS5 applied in both APU and dGPU) and removing the plastic thingies surrounding the processor is very possible to reach 3.0 Ghz with no worries, I'm at max 89.3° and average 87.9, at this speeds devil may cry 1,2 and 3 become very playable on the pcsx2 emulator, as well as many games that are not Zone of the Enders and Guilty Gear (I even have some eye candy activated like not native resolution and instead 1366x768 )

 

I think the only Kepler chip that's releasing right away is 660m. The 670m and 675m are still Fermi I believe.

There will be Trinity + dGPU as far as I know. Their initial push is just for Trinity I believe, so they can capture a large part of the slim and light notebook market.

I believe it. I'm capped due to voltage on my chip though. I get funny things happening at 2.9-3.0GHz though even though temps are < 80C. Probably some internal throttling as it approaches max Vcore. Wish I could get my hands on an A8-3550MX cheap.

 

Where I'm actually for an a6 3400 or an a8... doesn't matter as long it's quad core, if you find your a8 may I ask for you to sell me your old processor? it's mainly for my brother that has the k53t... but his model has the a4 and it's dual core, bottlenecking pretty much the 6650m that he has

 

Don't know if I will bite for a new CPU or not, but sure, if I do I'll let you know. Just waiting to see what comes of Ivy/Kepler and Trinity.

 

I thought the 640/650M were launching as well. The HP DV6t with 650M and an IVB quad looks to be a winner.

 

You are correct. What I meant to say is the fastest Kepler is the 660m. Brain to keyboard usually takes a diverted path.

 

Any of you guys here want to trade your Llano laptops for a Sager NP8690/Clevo W860CU? I've been looking to downgrade to something with a bit more battery but still somewhat game-capable. http://forum.notebookreview.com/not...dv6zqe-other-semi-portable-gaming-laptop.html

 

I really though that all i7s had 4 cores, but this one has two plus hyperthreading O_O

 

I did too, until I got this laptop. This i7-6XX series is the only i7 to have actual nehalem tech in it (does more per clock, i7 quads have older Core2 tech), and they are higher-clocked than the quads too, so there is a noticeable performance increase when compared to first gen i7 quads.

 

Only processors that have QM at the end are quad cores. an i7-2630qm is a quad but an i7-2620m is a dual core.

 

I am connected to a coffee shop from 500ft away, using 6135dx with stock wifi. This impresses the hell out of me because that place nerfed its wireless awhile back to deal with numbnuts in the parking lot. I opened the lid on this thing to do some light editing, BANG it connects and tells me I'm on a network that requires login. Just thought I'd mention it as long as I'm suddenly online. Maybe some of the z's have a bad antenna or bad wire connection, but mine has been a big upgrade over anything I've had before.

To the guy asking about his machine with A8-3500M: NO it will NOT use 1600MHz mem, just find a cheap 8GB 1333MHz pair on NewEgg and sell the 4 online. It's a safer bet because the power consumption and timings will be identical. Check HTWingNut's signature links. 6620G should give you an idea of game performance, and the tweaking guide will help if you want to use K10Stat for overclocking.

On that note, increasing voltage on my two lowest speeds actually IMPROVED wattage slightly. Seems that below a certain threshold the system struggles to force the transistors to function. 0.7000-0.7500, somewhere in that range is the best voltage for 800MHz (I think).

mbarry: I suspect that IF I had a better dv6 with the upgrades, I especially would not trade back to the other heat and battery life issues. Best bet would be finding a buyer through normal channels (who doesn't know about the HP's), then using the cash to get a nice new monster with upgrades and fresh warranty.

Played my Shogun 2 on a 40" TV yesterday. It was very nice. I've started dropping some setting to Medium for online play, new bigger armies were slowing me down. Now I need to get my own new flat panel TV...maybe.

Vect: Intel branding has been an huge NIGHTMARE. It settled down slightly but for a while i3's were 1/2 cores, i5's 1/2/4 cores and i7's 2/4 cores. Even now you can get i7's anywhere from 2/4/6 cores so the nightmare is not over yet. I'm bugged enough at AMD that some A6's are tricore parts, but I'm not the one coping with yields. Actual performance is still much easier to predict than jumping through Intel's hoops.

 

I've actually had my eyes set on the DV6z for awhile. I've been interested in Trinity, but AMD most likely will lock down OCing. I like to tweak stuff and mod, so the DV6 as is seems perfect. I was thinking of doing a couple of heatsink mods (namely bolting on a desktop GPU cooler) and OC the crap out of the processor.

 

Seems the A6 actually has a higher VMax than the A8, so it potentially may clock a bit higher with adequate cooling. MXs of any designation seem to have 1600MHz mem support and if you plan to OC then the iGPU will be your least concern anyway.

 

Bottom line, if you want to game using the integrated GPU, get an A8 MX CPU because it will have the 6 620G + 1600MHz which is the best performance you can get in the IGP. A6 MX has 6 520G + 1600MHz, A8 M has 6 620G + 1333MHz. I don't think anything faster than 2.4-2.6GHz really has much bearing on gaming, unless you have other reasons to run it much faster. I think 3.0GHz is pretty much the ceiling for all the CPU's, those with extensive cooling mods, and a lucky CPU may be able to push 3.2GHz, but probably not much more.

 

There's always the chance that extreme cooling would lower the required voltage a bit. In one sense it may be nice to place the entire small board in a sealed chamber and chill it with gas, but then it would be neither cheap nor portable after such efforts.

 

Mine still "portable" in a sense, in fact I don't suffer much carrying it from place to place, but as Wingnut has pointed, 3.0 Ghz pretty much only serves a lot of purpose on emulators.

Devil May Cry 1,2,3 and Hot Pursuit 2 from PS2 ran wonders at this speed. (PCSX2 implemented not too long ago multicore optimizations, it uses 4+ cores to get a very nice jump in speed)

 

Vect, I think you keep clicking the quote button for the person one slot below the dude you want to quote.