*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

grats and nice tutorial,
and nice photo now we can refer to your thread for ppl who want unplug the logo light (we got some old 1 deep within this thread but cant seem to dig them out ne more)

 

I(The guy on S|A with the same name) was speculating based on the 600-800MHz GPU clock in your 3'rd link , I understand now it's not accurate of what the range of all the GPU's will be, atleast not from what I can see.

Btw. on S|A we got a nice leak
by someone who got his hands on a Trinity laptop, and it seems if you assume
Llano A4 = Trinity A6
A6 = A8
A8 = A10 that the 20-30% and 50% GPU uplift in performance seems pretty accurate.

 

HP has confirmed that the ENVY 17 will come with the 7850m and the ENVY 15 will come with the 7750m. Seeing as how the Envy 15 and the DV6Z were offered identical GPUs in the past, and we know that HP is getting a stock of 7750s, it seems highly likely that they will use some of these 7750s in the new DV6Z.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/8506737-post362.html

 

Hp surprises (at least me anyway) check these out.

DailyTech - HP Airs $599 AMD Trinity Sleekbook, $999 Intel Ivy Bridge Ultrabook


seer

 

They already released some of the envy ultrabooks this morning, with some amazing coupon codes (total of around $500 for i5 sandy bridge + 7670m) but the coupon codes only lasted for about 4 hours lol.

 

Hold out for at least the A10 and the 7750. Once *tweaked* it can really rock n roll expect between 700 and 800 bux retail. Not seeing a lot of 1080p screens being offered on the 15" and lower, at least initially.

seer

 

Just order an Crucial M4 SSD , does our motherboard support SATA 6Gb/s ???

Thanks

John.

 

Yep. I have had an ADATA S510 SATA 3 drive in since Christmas and I get full 6Gb/s speeds.

The main drive supports SATA 3 while the optical drive is SATA 2.

 

That`s just what i wanted to hear +REP

John.

EDIT : I must have Rep you the other day, it will not let me do it again sorry.

 

hp trinity laptop late to the game.
i want to play with one now

 

well, now it looks like HP is bringing more trinity's to the table than predicted, but still waiting to see what all is on the option list.

seer

 

Just want to let everyone know.. if you join the steam rockstar group, you get midnight club 2 for free :

Get it HERE

Also I can't wait for these Trinity laptops. Shouldn't be more than a week till release.

 

would have been awesome if it was Midnight Club LA , but free is free, Ill accept it in my steam account, thanks

 

meh, getting 0xdeaddead bsod on intel wifi driver with 6300 for unknown reason, gonna stick a 6200 in there and see if it persists.

 

Did anybody else get a big brick 120watt PSU with their DV6z6 , the website says 90watt PSU

John.

 

My DV6z has a 120w power supply.

 

yup, every 1 got a huge brick. ASUS gave me a tiny winy 60W for K53 though.LOL

 

Yeah we need all 120W. I have a 3rd part 90W brick and if you are running CPU > 2.2GHz and GPU overclocked it really starts to throttle and you see some mega FPS drops.

Trinity tomorrow! Who else is super excited?!!

 

with 120w brick, when you view HWINFO while playing games, does your cpu clock still bounce around a lot?

 

Mine do when go above 2.2ish, but the unlocked bios allow us to disable CnQ .

I think most still use the same/high p-state all across to prevent that happen.(lock p-state or set 100% min in windows do not help at all)

Edit: actually sometimes it doest bounce It just throttle it around 1.8ghz ish. Was playing Dragon Age I .

a larger brick help a bit but it doesnt seem like a miracle. dv6z will throttle to p6 if I do prime95 +furmark, k53 doesnt not throttle if I keep the max clock around 2.2ghz.

 

anyone know what the best screen calibration settings are for the dv6 6135dx?, in terms of brightness, gamma, contrast. Default just looks so faded and bright and i want the picture quality to look as crisp as possible. So far i brought the gamma down from the default to -65 and looks a lot better.

 

Just ordered mine.... DV6-6145dx from newegg for a whooping $400. No tax and free shipping. Only downside... refurbished. I don't mind. I just got an AMD A8 CPU, 8GB of ram, and 640GB hdd for $400, I'm not complaining, plus newegg's customer service is pretty good.

I can NOT wait until it arrives. Just a quick question, when I first receive it, I will be wiping the whole harddrive and reinstalling Windows 7. Do the drivers from the first page still apply? Is there any newer drivers?

I am going to use the laptop for about an week before I start OCing it, just to make sure everything is working properly. Other than that, any new tips for an new purchase?

Whoa, wrong thread, meant to post this in the Definitive DV6z thread.

 

the 768p look crap no matter what I do with it,

just done final exam and finally did the mod I wanted to do long time ago.

I use some black electric tape and tape the right side lights up.

 

will you be playing games? i looked at the specs and didnt see any mention of a dgpu like the 6135dx

 

For those interested: Trinity review up at Anandtech.

Seems like an incremental increase rather than a game changer.

 

Go in to Catalyst, go to Power and then PowerPlay. Turn off Varibright. Makes a huge difference.

 

thought would at least match a 6650m . let see how driver and OC turns.

 

i started playing world of tanks, and been getting a atikmpag.sys blue screen of death some times.. think its driver related? Im still on 12.4 and this is the only game so far Ive experienced it

 

reviews out

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Trinity-A104600M-Processor-Review/
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/39333-amd-a10-4600m-trinity-apu/
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mobile/AMD-A10-4600M-Trinity-Mobile-Review-Trying-Cut-Ivy
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trinity-a10-4600m-apu-review-jumping-the-shark-/15830-10.html#


oh damn.

no Trinity overclocking results yet ??? nooooooooooo

someone said k10stat doesn't work on Trinity

 

6650m? Less than 20% over 6620G? In the other benchmark graphs it's showing it less than 6630m.

So far no way to OC 6620G, and likely no with the Trinity GPU. On average < 20% improvement, which is significant but far from a game changer as R3d stated.

 

some reviews are saying Dual graphics now supports dx9.

i wonder if that will support the llano crossfire.







also, can someone here run cinebench 11.5 single thread at stock speed?
anandtech gets a 0.64.

do you get the same?

 

Oh god, these retard review cant do proper CPU comparison? run a wprime or pi. How do we suppose to compare the CPU performance with those weird CPU suite or unrar/7zip or pcmark. The only thing that is useful in these is cinebench/3dmark.

 

The really interesting thing though is that Trinity uses the same pin layout and chipset as Llano, so a drop in upgrade is very possible with a BIOS update.

 

R3, I've been trying sooooooo hard to confirm that. Turns out the FS1r socket is chit different, the trin has 1 less pin, the only problem is that the current lappies run on 45 watt, not 35 watt. HOWEVER, I *believe* that I know someone who can confirm that the a8 and a10's CAN run on current dv6z machines. If you remember, I reported on the performance of the "45" watt trinity....I now believe that that particular engineer managed to get the engineering samples to run in the FS1 socket, and at 45 watts, which is likely how he got such amazing clock speeds. We're talking 3.8 solid in a laptop chassis. He was soooo stoked. The piledriver cores scale big time with freq and can overclock like mad. On nitro, they've already broken the record at over 6ghz. There are several guys who have the desktop engineering samples running solid at over 5ghz on AIR!. This engineer could do over 4.4 in a lappie, but settled for testing at 3.8 which he described as "rock solid". The question is, did they do something to the release steppings to keep em from running on existing platforms...I can't confirm until i can either get him on the phone, or get one of the chips myself, but I remain hopeful.

seer

 

LOL, a drop in replacement on DV6z would be sublime. I do like the look of the new DV6 though. But for what I need a Trinity drop in my current machine would make me happy.

 

Seer, so can you confirm if there will be MX models on Trinity? I will be happy if an A10-MX appear, I want to replace my Old Turion Ultra with a High power A10...

 

Trinity is a solid upgrade, was expecting more from the GPU though. At least 40% faster than Llano...
Although they tested it with DDR3 1600, I bet with 1866 it will scale almost linearly.

 

Hi.

Is there any way to test the four built in speakers independently?

EDIT : Do we just have two left and two right, not four independent speakers

Thanks

John.

 

How much would it cost to get one of those 45w chips in my hands? lol. Can't wait to hear how this turns out, keep up with the updates seer.

 

something is wrong with Anandtech's cinebench 11.5 single core test, or something is wrong with my laptop.

at stock clock, my A6-3400 single core only scores 0.43.
not even remotely close to the 0.64 the A8-3500 scores, being 100mhz higher.
for scaling purposes, the A8-3520 got 0.67, which is 100mhz higher even.

so scaling backwards, I should get 0.61.

wth...
the multithread test has only a 3x multiplier ratio,
while my own test shows exact 4x multiplier, hence the way lower single core score.

 

Are you running the 64 bit version of cinebench?

 

yeah. 64 bit.

i get even lower on 32bit

 

1080p D3 pretty smooth(40-60) all high shadow off full screen, not sure crossfire on or off, CCC is bugging me.

Windowed 1080p fps is a disaster,

Single player that is ~~

 

I hope the processors can be put in our older models... It would simply rock, they do seem to be a nice improvement over llano.

 

that anandtech single core cinebench 11.5 score is bullcrap.

I clocked my desktop Athlon IIx4 to 2 ghz and get nowhere near the 0.64 that the 1.5ghz A8-3500m does.

considering that turbocore doesn't work worth a damn on llano, those anandtech scores are skewed.


anyway, the highest single core score I got was 0.68 at 2.3ghz on my llano, running 2.3 100% of the time.
somehow, anandtech got the same score with a stock 1.6ghz A8-3520m, clocked 700mhz slower.
If that is the case, trinity single core ipc has caught up, likely helped by double L2 cache, at 2mb all to itself. but multicore still lags by 25%
a few other things are greatly improved though.

 

Looking at this got me to thinking that I haven't run cinebench 11.5 on my "final" every day configuration so I thought I'd give it a go. My 3530mx setup with my sapphire trixx/fusion tweak, overdrive getup; which i run all the time and have for some time, just ran a cpu of 3.17 and a single core of .77 The mp ratio showing 4.11. this is online, with whatever windows 'glass' imitation desktop configuration is, Aero? right? , and all my normal stuff, including avast etc. Now if I remember right, and I'm sure R3, Vect, Rmac etc. will correct me if I'm wrong, someone got their 3530 to at full juice, put up a 3.26, or 3.33 or something similar. I don't consider that bad performance. Conks most of the i3's and i5's and shakes hands with some of the slower i7's. I was told once by someone with access to an engineering sample of what has apparently become the A10, that it could run substantially better than that. Now note, my .77 on single core is exactly what anand's guy got on the stock A10 which has a stock B0 state of what? 3.2ghz? That I find *curious*. That may say something about current drivers, change in cache, or just my expertise at *tweaking* the LLano LOL

In any event, the point I guess I'm making is that assuming they don't lock down the clocks on the released chips, all of these pitiful stock numbers mean nothing compared to what's hiding in there ready to be released. The other thing that irritates me is that no one has apparently been given access to a trin laptop with the 7690 in it, because next to no one is saying anything about dual graphics game performance, and unless I'm missing something, isn't that the whole point? sheesh...

just so you know the B0 state on my apu is 3100. With my stock dgpu overclock set to 720/834 I run Skyrim fluidly at my stock 1368x 768 at all Ultra settings, cept with aa turned off and fxaa turned on. Everything else is maxxed to the hilt. And, according to my logs, 64.5 C is as hot as it gotten. Frankly, if you've got the lights turned down, sometimes that game is just plain breathtaking. But back to the matter at hand, I read all the time bout guys beatchin and moaning that llano boxes can't run skyrim at more than medium settings with a lot of stuff turned completely off. sigh...just wait till overclockers or guru3d type guys, or R3, Vect, Mac, Wink, and the rest of our boys get hold of one of these for a wring out and THEN we'll know just what kind of performance potential we're really looking at. Since I didn't get my hands on the damned thing, I can't tell you the internal details, but I CAN tell you what I saw, and what I saw was an engineering sample based laptop, with "some kind of dedicated" in it, running in Cross Fire enabled mode, running Dirt 3, everything set to the max, just dust the living chit out of an i5/Nvida GT560m box, side by side, hands off, and it wasn't close. It was a stunning demo and every jaw in the room dropped. It was supposedly an oem prototype and SOMEBODY is going to release that thing, and I for one, am sure as hell going to get one.

seer

 

We alrrady have some benches where an A8 & 6750M beats an Intel CPU and a 560M, such as 3DMark11. If you add a few hundred points from a Trinity IGP onto it, plus better drivers, then we've really got a winner.

However, thinking today, I highly doubt K10Stat will work with Trinity. (Ya know, the whole "K10" thing isn't really compatible with Piledriver) Anyone know a software engineer?

 

Does anyone know if k10stat works with bulldozer?

if it does, then it should work with trinity

there is another tool called PScheck, which is supposed to allow changing multiplier in bulldozer-
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691683

might be able to work with trinity, assuming multis not locked.

oh man. I'm using this pscheck for the first time, and I like it better than k10stat.
Made by amd, intuitive to use, It looks nicer, and I don't have to run it under administrator.

As soon as trinity hits the stores, i'm gonna bring this and try to OC those biches

 

Tinderbox: the speakers are for high frequency and mid frequency separately to reduce distortion. Newer models have a tiny subwoofer crammed in that improves the bass experience a little. Not mindblowing and not intended as true surround. But nice. Waiting to react to the launch for a couple more days, impressions then only.

 

Hi.

Has anybody re-pasted their cpu and gpu, was thermal pads or paste used originals as pads sometime require a copper shim because of the extra gap.

Thanks

John.