*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Oh, hey, I forgot to ask...

Have you been able to install AMD's normal mobile drivers from their site without hacks or anything weird?

 

Didn't you get the 1080p screen? That seems to be delaying orders at least a few days, sometimes more.

 

The screen hasn't delayed this model in particular from what I have seen from customizing on their site. I'm assuming the delay was due to some kind of amd part shortage. Now, the 1080 screen might add a couple days to production for them to attach it, but I doubt that. It's possible mine might get put in a different shipment of amd/intel with 1080 screens. Another reason could be is that when mine was delayed on the 7th, I was given the 22nd for my delay date. I'd assume they are producing the laptops who's delay date is sooner first, so they don't risk going into a second delay and having to shell out credits.

 

i tried installing the drivers directly from amd site.
but all i get is error.

so far im using the drivers provided by hp.

 

Okay, well thanks for letting me know!

Do you guys think that's just because the GPU is too new to be supported by their drivers? Or...is it not going to have support?

 

It depends if the Intel drivers are integrated with the AMD ones. If they are then HP will have to release drivers because I'm sure Intel won't allow AMD to package their drivers together, HP will have to do it.

 

Archi15 has a dv6z so Intel is not involved in that instance (although incidentally, you can install AMD's drivers on the dv6t, but they need to go on top of HP's drivers -- a clean install won't work).

 

kinitek updated the drivers to 11.6 and he didn't mention having to do anything special to do so

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...dv6-now-shipping-amd-llano-2.html#post7641438

 

Duh. I should have known that. This is the DV6z thread, sorry.

Hmm, curious then, yeah seems AMD should be able to design the drivers then, and no need for HP's.

 

Mine is still reporting the 28th as revised build by date. Ordered 06/30. I also added the 1080 screen.
@ abaddon Hope yours arrives soon!

 

Does it show your revised date in your my orders page on the hp website or do we have to just go by the email. They said my page would be updated every 24 hours but the my orders page still says "Order in production (Estimated to ship on July 7th, 2011)". When I contacted them on the 7th they said it was very likely that my order had already shipped, needless to say that was not the case. It seems they just keep giving me the runaround to get my hopes up, only to disappoint me further with their "customer service".

 

My initial order screen on HPs website hasn't changed. I have to use a link in the delay email to get the updated status. And I bet the customer service rep does not have the delay information.

 

That link doesn't say anything about the drivers, and Archi15 said they give errors when you try to install.

I'm just wondering if that's because the part is too new to have support in AMD's newest drivers, or because they WON'T be supported by AMD's drivers.

 

He says he updated the drivers in the post and look at the 3dMark outputs before and after.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...dv6-now-shipping-amd-llano-2.html#post7641311

In the first one the drivers are 8.832, which are what it ships with, and the second one shows 8.861, which is 11.6

 

I've waded through this whole thread and have just a few comments. I *think* (educated conclusion that you guys buying the z over the t version are going to be smiling in the end. I am aware of one very knowledgeable tech who is putting in some time exploring the possibilities of the LLano dual graphics setup who has managed to overclock the system. What is notable is that even with his vast experience he is startled at the results, even to the point that his latest comment, after attaining yet another material and completely stable speed increase, was that he was now seeing " epic " increases in graphic bandwidth.

seer

 

@ seeratlas

Knew that already, just I bought the Y570 before Llano got a release date at retailers. Oh well, next time around AMD has my money.

 

Knew? Are you kidding, guys? Where, for God's Sake, are Llano Sabine APUs allowing overclock, specially at dGPU and CFx department?
Thanks!

 

How did he manage to OC?

 

Yes, please share how it was overclocked. This is news to me (and everyone else).

 

Well, I did it. I just ordered a DV6z. It is over $400 less than the Sager I ordered, plus the battery life will let me sell my M11x. I will have a chance to compare them side by side and see if the DV6z will do what I need it to do, otherwise it's getting returned!

 

Could you also do a comparison between the HP's 1080p display (if you got that option) and the Sager NP8130's 95% gamut matte display? A lot of people have been wanting to know how the HP's screen compares to 95% gamut screens.

 

I plan on doing a full review and comparison between the two, and will definitely make note of the screen. I'd like to know too!

I'd also like to see how well it plays modern games especially Bad Company 2 so I get a feel for how it will fare with Battlefield 3. Benchmarks don't always tell the whole story, so will be good to get a general feel for it.

In the end the DV6z will cost over $450 less than the NP8130. The NP8130 will have to be quite convincing to spend that much extra coin.

 

I still don't see anything at all about drivers in the post you link to, and I've got a confirmation from someone else that you CAN'T install them.

The question is just whether that's a permanent situation, or something that's going to be fixed in the next driver update.

 

I know a guy that says that his Llano machine exploded when he thought about overclocking it.

Knowing a guy who knows a guy isn't very solid information.

 

What? (10 char)

 

graphic bandwidth? wth does that mean?

You sure he didn't overclock the desktop version?

 

Pretty sure that one of the graphics performance bottlenecks on the apu is the gpu access to memory - that's why frame rates go up between ddr3-1333 and ddr3-1600 and then again at ddr3-1866 in a lot of the benchmarks, even if there is no overclock. It's also one of the reason that some people have suggested something like a sideport memory thing for the next generation of APUs.

Assuming that I've read the llano specs correctly, overclocking the chip, in addition to overclocking the cpu and gpu, should also overclocks the memory controller, which improves graphics performance. A 25% overclock, for example, would result in ddr3-1333 operating at 1666 speeds.

as for whether it's a desktop or laptop thing, I know there have been instances of overclocking the A8-3850, but haven't heard anything about it laptops. Not sure if it's a good idea (due to power, temperature and battery life issues), but I'm not sure why it couldn't be done if the bios and motherboard permits baseclock adjustments.

 

So if you got your AMD A8-3530mx machine, can you please to run a 3DMark2001SE and 2003 test? Use just only the APU power. Do you have DDR3 1600MHz Ram to see what difference makes it?

 

Testing Different Memory Speeds on AMD's A8-3850 Llano APU - Memory Performance on AMD's A-Series APU - Legit Reviews

 

I have already seen it and also found a similar, but I more like interested about the mobile versions. They might less sensitive for memory speed.
Also curious if the mobile versions can benefit of 1866MHz RAMs, because officially they just support 1600MHz.

 

Wow, looks like performance from 1333 to 1600 is a pretty big jump.

 

Oh, okay, I see what you mean, but s/he's not saying he could use normal drivers, and someone explicitly said you can't.

Hopefully a temporary situation... I wish I knew.

 

Hopefully I get mine tomorrow, I have gotten most CTO notebooks from HP in two days even with the 5-7 day shipping option, and we will know for sure.

 

@ abaddon Are you still planning on putting in 8 GB of 1600 ram? I'm quite curious to see if that has a major impact on performance like it does in the desktop version. Although I don't know if the dv6 motherboard will support it.

 

I am going to get 8GB it soon, though not right away. I assume that it will have the same impact as the desktop reviews have shown. All three mobile A8's and the A6-3410mx support it, according to AMD, but none support 1866.

 

I don't think the 1866 would be worth it...I have only seen 1866 with CL: 11 as opposd to the CL: 9 of the 1600s... Although I have not done significnat research into the matter

 

Wow those are interesting benchmark results with DDR3 1333 vs DDR3 1600.

 

do you have a tracking number yet?

This is something I've thought of doing, but haven't decided yet. I might just ride with the 1333 myself for a while and wait until I decide to upgrade to 16gb before I put in the 1600's.

The other upgrade I might consider doing is putting in a 240+ gb SSD drive (maybe when those drop down below 50 cents per gb, whenever that happens)

 

16GB RAM will be prohibitively expensive. 8GB memory modules are hundreds of dollars a piece. 8GB is the best you can do for a long while with two DIMM slots without spending hundreds more per 8GB module.

I will be putting an SSD in my laptop. I already have a 256GB one.

 

Yeah

The performance difference between 1333 and 1600 is good enough for me to be willing to spend the money to upgrade, but I will be getting 8GB, not 16GB. 16GB is overkill and not worth what you would have to pay for it with only 2 RAM slots.

 

I don't even think it's possible to GET the modules. They're only being released to OEMs and I haven't found any that will sell them outside of a new machine.

 

You can purchase them. They go for about 250$ for each module.

 

Just got the International Shipment Release at Anchorage. I definitely expect to get it by the weekend now, hopefully tomorrow.

 

Not immediately. Maybe in a year or two - RAM prices and speeds have been coming down fast. Again, maybe not at all.

I don't see much of a need to go from 6gb 1333 to 8 gb 1600 at this point, unless there is some game I absolutely need to play on the battery that hits 30+ fps at 8gb 1600 but below 30 fps at 6 gb 1333. Otherwise, I'll probably just muddle through with the 6750M or crossfire (if it works) and play other games on the battery.

 

Woot! Let the benchmarking BEGIN!

No, but any feedback you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

 

No doubt you have a link?

 

As to the "how" I'll let him give the break down on specifics when he's completed his analysis. Have to say tho, can't remember the last time he was so pumped on a 'bang for buck' level.

seer

 

I guess we know different kinds of people. I tend to hang with the peeps who have discovered that almost without exception when someone draws themselves up in all their self-perceived majesty and proclaims that something 'can't be done'...what they REALLY mean is that THEY can't do it...
As I said, when he's ready, he'll post.

seer

 

I thought you already have it:confused2:. I really need those A8 3530mx benchmarks to see how much faster as my current Intel machine.

 

I was thinking of upgrading to 8gb of 1600mhz when my laptop finally gets here. Is $59.99 good for a G.Skill 2X4gb 9-9-9-28 1.5v 1600mhz set? If so I might be picking these up.