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    *HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by scy1192, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. 7words

    7words Notebook Consultant

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    Unzip doesn´t work.
     
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    I've opened my DV6-6135DX and can confirm that thermal paste was used on both the cpu and gpu. Of course I took it off and replaced it with Artic Cooling MX-4...I'll try AS5 next go around when I swap in the 1080p screen.
     
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    Good, let us know how the temperatures go!
     
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    For Swat and anyone else interested in calibrating their screens, I forgot to mention that after you get it calibrated, you can check out the test screens at tft.vanity.dk and see how your monitor performs. Might be useful for the 1080p guys to see "how much better" than the 1366 guys' screens are once calibrated... :)

    seer
     
  5. seeratlas

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    where are you sourcing your 1080p? and price?

    Seer
     
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    I have a spyder 3 and plan on calibrating my screen once I get my replacement.
     
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    How difficult is it to open it up that far? Ive cracked open my PS3 down to the mobo to change the thermal paste, and that was fairly straight forward. Never popped open a laptop before, however. Any write ups, or youtube guide videos?
     
  8. 7words

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    I replaced the rather crappy Samsung screen with a ChiMei yesterday, there is a Service Guide for all DV6-Models @hp.com, it is rather easy to open up the notebook with that guide (many illustrations included and step by step instructions).
    http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/CoreRedirect.jsp?redirectReason=DocIndexPDF&prodSeriesId=5082212&targetPage=http%3A%2F%2Fbizsupport1.austin.hp.com%2Fbc%2Fdocs%2Fsupport%2FSupportManual%2Fc02842252%2Fc02842252.pdf

    The only 'difficult' thing is to have the screws in the correct order for reassembling, they have not the same length.
     
  9. Biggie862005

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    Edit: Nevermind, it worked. Thanks!!
     
  10. Swat1820

    Swat1820 Notebook Geek

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    Aha! Thanks for pointing that out! Guess the algorithm 7-zip uses to create heavily compressed zip archives can't be read by other unzip utilities. I've now created a new zip archive with the standard program build in, in windows 7.

    Link: F.20 610-910 fixed.zip
    MD5 Hash: A358F597EC46890D47161E3905834824

    Let me know if you can unzip it now!
     
  12. BankaiKiller

    BankaiKiller Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I have been following this thread for awhile now, and i'm proud to talk about my purchase of the dv6-6135dx. So I guess we are just waiting for the crossfire driver patch to be released soon. I was also wondering if this laptop can handle any game at medium to high settings over 30fps with out crossfire enabled? lol.. I have had a hard time trying to find benchmarks for each indivdual settings of the graphics... there's 3 option to choose from lol. The crossfire graphics, the apu graphics, and the dedicated graphics. also wondering if the cpu at stock is fast enough to handle the current games that are cpu intensive, or should I do a slight overclock if it made a difference in performance. I have never done a laptop overclock before so I would have no idea where to start if needed. Thanks in advance for any helpful information I recieve.
     
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    Download K10stat. Trust me it is SUPER easy. This was my first time overclocking and it literally took me 5 minutes because I copied tables that were previously posted as well as tested for stability. Which makes it VERY easy for us guys new to all of this. Look back a few pages through this thread, there are links to download k10stat as well as a few tables people have posted.
     
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    Ya, i'll download it and wait for seer to post a minor overclock table.

    Is 164 the latest version?
     
  15. Biggie862005

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    I believe 1.54 is the latest version
     
  16. BankaiKiller

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    Ohh mybad, I ment that one, the August 6th version, thanks!

    Do I need winrawr to open the application?

    Ohh nevermind, I just had to extract it.
     
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    Just a quick note to everyone here: this thread is now the official owners lounge for the dv6z AMD Llano series. :)

    The thread's title has been changed to reflect this.
     
  18. seeratlas

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    LOL, there are several guys in this thread with that exact laptop that have already posted their numbers. For some reason the "search this thread" isn't working for me but give it a go. My numbers wouldn't qualify as a "minor overclock". I have a stock underclocked config, my high perform config, and am working on my SAVE THAT BATTERY config. If you can't find it, I'm sure one of the 6135 owners will pipe up and let you know what they're running and how its working for them. :) If I don't see one in the next few hours, I'll give you a recommended setup until you get ready to work out your own if you like.

    Seer
     
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    You should configure to your own machine anyhow. Not all voltages will work with all CPU's and laptop configurations. It's just a few hours of your time to set up after that it's done.
     
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    Doesn't even take a few hours, tbh. 5 runs of IntelBurn will reveal any stability issues. Takes me like an hour to set all 7 p-states.
     
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    I've found that Prime95 runs the system a little harder and has found errors where Intel Burn Test has passed successfully. Once I got it set the way I want, then I did a much longer burn test, about 20 minutes per P-state to ensure stability. It found an error in one p-state that I bumped up the voltage one notch and it ran for 30 minutes no problem.
     
  22. Imwithstupid11

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    Here are the P-states that I have tested. They each had to pass about ~10mins of prime95 then the Intel burn test. These are the results specific to my particular cpu, but feel free to use these speeds/voltages as an approximation of where yours should be around. Again I stress this point, these are my results and aren't guaranteed to be stable on different cpus. So test each P-state yourself, I'm just trying to give you a ballpark estimate as to where they should be around to save you guys some time. Enjoy :)
    3530MX
    - Clock speed/voltage -
    • 2800mhz @ 1.2125v
    • 2600mhz @ 1.1500v
    • 2400mhz @ 1.0875v
    • 2200mhz @ 1.0375v
    • 2000mhz @ 0.9750v
    • 1800mhz @ 0.9250v
    • 1600mhz @ 0.8625v
    • 1400mhz @ 0.8250v
    • 1200mhz @ 0.7750v
    • 1000mhz @ 0.7375v
    • 800mhz @ 0.6750v

    Also, I wouldn't recommend anything above 2.4ghz for the P0 P-state, things get a little hot.

    Note - This isn't my K10STAT profile, but rather all of the speeds that I have tested. You can pick the ones that suit your needs.
     
  23. seeratlas

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    I LIKE the "6XXX" in the title lol, does that qualify as HP P*O*R*N ? :laugh:
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    Thanks. But you set yours to 2.6GHz! :eek: :p
     
  25. seeratlas

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    That's some amazing undervolts! What are you temps at rest? at load?

    Seer
     
  26. Imwithstupid11

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    Haha, no. I have mine set to 2.4ghz with a 2.8ghz turbo. I was saying that anything above 2.4ghz for the main P-state(P0) gets pretty hot. It got so hot to the point that I was testing the stability with Prime95 while having the laptop sit on a floor AC vent.

    I personally use -
    B0 2800 1.2125
    P0 2400 1.0875
    P1 2200 1.0375
    P2 2000 0.9750
    P3 1800 0.9250
    P4 1600 0.8625
    P5 1200 0.7750
    P6 800 0.6750

    The P-states I listed in the previous post are all the ones I've tested so far, including the ones for my battery life and performance profiles. I get between 42-43C idle with a 16.50W draw(according to CPUID hardware monitor).
     
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    Oh, I see, I was thinking that those were your P-states set in K10stat currently. My bad! I see there's far too many there for that! ;)
     
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    How do you use this program k10stat? No clue what to do.
     
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    google it :) there are several pretty good 'how to's' on the net. Not very hard, be conservative on the values you set. There's quite a bit of advice on it in this thread, and abbadon's dv6z test thread in this forum.

    :)

    Seer
     
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    HT did you ever get your ebates posted to your account?
     
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    Nope. :mad: I emailed them again, and it was well beyond the 15 days. I may have to call them and find out what's going on.
     
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    Wow, I'm a bit beside myself right now. I was about to write a post saying that I think I'm done with this computer. As a last ditch effort I tried what you posted. I can't believe a .5mb fixed so many things. In WoW almost all of the stuttering is gone and my temps are now 72C max. I mean come on, really? I also tried out Crysis and Oblivion...smooth as butter. Right when I thought this computer broke me down, it decides it wants to work. This is a far cry from 81C on the gpu and cpu with massive suttering/slow downs I was getting this whole time. I can't thank you enough.

    Oblivion on high at 1920X1080 is running at 66C on cpu and 68C on gpu... ridiculous.
     
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    Another thing to consider with the stuttering is check coolsense. Make sure it's set to performance mode. Also, if your machine is running hot, and exceeds 90C with performance mode it will drop the CPU speed by 50%! With "coolest" mode it will throttle the CPU at 80C. So keep that in mind and check coolsense.
     
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    DV6-6135DX

    Could you guys enlighten me what ccc driver I should use? I am currently on 11.8 beta but I'm not sure if this would be the best out right now for performance. Also my AMD System Monitor displays my second gpu for the 6750 as (AMD Radeon Series 6600M and 6700M Series) maybe its the driver.

    I ran L4D2 and it is pretty choppy..I'm talking about 25-45 fps (1024x768).
    One thing to note is that steam identified the gpu that was being used was the 6620m and was recognized as an unidentified gfx card. I could still run the game though. Based on notebookcheck the 6750m gets about 140fps on high settings for l4d2. But I am guessing it was running off the integrated although I had the process on 'High Performance'. This may be the same problem for these source-engine games.

    Counterstrike Source : 60-80 fps (same issue as l4d?) (1024x768)
    All Points Bulletin (APB 1024x768) : 40-50 fps (pretty amazed how this wouldn't suffer in frames..I think APB identifies the 6750 which is why)
    Bioshock 2 (1024x768) : 35-70 fps (think it's picking up the 6750M)

    It simply bothers me how this integrated gpu keeps getting in the way...

    So HP fixed the switchable gfx with their latest BIOS update for the pcs with Intel but not AMD? I don't know if it's specifically my machine..I feel like I am lacking some performance here. Hopefully HP comes up with something fast..

    Since I am already making this post...sometimes I get a strange issue where my pc would automatically sleep after I change resolutions from in-game to desktop (alt tabbing).

    But yeah I am just looking to what drivers I should install thanks :)
     
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    Upgrade to latest BIOS? L4D should run better than that.
     
  38. GiftedOne

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    I have upgraded to the latest bios (sp54025)

    maybe I should use the 11.7 catalyst...
     
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    Hey Guys,

    I literally have been searching for hours for information on the 6755G2, and i can't find much.

    I heard it runs 10-15% slower when in crossfire, is this true?

    If so, can i run just the 6570m? Or does it force me to run both?

    And where would i get the drivers for this card?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    GiftedOne - make sure you alt tab out of the game, right click desktop, choose "configure switchable graphics" and make sure the game executable is set to "high performance".
     
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    It dosen't run slower in crossfire. It just has no gains in DX9, it reverts to the discrete GPU. In things like 3DMark11, it reaches 560M levels!
     
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    Does it revert to the dGPU? One of the bugs was that it didn't revert and there was a performance hit.
     
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    Thats what seer said, and he owns it...
     
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    Every game I had run is set to High performance. Eh...I guess I'll just wait until the next move from HP
     
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    I toyed around with Bad Company 2 a LOT while I had my DV6z (currently out for exchange due to high temps), and crossfire made a big difference in DirectX 9 mode. Like 5-8 FPS. With just the 6750m I was getting about 38-40fps average at 1080p. With crossfire enabled it was like 45-47fps average. I really hope my replacement laptop works as it should because I do like the laptop, except for gaming I don't like when its churning out 95C heat.
     
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    Hah, hopefully it was a lemon, as seer's is doing awesome. It really did better in XFire mode? Thats good to know. Maybe AMD is getting on the drivers.
     
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    Try the 11.6a drivers with the game settings patch referred to in the last few pages. I'm having best results with that setup. What I did was install the 11.8beta driver package, then go in and uninstall the driver in device manager, then install the 11.6a one. I had previously installed the "6' application patch, so after rebooting, i've since installed the latest one, "7".

    I've been looking around for things to test the system on, and its eating pretty much everything I throw at it. I downloaded the original demo of Crysis to see what all the hubbub has been about since that game appeared. I fired it up and let it run, and even tho its a dx9 game, it runs liquid (and is hella fun to boot :) i had no problems with temps, noise, stuttering etc., pretty much all the woes someone or other states they are having. Plus I can't overclock my 6570 to the degree that many others have but I still am having no problems. I've been messing with Duke Nukem Forever, and it runs fine. I hear that its not a big resource hog but still, its a title that's running well. I also can run the dx11 morpg Rift in Ultra settings -shadows, and something else I'm always forgetting when I try to post about it. It's on the bottom of the table near 'shadows" lol, anyway, I routinely run between 45 to now 59 or so fps no issues.
    I just started fooling with Dragon Age Origins and have zero issues there also.

    I have the 1366 screen and I run everything pretty much at native.
    If you guys are using kombustor for artifact testing in your gpu overclocks, on the 'Burn In' test set for dx11 my machine "Vendetta" (see i like it so much i've even given it a name LOL) my config tops out at a little over 90 fps. On, and on 3dmark11 I suspected that there was some kind of conflict with my driver combination holding my overclocks down to get thru the physix part of that benchmark, and I now believe that I have confirmed it as I can run MUCH higher clocks in all my other games and other graphics based apps without so much as a hiccup, including all of those I've named above. So far I couldn't be more impressed with the dv6z. Bout the only thing I'd put on the wishlist is a backlit keyboard :), that and evolving drivers to help sort out the dual graphics issues to the extent that they still remain. When running my high performance mode, I've put up an almost 11,200 3dmark06, and over P2100 3dmark11 with a just under a 2200 graphics score. My wow and rift fps seem to validate those benchmarks. I am content.

    Seer

    btw, I run EVERYTHING in xfire mode and if I keep either Afterburner or amd's system monitor up, I see activity in both gpu units, whether dx9/10 or 11. This comports with Wing's experience posted above. Lastly, go in and explore the Beats sound software. I t can REALLY make those laptop speakers put out something worth listening to. :)
     
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    I believe all my issues stem from heat, period. Running at 90-95C for extended periods (gaming primarily) can't help matters. I'm sure there's some throttling going on behind the scenes outside of HP's control which was causing some issues for me. Over extended play sessions, heck not even extended, about 20-30 minutes I would get lockups, even when CPU was < 90 and GPU < 80. I hope to share positive experiences once I get the new replacement machine. Otherwise I'll be hunting for another laptop. :mad:
     
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    Not keeping the 8130 then?
     
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    Ahhh...I got a warning has a occurred during my ati installation. Although everything says successful in the log. Hopefully this does not mess with my drivers in the near future. I did a driver sweep also..which makes no sense. I'll report back after I get everything setup and ready to go.
     
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