*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

I gotta run a 3d mark 11 score and get up there with u guys My 3d11 had a lot of problems launching with avast lol

 

heheh we're running different setups, you have faster gpu, i have slightly faster cpu. coming at it from too different directions BUT...there's one more thing I haven't tried..... heheh

seer

 

Ok, I told you guys I thought a 2200 graphics score was possible...
talk about kissing your sister LOL..so close , sooooooo close...
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/seeratlas/2191a.png

and here's the graphics score...

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/seeratlas/2191b.png

ahhhhh, well, maybe this winter I can take the lappie out in the snow and try for those last two points....rflmao..

Seer

One thing about it, looking at how close those two scores are, one might conclude that the Hpdv6z llano's are VERY well balanced machines

 

Just did 3d11 test 1, decent overclock, but I can go higher, 2122 : AMD Radeon HD 6620G video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3530MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,Hewlett-Packard 3590 score: P2122 3DMarks

Test 2 coming soon. (hopefully over 2200) !

 

rock and roll but don't burn it up...go up sloooooooowwwwwwly

JESUS!!! you've done it 2205 graphics score LOL. Grats, man you must have a ton left in your cpu!!!! Take it easy but your box looks like a moonshot !!!

AH HAH!!!! you have a different motherboard than we do. Our's are 3580's, yours is a 3590!

seer

 

Yeah mac, looking at your individual scores, you should have gobs of juice left in your cpu overclock. My physics score is like 800 points higher than yours!!!!
jesus, we could see some 570 type scores if you're not careful LOL.

Seer

 

Yeah , I just realized that I am running with coolsense in coolest mode.... looool, no wonder im at 2.9ghz and its getting low scores

Should be up in 10.

 

oh chit!! LOL

seer

 

AHHH so close AMD Radeon HD 6620G video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3530MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,Hewlett-Packard 3590 score: P2175 3DMarks

That d@mn physics test is the most unstable thing, makes me crank the voltages. I was so close, @ 2.93ghz, it absolutely ripped thru the physics test (from <8fps to 11+)but then in last test crashed with 10 seconds to go

 

I hate you all!

Trying to disassemble this DV6z is an exercise in futility. The service manual nowhere resembles the newer DV6's and it's like sealed tighter than, well I can't say here.

I really would like to repaste it, but not worth the risk breaking it and not getting a refund.

Now the question remains, return it and hope for a good one this next time, or keep the Asus. At this point I'd rather just keep the Asus and upgrade the screen myself. Hoping there's a good replacement screen out there that supports 1920x1080 though. That would be a real bummer too.

 

Yeah I am not breaking 2200 without frying the cpu lol. This is the best I can do : AMD Radeon HD 6620G video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3530MX APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics,Hewlett-Packard 3590 score: P2184 3DMarks

According to notebookcheck that 3dmark11 for gpu outscores the gtx 460,560,470 and even barely 480. No way that is for real lol.

Seer, I see you have a score thats about 10 higher than mine . Any tips? What CPU frequency / gfx drivers did u use?

That Score is with cpu @ 2.93ghz, 1.26V, GPU @ 815/1010
11.8 catalyst drivers.

 

OMG! I am SOOOO HAPPPY! SUCCESS!

I am ready to put on a kilt and do the jig or whatever dance is silly and crazy.

Thanks to lmanlo, he pointed me to the proper service manual. Disassembly wasn't too bad, just took time and patience. But I did repaste the CPU and GPU. The stuff that was on there had good coverage, and was thinking then something else must be wrong. Then I tried to remove the paste and it was as hard as a freaking rock! Rock doesn't conduct heat very well. Well it kinda does, for a sauna at least. Had to let alcohol soak on it for a little bit, while I drank another kind, then had to scrub it off. Put on some IC Diamond, screwed everything back together and BAM!

Idling at 34-35C. Bad Company 2 running at 77-80C, and don't even turn on Crossfire, running 1080p @ 35-45fps with CPU @ 2.2GHz 1.05V.

Another thing I noticed is that I did a clean install and didn't install any HP software, the fan doesn't kick in until temps are way high. Then I installed CoolSense. With CoolSense on Performance it kicks in much earlier which helps matters. In any case still don't have manual fan control otherwise I'd kick it up to 100% before I start a game. But as long as temps remain this way and it performs well, I'll be happy. Just need a couple more days to play and if all goes well, Asus goes back to the store.

The CPU and GPU had a protective mylar sticker mask over them to protect the PCB from the thermal paste, well it didn't help much, quite a bit was smudged underneath the sticker. I was going to just remove it, but instead cleaned it off best I could and put it back in case I decided to return the laptop. I can guarantee in six to nine months time, maybe even sooner, everyone's temperatures will go UP considerably because of the crap thermal paste they use. So be prepared to pop open your case and repaste.

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering, GPU RAM is definitely GDDR5: Samsung K4G10325FE-HC04
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/Greenmemory/Products/GDDR5/GDDR5_Lineup.html
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=759&partnum=K4G10325FE




Pics of motherboard and heatsink/fan (click spoiler button):

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No, that is NOT red velvet. It's a cheap red towel.

 

Nice one! The temps might go down even farther once the paste sets. Maybe Seer should repaste, maybe he could break 2200 then.

 

Woow HT that is awesome! Great job! I may have to re-paste now.

That last picture looks like a fair amount of paste? Was that before of after you re-pasted?

 

So wait you are using 11.8 how did you get them to overclock without freezing the computer.

 

You need to turn off ULPS. Here is a really convenient app for it : ULPS Config Utility (enable/disable) - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

Also, I use MSI afterburner because Sapphire Trixx is extremely unstable. GPU clocks that I know are stable in afterburner crash in trixx....

 

Doesn't disabling ULPS kill battery life? AFAIK it's needed to completely shutdown the dGPU when only the iGPU is needed, thus improving battery life.

 

Just in case people don't want to manually change ULPS in the registry or use Sapphire Trixx, then here's the registry files I made: ulps_enable_disable.zip

This zip contains two files:

ULPS_Disable.reg
ULPS_Enable.reg

Basically it will just change the value of "EnableUlps" in the registry from "0" (disable) or "1" (enable) at locations:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\ 0000]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\ 0001]

Double click the one you want and reboot your computer.

ULPS stands for "Ultra Low Power State". When enabled it should save on power a bit, but I haven't noticed much difference when disabled. When disabled it should let you overclock your GPU, but so far 11.6 drivers are still required.

 

When i click on your external screenie, nothing is coming up Would be interested in seeing your individual scores.
seer

 

Bah seems someone else made a basic utility for ULPS. Meh, I like my way better, quick and efficient.

@ Musho, I haven't noticed any depreciable battery life. I think if the dedicated card isn't being used, it's deactivated anyhow. Disabling the ULPS allows you to overclock.

That's what was on it from the factory. Coverage was good, maybe a tad bit thick, but like I said, hard as a friggin rock. Not good.

 

that is also my understanding Musho.

seer

 

That is wierd , I cannot believe it lost my result! My physics score was 3533 and graphics score was 2215. I will see if I can retrieve the link somehow. (I am pulling these from my head so I cant remember the rest)

 

You have to take the whole thing apart and remove the motherboard to access the heatsink and fan. Once you get to the point where you have access to the motherboard, there's only three screws to remove to get it out.

First time doing, it's probably about 30 minutes to dismantle, just because I was being cautious. Took me about 20 to reassemble.

Just make sure you label your screws as you take them out because there's at least a half dozen kinds.

 

Nice job, ht. 10-15C cooler is about what I expected with a re-paste.

 

I found a guide once on K10stat and starting it as a service. Anyone have a link to a guide on how to do that? Google isn't showing anything of substance. Thanks.

edit: nevermind here: http://aspiregemstone.blogspot.com/2009/06/k10stat-amd-griffin-processor.html

 

haha HT I just found another guide like it 20 seconds ago, and I was just looking for it by co-incidence http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardware-components-aftermarket-upgrades/397075-amd-griffin-cpu-undervolting-guide-ql-rm-si-zm.html

 

Hmm, I set it up as a startup service but it doesn't load my profile. I will try it as a logon service.

 

Gah! I can get it to load as a service just fine, but it's not reading my profile, it uses the default one even though I use the -lp:1 flag.

 

EDIT : Mine is working just fine

 

Are you starting it as a service like in that guide?

 

u probably have the .dat file in the wrong place, read the griffin instructions again
seer

 

I am using that guide letter for letter.

 

DAMN this POS DV6z!!!! What the hell is wrong with HP!!, can't even build a 740.00 laptop that can bust P2200...they ought to all be FIRED!

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/seeratlas/2197a.png

heheheh, yeah i'm kidding..lol. What an amazing little box this thing is..
and yes, p2200 is in there, i'm a hair's breath away...
oh, and btw, the new Graphics high score is P2217

"HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!!!" (HP and/or AMD, NOT me

Seer

Oh, Mac? I hate to tell you this, but ALL of my clocks...are far less than yours.even my B0 turbo..you should be able to hit very close to 2300 with that monster you have. It's in there somewhere.

 

Thanks SeerAtlas +1. I missed that little tidbit. Didn't realize there was a default .dat file created, just set Start in parameter to your dir and all set. The guide here at NBR omits that little tidbit, although I should have been thinking because I use Task Scheduler quite a bit. I guess that's what I get for following and not thinking.

 

np, and oh,btw, that's a serious paste job you pulled off there, ten degree drop at idle is massive!!

seer

 

Oh, one other little tidbit, for those 'i 7' guys that laugh at our llano apu's...i've got my cpu side of the apu now kicking butt on some pure cpu benches. It can now smoke an i7820, and is closing in on an i860. What i'd give for some fast 1600 ram that the dv6 can read

seer

 

Well, I wouldn't say it's a ten degree drop moreso than it's a proper paste job. I think at load, the system was just throttling back because the speeds were bouncing all over the place. Now they're solid.

Love the screen, the build, the blu-ray, battery life. Was just miffed at the overheating and game stuttering. I don't know if I have the crossfire licked yet, but so far running without crossfire on stock 11.6 hotfix drivers (from HP) am performing quite admirably.

So far GPU clock at 680/900 (stock 600/800). Haven't tried to push further yet. I may be able to actually break 2200 3DMark11 now too.

 

I honestly do not know how you pull off those scores man hahaha. Are you using 11.6b or 11.8? Maybe I need to downgrade.

I might just forget about 2200 and wait till some better drivers come out, and software that lets me change my gpu voltages that does not crash. Sapphire trixx crashes on me waaaay to easily.

 

Well glad you got a "player" Wing to get you started upwards, i've replaced my stock clocks to autoboot to 722/822. I get one degree difference near as I can tell, and everything else just flies. AND you do have a serious shot at the 2200 as I have NEVER been able to get my gpu mem stable at anywhere near 900, so like Mac, you guys have the advantage from the starting gate. It's 'in there' so go get that 2200 hell go get 2250! LOL

seer

 

What are you getting? I'm going to start with 11.6b and see how that fares. For some reason I have a screenshot from my last DV6z labeled as DV6z stock with 3DMark11 score as 1726. I'm not seeing that here unless I run 2.4GHz. Actually just ran it at 2.4GHz and 680/900 and it gave me 1856.

Just started pushing it. Am at 780/910 so far. Seem vRAM won't do much more than 910. Also, if you notice in my photo of the motherboard, there is no cooling of the GDDR5 and room to put some heatsinks on there. I may get some and see if that helps, next time I feel brave enough to open my machine a bit.

Then my next task is like you, optimize performance with temperature. If I can boost my clocks by a decent amount and keep temps within a few degrees of stock, it will be great.

 

I did a complete driver cleanout and went with 11.6a. then added the config patch 7 (3) i think its called. 11.881 was unstable for me, got bsod's while testing. I never get bsod's with 6(a) unless I throw my cpu clocks to the moon, but as you've seen, that sucks too much off the igp and can actually lower your score. Look at your P score vs your graphics..you got less P and huge graphics...while mine are almost identical...its like the movie..the karate kid.."Seek Balance Danielson!" heheh.

remember you have a 'hard' tdp ceiling, that is NOT based on thermal measurement, but rather on thermal PREDICTION based on activity...and amd's algorithm shuts you down when you hit it, so don't set to spike thru the roof, try to get everything up there a fraction below it.

seer

 

So I can see the new bios has been downloaded a few times. Has anyone tested it already?

 

first, i'm running xfire.
I suggest you fire up the ccc and hit reset to defaults. Think about what you assign to what. I have never run on just the 6750 as you're throwing away 400 perfectly good shader/cores on the igp

The next thing to think about is hp recommended vs. 'high performance'...start up hwinfo so you can watch the cores, then switch between the two..that will tell you something..

lastly, think about 'ganged vs unganged'...again hwinfo and/or systemmonitor will 'whisper' in your ear...

oh, and i would DIE for 910..hell I'd give my left arm for 850...


seer

 

So,
I've had a lot of luck undervolting the 3510MX in windows. The 9cell battery now has a battery projection of >8 hours, which I think is quite phenomenal!

Then, I switched over to linux, and POOF, battery life diminishes. 9cell reports about 1.5hrs, 6cell 1hr. It clearly has no idea about running the processor efficiently. Has anyone made any headway in undervolting in linux? I'm using Linux Mint, so anything that works for Ubuntu should work for mint as well.

@LLStarks, I tried installing the driver you had suggested. I can't seem to get it to install. I must be doing something wrong. Will try again later today.

edit: I tried running TurionPowerControl and PHC. Both don't support llano yet. Any other leads?

 

LOL, you need a linux group seems to me that I came across some guys running natty narwhale who had the whole Dv6z running like a champ. Give the ubuntu guys a google and you should find em.

seer

 

Well scored 2100 3DMark11. Don't feel like pushing it more at the moment, just so happy to have a cool and stable system now.

Anything above 800 GPU and 900 GPU Mem start to become unstable very quickly. But so far 800/900 are rock solid. So far haven't seen a need for that though. Will fine tune for temps now.

I think I'll just stick with the stock 11.6b package for now, wait to see what HP/AMD comes up with down the road here, and also allow for overclocking.

 

I did, but it fails saying something about bad checksum or something like that.

Edit:
Here you go:

Spoiler

 

In cpuz does your guys discrete show up? CPU-Z Validator 3.1

 

the f20 bios? i got it fine