*HP dv7t Quad Edition (429X / 5XXX series) Owners Lounge*

There is an option in display

17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)

17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1600 x 900)
+$50.00

what is the difference ?

 

Infinity is edge to edge glass.

Do a search, and you will find a post in which someone put two dv7's side by side...one with Infinity, one without...

 

btw, in case anyone is wondering, the SSD that HP sells with their dv7 is this one...its suppose to be pretty good...

pretty nice, i'm very happy with it so far...very fast start ups and shut downs...programs run so much faster then my sony with a regular HD...

thank you HP for that sick deal...

 

18Gb IIRC, I already put some small programs in...but removed the recovery partition.

 

i was going to ask about that...i already created the 8 dvd recovery disks, i'm a tick away from deleting my recovery partition on my ssd too...any reason why i shouldn't?

 

If you already created the recovery disks, you don't need the recovery partition anymore. (I actually made ISO backups too of the disks and stored it on the 1Tb)

Also, that's a big chunk of ssd space. 32gb you can use for some more apps.

 

don't know what to tell ya buddy, i haven't tried any games yet...but do try those settings and see what happens...

anywho, i removed the recovery partition after making a backup image too..

just a couple of minor nuances...man what the heck was so hard about engineering the touch pad about 1/2 inch to the left so it aligns with the space bar? man that's so dumb...i'm not really complaining because I always use a mouse, but if they would have aligned the touch pad, i bet most of the people complaining about the touchpad would not be...

i'm not used to having the up and down arrow on one key space...it's kind of annoying, but i'm sure i'll get used to it...i'm also used to having a dedicated buttons for some things...llike internet or screen on/off...but i can get used to it, no biggie...

the keyboard is ok...for me, the feel and response doesn't feel the best but it's nothing too big to complain about...i do love the numerical keyboard since i do some numbers work sometimes...

 

Thanks, I am thinking about the 64 GB SSD because of the cost!!!

 

@deucelee, I would have gone with that HP SSD if I knew it was an Intel X-25. Very happy with my Intel 120 GB ssd. The Intel 160 SSD costs so much more than the 120 !!!

 

no doubt, if it wasn't for that ridiculous discount, i would have never even gone with a SSD...but because of it, it was like i bought a regular dv7 at walmart or costco and got the SSD for free, and even got several more perks...but I hear you, i would have never paid $400 for one under normal circumstances...like i said, thank you HP for the sick, sick deal...

 

Hello,

I just got my new dv7-4290us yesterday from the HP online store. The first thing I noticed when I started playing with it, was that it sounded like the fan was running all the time. It's not very loud, but kind of a constant low rpm drone. So I called HP support and they had me go into the bios and turn off the "fan always on" setting, but all that did was cause the fan to blow really hard every 20 seconds or so, which was a worse situation than before. The HP tech thought I could be hearing the hard drive, but when I changed the fan bios setting I could distinguish what was drive noise because the fan was silent. Besides, wouldn't the drive be silent once power management spun it down? He then looked for a bios update, but one isn't available. Finally, after dealing with three different tech guys, they told me they would contact me on Monday for information on what I guess is going to be an exchange.

So what do you guys think? Should I exchange this for a new one, or is this normal operation for these Quad Core machines? I don't really trust the tech guys at HP support , so I want to get the opinion of other dv7t/dv7-4290us owners before I ship it back to HP. Do your units constantly make a low whirling sound? Shouldn't this thing be near silent when it's sitting for a while under no load? Or is it always making some kind of noise? Has this been an issue for anyone else?

Thanks You.
JP

 

What were your temps? ambient? did you own a quad i7 laptop previous to this?

 

My copy paste from thread I created on a spanish forum, it´s obviously in spanish but the pictures speak for themselves:

 

i wouldn't worry about it...

it did the same thing for me too, but after i got rid of all the junkware and ran msconfig to remove junk from start up, my laptop runs just fine now...

 

It's like this for all dv6 and dv7 owners. It only has one (relatively weak) fan to cool both the CPU and the GPU, so that fan needs to run constantly to keep the system "cool." Even if it had a dual-core CPU, the story would be the same story. It's how the cooling system does it's job. You're unlikely to ever find a non-ULV laptop where the fan turns off completely (even with a dual-core CPU and integrated graphics); you can only hope to find one with an effective cooling system that's near silent at idle. HP is especially bad in this regard, so you may want to look elsewhere.

 

Which brand laptop has the most effective cooling system? Also, don't you think it is possible that the new SB i5's from HP (whenever they become available) will run cooler and quieter?

 

It really varies by model for most OEMs. You'd have to do your homework.

No. The problem is the cooling system. The only thing that might work out is running on integrated graphics.

 

Do you think we will eventually see any SB i7's make use of the integrated graphics? Will they run cool enough to make a difference?

 

alstrike
+1

 

Hey all, just wondering if there is any way i can play Region B bluray discs in my Region A player?
I'm asking this because i am in Ireland, and all our discs are region B.

thanks

 

With the AnyDvd HD software you shouldn´t have a problem with that.

 

Hey alstrike, i tried AnyDvd HD, no joy, It's telling me i need a "critical update" but i cant download said update because i only downloaded the trial software. Any other ideas?

 

@Bravoexo In cpuid HD monitor the core temps are around 45°c at idle. I've never owned a quad core laptop so I don't know if I should expect all this fan noise.
This thing is by no means quiet. Even when your not doing anything on it, you can hear the fan humming away. It kind of sounds like when you crank up your stereo too loud with no music playing and you hear all that white noise. So this is normal for all dv7 huh? I may still return it for another one and hope the fan is quieter. Just hope the next one doesn't have some other issue .

 

There are already some laptops that use the SB IGP and even some using NVidia Optimus switchable graphics.

 

Try setting Coolsense to quietest, and see if that changes anything. I have not been bothered by fan noise at all since I am in a pretty noisy environment already. (even at night, I don't hear them)

 

How does it compare to the XPS 17 ? The one owned by Bravo.

 

You mean blu-ray of 4290us doesn't read region B discs only A region?

 

@tubby1980 and aldam,

I believe you can choose and change the region. A certain limit of changing, but it changeable. The HP mediasmart player has A, B, and C to choose from.

 

Yes (integrated graphics), I know this is not a DV7, but will be based on the same mobo:
HP Pavilion dv6-4002tu Entertainment Notebook PC (LK384PA) specifications - HP Home & Home Office products

Will they run cool enough?:
With a i7-2630QM, once turbo is halted and the CPU is running a steady x20 mutlipier, comsumption is ~35W, this will should allow the intergated graphics some of the remaining TDP upto 45W in theroy.
By taking a HD 6570 out of the motherboard = less for the cooling system, and only has to take care of the CPU.

I know from testing that I have carried out using software tools and prime95, that the CPU will do a few tricks to keep the CPU at ~90c.
Usually means slowing the CPU down by cutting off turbo in most cases.
I would guess that integrated would make some difference to temps being lower at certain points of loading the processor, although I still think that once the CPU is loaded heavily, it will still get to 90c.

btw. I have forced the i7-2630QM to 100c, HP's BIOS sends it into thermal overload, and forces the laptop to hibernation. When you power on again, you will get a thermal overload warning during POST.

 

Obviously.

You can "try" the full version for a week and if it works for you then buy it.

 

Just see this:
Intel Identifies Chipset Design Error, Implementing Solution - Yahoo! Finance

I am confused if the fault chip affects the Sandy Bridge?

Anyone hears anything?

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HP DV7-4290us - i7-2630qm (Sandy Bridge) AMD HD6570 1Gb GDDR5
6Gb DDR3 1333 640 GB 7200Rpm
Blu Ray writer 17.3" LED LCD (1600x900)
Windows 7 Home Premium

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by tubby1980
Hey all, just wondering if there is any way i can play Region B bluray discs in my Region A player?
I'm asking this because i am in Ireland, and all our discs are region B.

thanks

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I don't know how to put a Quote in the reply so just cut and paste. Sorry.

From the Control Panel, it says we can only change the region 5 times. The region you selected at the last (5th) change would become the permanent region that your blu-ray can play.

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HP DV7-4290us - i7-2630qm (Sandy Bridge) AMD HD6570 1Gb GDDR5
6Gb DDR3 1333 640 GB 7200Rpm
Blu Ray writer 17.3" LED LCD (1600x900)
Windows 7 Home Premium

 

From what the article says, it does NOT affect the CPU chip, but does affect a chip that is part of the SB chipset. So, yes, it affects the new DV7's.

According to the article, Intel is working with manufacturers to replace system boards (replacement of system boards necessary since the chipset is soldered to the system board).

Sounds like a big mess brewing. HP support is bad enough already, I can't wait to hear the myriad of excuses why they aren't willing to fix this (if, in fact, this article is true).

 

I appreciate all the post in the dv6tQE/dv7tQE pages. I finally received mine today after returning a dv7t SE I received earlier this month. I just have a question about adding a SSD boot drive. I'm in no hurry to add it right away. My question is after installing the new drive, how easy is it to delete the OS from the original HD? Do I have to partition the OS from the original HD right away before adding new programs to ease that removal later on, or is that not necessary? Sorry for my limited knowledge. Thanks for your help.

 

Well, if anything happens... I'll be the first to know, and let you know.

 

If it is the P67 southbridge then we are in trouble. My dv7 is not even here yet!!!

Update:

Bad news for SB early adopters

Quote:
Intel announced earlier this morning that it has discovered a flaw in the 6-series chipsets that accompany the new processor family. While it reassures users that they can "continue to use their systems with confidence," the chipmaker has nonetheless halted chipset shipments . . .
. . . Intel adds that it will "work with its OEM partners to accept the return of the affected chipsets," and it plans to "support modifications or replacements needed on motherboards or systems."

Yes, that likely means the replacement of all Sandy-Bridge-based motherboards, laptops, and pre-built PCs currently on store shelves or already in the hands of consumers.

A recall of ALL SB MBs, notebooks and pre-built PCs is going to cost Intel a fortune.

The reason:
. . . "In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives."

Sloppy.

 

You can just click quote button on his message or use the [/quote] tags.

@tubby1980 , if you are still confused by HyTl11 instructions.
What he meant by is either going to Device Manager via control panel, to the properties page of the media drive ie your blueray drive, go to region tab, change it from there. Or right click on any removable storage drive, hardware tab, select blueray drive, properties , region tab, and then select.

 

Should we consider contacting HP within 21 days (return period) regarding this INTEL report

Intel lowers profit margin outlook on 6 Series chipset error - Jan. 31, 2011

As non of us like to see their investment crap out on them because of some DEGRADING chip error.

What ya'all think ?

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HP dv7tqe - 640GB 7200, Blu-ray burner, SSDNow V+ 128GB

 

Well, the resale value of this laptop sure sunk today because of the news.

 

I guess all we can do is wait. I've been reading conflicting reports on whether or not it applies to notebook CPUs. Most of the tech blogs I've read have said that the NB Sandy Bridge uses a different chipset than the chipsets that are being recalled (6 series), which are supposedly for desktops. At least when I called HP today, they told me my order isn't being delayed. Oh, well, if they do decided to recall and upgrade, at least it will be on their dime and not mine. My current Dell is already turning into a piece of s***, so I would take laptop with statistically minimal, theoretical, way down the road problem anyday over my current laptop.

 

here's some more info and a decent read on the issue...

it says the manufacturers are meeting with intel today to figure out what they're going to do about it...

i wonder if it's cheaper for them to just give us a new laptop and giving the old one back vs taking our old one, ripping apart and replacing parts from it...

 

Update from Engadget:

Intel finds Sandy Bridge chipset design flaw, shipments stopped and recalls beginning -- Engadget

 

A couple hours ago, the Fedex guy delivered my DV7. I let it reach room temperature and just fired it up. I learned about the design flaw before the delivery but decided to accept it anyway hoping that it will work out OK. Owning a couple of intel stocks, this is a double whammy for me.

 

Well, Congrats anyway, Husky55.

Let's hope that the HM65 isn't affected.

 

intel news for 01/31/2011

Intel Corporation has discovered a design issue in a recently released support chip, the Intel® 6 Series, and has implemented a silicon fix. The Second Generation Core i7 quad core based systems have this design issue. (The HP DV7 laptop we ordered is a second generation Core i7 quad core based system). Intel has corrected the design issue, and has begun manufacturing a new version of the support chip which will resolve the issue. The company expects to begin delivering the updated version of the chipset to customers in late February and expects full volume recovery in April.

 

that's great but what's the process to get this fixed for those of us that already have our laptops? i think most of us purchased directly from HP too...that what I'd like to know...

 

From the Engadget update it might appear that the dv7 might not be affected so I will still hold on to hope that I will not have to return my new dv7. Crossing my fingers...

 

I used SIW (system information for windows) to find out the id of the south and north bridge, but they are too new for SIW. I really hope that our dv7s are not impacted but I am delaying doing anything to it (already bought the HD caddy kit for a ssd, 8 mb sodimm), installing new software etc...this is a pain but there are worse things in life. Just a little bump!!!

 

I think the notebook SB are affected as well. I don't know how probative this is, but out of curiosity, I was going to other company websites to see how they are handling the recall. Well, Toshiba has completely yanked off their Sandy Bridge laptops to order from their website, and when I used the Chat option to talk to a CSR, they indicated that they were being pulled for "an update from Intel." I asked for time frame and they said it should be within the month. I can only assume that means that the OEMs are being told that the NB chipsets are affected as well, since I can't imagine the company would stop selling them if they weren't. Mine is supposed to be due on Feb. 14th and was just sent to the factory for production today, so I'm waiting for HP's response to this and see what they do.

 

Just found out that the intel wifi 1000 bgn with my dv7 only works in the 2.4 GB spectrum. My old intel 5100 in my dv8 is a dual bands, 2.4 and 5 GB.