*HP dv8 Owners Lounge*

Indeed, there's the extra step of using a restore CD/DVD to restore an image to a drive. (A bootable USB flash drive can also be used in lieu of CD/DVD). But it does work as far as cloning a drive. The image file it creates is the "clone" of the drive that it saves to a medium of your choice. Much in the same way Acronis or Ghost does it. In that way, it is a one step process. The process with the restore CD/DVD is only required when you are restoring to a main OS drive. If restoring to a 2nd drive or external, it is handled by the program running in windows.

Agreed. Acronis is my first choice. I've had flawless success with it over the years. Works well with SSD's. Though it doesn't preserve the partition alignment in certain circumstances but the work around is easy enough.

In any event, I figured I'd mention Macrium Reflect as a good free alternative.

 

I don't think I agree on that as it requires saving an image as in intermediate step and I have no place to put it in the context of my needs. That seems far different from what Ghost does for me in one step.

I guess I'm looking for a free program that performs "one step cloning" directly to the destination drive, then, and one step cloning to another drive to restore it. It seems Macrium Reflect may do half of that.

I agree as far as the Seagate (by Acronis) DiscWizard. I only used the Acronis TIH during its demo period and found it worked well enough to declare it capable of performing "one step cloning directly to the destination drive'.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Right, I see what you mean now. You mean direct drive-to-drive method of cloning. Not drive image based cloning.

Only free program that I know that does that is DriveImage XML. I've used it once but didn't like the interface. Looking at their website screenshots, it seems to have improved a bit since.

DriveImage XML Backup Software - Data Recovery Product

 

I've used it but had the same reaction as you. If you use a Seagate drive anywhere in the system, Seagate DiscWizard is free (indistinguishable from Acronis TIH - probably since Acronis wrote it for Seagate) and really works well.
DiscWizard End User License Agreement | Seagate

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Excellent. Will store this away for future reference. Thanks.

 

I've just downloaded it to test it. It's now at v2.13 and still free for home use.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Click on the volume icon > then click the laptop at the top of the bar > click enhancements tab > make sure loudness equalization is unchecked.

Hopefully that helps you out.

 

I did a fresh install on Win 7 Ultimate, I have a couple of questions:

1) How do I get the volume to display on the screen when touching the illuminated button? Bass and treble also?

2) How do I get the rest of the buttons to work?

I tried the software from HP's site, doesn't seem to work.

3) Has anyone noticed after you empty the trash the icon disappears but the words Recycle Bin are still there? Is there a fix? I have Win 7 on 4 different computers this is the only one it happens with.

 

Thanks 2.0.
This thread is a real education - I've learnt a lot in the last week or so!

Guess I'm going to wait a month or so on the SSD and go for the bigger one. Can't seem to find the Samsung online at the prices people are mentioning though - can anyone point me in the right direction by PM?

Thanks again,
Nice.

 

Your PM is not accessible - Just contact HP - I bought mine ($350 including overnight delivery) through their online Parts Store.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

I'll quote myself from an earlier post that contains the HP part #'s as well as links to the part store (SSD is listed as #3):

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-owners-lounge-forum/426674-official-hp-dv8-owners-lounge-339.html#post6268013

 

There are some core files only found in the OEM software that are no longer in the updates files found on the regular HP site.

However, there are some older files that work great if you care to use them.

Not sure what your talking about as far as the "other buttons".
Sounds like you may not have the quick launch drivers installed.

Try this.....
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<!--[if !supportLists]-->1. <!--[endif]-->Go into Control Panel and uninstall HP MEDIASMART SmartMenu
<!--[if !supportLists]-->2. <!--[endif]-->Also, in Control Panel uninstall HP Quick Launch Buttons.
<!--[if !supportLists]-->3. <!--[endif]-->Go to C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard and delete HP MediaSmart Folder ~~NOTE: These folders may have been deleted during the Uninstall Process .~~
<!--[if !supportLists]-->4. <!--[endif]-->Go to C:\Prgram Files (x86)\Hewlett-Packard and delete HP Quick Launch Buttons Folder ~~NOTE: The Program Files (x86) is for 64 bit users. You may need to find the HP Quick Launch Buttons Folder in a different location ~~
<!--[if !supportLists]--> 5. <!--[endif]--> Reboot Computer. <o>></o>>
<!--[if !supportLists]--> 6. <!--[endif]--> If you have “HP Tone Control Utility v2.00 A 2009-09-28” installed, uninstall that too. <o>></o>>
<!--[if !supportLists]--> 7. <!--[endif]--> Reboot Computer. <o>></o>>
<!--[if !supportLists]-->8. <!--[endif]--> Download HP MEDIA SMART MENU Version 2.10. Here is the direct link.
<!--[if !supportLists]--> 9. <!--[endif]--> ~DV8 Users Skip This Step!! Download BIOS Version F.31. Here is the direct link. <o>></o>>
<!--[if !supportLists]-->10. <!--[endif]--> Download HP Quick Launch Button Version 6.50.8.1. Here is the direct link.
<!--[if !supportLists]-->11. <!--[endif]--> ~DV8 Users Skip This Step!! ~Install Bios Version F.31. ~~NOTE: Computer should reboot on its own. ~~
<!--[if !supportLists]-->12. <!--[endif]--> Install HP Quick Launch Buttons Version 6.50.16.1 link is here.
<!--[if !supportLists]-->13. <!--[endif]--> Reboot Computer.
<!--[if !supportLists]-->14. <!--[endif]--> Install HP MEDIA SMART MENU Version 2.10
<!--[if !supportLists]-->15. <!--[endif]--> Reboot Computer.
<!--[if !supportLists]-->16. <!--[endif]--> All Done - Sliders should now work.

 

The recycle bin was an issue with Vista and still continues to be with Windows 7. On my computer, it does that once in a while. You can right click on the desktop and go to personalization. Click on change icons and unclick recycle bin and press apply. You will see the recycle bin disappear from the desktop. Then click it again and it should appear!

 

Hi Alan: Where are these quick launch buttons? I have installed the drivers/software for them but don't know where to look for them?

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Phil,

I believe the "quick launch buttons" are the six white led-backlit capacitive touch buttons controlling the dvd player and invoking the Mediasmart suite (the squiggly led on the far left).

And, by the way, I'm baaaack, fully exonerated with apologies received and assurances such problems will not occur again. This said, I was having a very bad day with a very serious medical problem and could have been more restrained in my comments to that certain Mod. I was assured that my "transgressions" were minor by comparison and I do not expect to again be "banned for life."

Jeff

 

Congrats and very glad you are reinstated and back with us.

But a little restraint, especially with dealing with those in authority, is not a bad idea to keep in mind, IMO, of course. My general rule of thumb is to try and not say anything in a post I wouldn't say if I was talking face to face. Has usually kept me out of trouble.

 

Jeff, thanks. I think you're right ... they seem to work fine.

Welcome back. I tried to explain (if you read back posts) that you weren't feeling well ... hope you're feeling better now.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

For some people I know, Peter, that might get them in more hot water for disrespectful remarks! I think a corollary to your advice: Read and preview each post BEFORE submitting it. I find it gives you time to calm down a bit and adjust the rhetoric down a notch in your final "pass" over the post.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Thanks Phil and woods3336,
HP site now shows $559 for the 256Gb drive, so I guess I missed the boat. Never mind, I can pick up the 128 Kingston here and not worry about shipping from US etc.

Cheers,
Nice.

 

Wow! That's a large jump, isn't it?! Sorry it is so volatile... FWIW, it was only $250 plus S&H when I first started looking into it, myself, back in Feb. and went up $100 by the time I "pulled the trigger."

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Please stay on-topic in this thread. Thank you.

 

LoveLaptops(Jeff):

Mr. Jeffries seems to have removed several replies containing references to the "recent unpleasantness" and must have inadvertently removed, as well, my message to you about removing and reinstalling drivers and software involving QuickLaunch buttons and MediaSmart apps. If you didn't get to see it before he removed it, I can reply again to your question. It seemed totally "on topic" to me but I guess he didn't think so.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Phil,

I believe Mr. Jeffries removed our posts for entirely valid reasons - they were certainly off-topic (notwithstanding your embedded suggestion to me re: touch controls, which like the proverbial "baby," went out with the inappropriate, off-topic "bathwater" of our recent posts. I take full responsibility for this. Any further discussion of that topic should have been done in PMs (or, for privacy, by exchanging personal emails - I will PM mine to you), which is how I plan to handle it in the future. As much as I feel strongly that this is "our" forum I mean that metaphorically; we are not on Facebook! In truth these forums are owned by a for-profit company and they have every right to keep them focused as they wish.

My bad, but it's definitely in the past. If anyone has anything further to say in this vein, let's keep it off the NBR site.

All the best, and my eternal thanks for everyone's support,

Jeff

 

And now I have the oh-so-famous treble/bass indicator popup problem.
My machine starts and, as soon as Windows is loaded, treble indicator goes haywire! I did some search and found out it's, unfortunately, a common problem...
So, any of you guys, is this a hardware or software problem? I got many suggestions on what to do (update BIOS, reinstall drivers, disable service, among others), but no one was detailing what exactly was causing the problem.

So, what should I do? Can't stand these controls popping up for minutes. If I leave it alone, it stops after 3 or 5 minutes. But still, pretty annoying.

Thanks!

 

I didn't spend a lot of time diagnosing but AFAICT, it went away after I updated the drivers for nVidia video and QuickLaunch buttons with the versions posted on the Dvx Drivers thread back in February. Hope this gives you something to get started with.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

on the page before this one post # 3712, I posted the only fix I know for those who have installed a virgin copy of win7. Seems there are files with the OEM software that did not transfer with the latest versions of HP Mediasmart Smartmenu is no so smart!

If you did not install a virgin copy of windows and are rather using the OEM HP version of windows that came with the computer, I would try Phil's suggestion first.

 

Notwithstanding how they got removed, I presume this means you got to read the "on-topic" content, then. That's good.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Thanks, Alan and Phil

So I'll assume it is really a software problem. I'll search for this DVX Drivers and Alan's fix. I'm using OEM Windows and, as suggested, will try Phil's fix first.

By the way, do you guys know if I want to install Windows Ultimate, do I have to buy a new one or is there a way to use my HP license or something? And would be better for me installing a virgin copy of Windows? Is there some good advantage?

 

Regarding the bass/treble control going haywire problem, rest assured that there is a fix although I can't remember exactly what I did. I think I followed the fix that Alan posted or a similar version, possibly with modifications I deemed appropriate for people who still have the OEM HP load installed. Anyway, my tone buttons work and don't cause any problems although the graphics are still not quite perfect.

I had a key for Windows Ultimate and a Windows installation disk and just used those to do a Windows "Anytime" upgrade right over the HP OEM installed version of Windows. Took about 5 minutes and didn't mess anything up.

Actually, it isn't necessary but before I did the upgrade I put the Windows installation disk on a bootable SDHC card using the Win 7 DVD USB download tool which automates the process of putting the Windows installation media on any memory card or USB flash memory drive and making it bootable. Installs and upgrades go faster from flash memory instead of optical media (and it's more convenient to keep a small SDHC card in my laptop bag than the installation DVD).

 

Looks like HP is getting ready to release a new version of the DV8t. They've removed the pictures of it, stuck a "new" label on it. Looks like they haven't quite finished updating the specs and configuration choices yet.

 

I wish I had bought the Win7 Home version on my Dv8 and done the anytime upgrade to upgrade to Win 7 Ultimate. Unfortunately, I got the Dv8 with the Win 7 Pro and, though ultimate is only $20 higher at retail than Win 7 Pro, the anytime upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 7 Ultimate is over $100 more - TOTALLY ABSURD!

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Yes, I noticed that yesterday (-1200, I believe) but said nothing since the specs weren't yet available. Let the speculations begin!

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Unless you have some good reason to install from scratch, I don't see any need to do so.

To upgrade to Ultimate, run %windir%\system32\WindowsAnytimeUpgradeUI.exe on your machine and follow the instructions to select upgrade and pay, and install upgrade. Should be quite easy. It's easy but may not be the lowest cost method depending on what you're upgrading from!

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Definitely not the lowest cost method. . . You can use any valid W7 pro or ultimate key to upgrade in place to either version, respectively. So if you can get a working key from someplace else for less than MS's upgrade price, I would go for it.

 

It's about the right price if you can upgrade from Win 7 Home Ultimate (but I didn't know what version Chapter 81 had) as I previously wrote. From Win7 Pro, it's absurd !(as I previously said)

I guess any upgrade at a lower price is cheaper, right?

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Sorry, forgot to mention this "detail".

I'm running Windows 7 Pro. Haven't checked the prices yet, but I believe it won't be worth upgrading. All I wanted to know is about these drivers errors and stuff, if upgrading (doing a fresh install) would prevent any bad thing that happens in OEM versions.
What I like about Windows Ultimate is the possibility to change languages, since I'm brazilian. Well, but I can handle english pretty good, I think.
So, it was more regarding any advantages, if so.

Edit: oh, by the way, I restarted twice already and the treble/bass problem stopped occurring. I'm hoping it was an unique episode. Guess I'll wait for it to happen again, before taking an action.

 

I don't know any way to upgrade installed Win 7 Pro to Win 7 Ult for a reasonable price (e.g., less than $40) ... if you find a way, please post here or PM me. I would do it for a reasonable price but see no point when the current price is what it is. I think nothing is wrong with the HP install of Win 7... I think that some drivers had bugs and when the right ones were updated, problems went away and I've been problem-free since end of January.

I doubt that, if the correct drivers were to be applied, the time/effort of performing a clean install is justified. Just remember that most of the drivers are fine or you'd have many more problems AND performing a clean install requires chasing down and installing dozens of drivers correctly and that is fraught with risks and other problems.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Hi,

Thanks guys for all the replies. However, I haven't got a reply for my 1st and 4th questions. If somebody would comment on these, that would be awesome.

Also, some more questions:

a. If I wanted to get access to the RAM for some reason, how hard it is on the dv8t?

b. I read somewhere that I need some special brackets w/ screws to move the 500GB HDD to the second bay when I get a SSD for the primary one. Is that so?

c. Also, I'll be primarily using dv8t for HD video editing. With SSD, will it be a best investment?

Thanks.

 

I agree with this 100%. Plus the way W7 manages services, ones that aren't being used don't take up much, if any resources, i.e., don't slow the machine down appreciably. And it's very easy to uninstall any so called "bloatware" one doesn't need or want. . , easier than chasing down and installing all the correct drivers to get everything working properly after having done a clean install, imo.

 

The screen on the DV8 is not "dim." It may not go as bright as a screen that has an LED backlight but it is not at all dim. I don't even need to turn the brightness up all the way on mine (but I don't use it in direct sunlight either). It's the best screen I have used yet on a laptop. Imo, it is in another class entirely (a much better class) than any of HP's screens that have less resolution than 1920 x 1080p.

The ram is accessible from the bottom of the machine behind a plastic cover. Just requires unscrewing a few Phillips head screws to remove the cover. Iows, very easy to access the two ram slots.

You do need special mounting hardware to mount a second hard drive or an SSD. The hardware is available from HP or from various 3rd party sources. That was one reason why I opted to order my DV8 with a second hard drive . . . so I would get the mounting hardware for two drives without having to purchase it separately. The extra cost for the second hard drive was not unreasonable considering the mounting hardware was included. Plus having both drives warrantied by HP is another advantage. They are already shipping me a replacement by one day express (arrives today) for one of my 500 GB drives that is giving me some funky Smart test numbers (on 3 different Smart criteria) indicating (to me, not HP but I convinced them) it is probably going to fail soon.

 

I wouldn't have it any other way ...

Regards,
- - Phil

 

I agree with this (added after previous was posted?) 100%

Regards,
- - Phil

 

I find the Dv8 screen too bright for my tastes even in a lighted room.I had to turn down the screen brightness to 60% (same place I set it for "on-battery" options). I doubt that anyone would say, at 100%, that it's not bright and contrasty enough for them.

the special bracket is needed to mount a second drive. HP sells one for about $40, It is also included with the 256 gb Samsung SSD when it is bought from HP.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Thanks guys.

I placed my order on May 27th and as per HP support, it will be built on June 13th or so.

When I customized, I didn't go for a second hard drive option. Do you guys think that there is an advantage in going for dual HDDs (the primary being SSD)?

What brand is the 128GB SSD in the dv8t? Does it also have the TRIM function?

Is it too late to modify my order by calling them?

Thanks.

 

It looks like HP has possibly lowered the price of the DV8 today. You might want to run your configuration through their site and see if it got cheaper. If so, you could probably get a price adjustment by calling HP.

I thought there was an advantage in getting dual hard drives for the reason I already stated (assuming you are intending to eventually run two hard drives or an SSD plus a hard drive in the machine). But you can always purchase the mounting hardware separately later. One other (possibly dubious) advantage is that if the drives are installed by HP, they should both be protected by HP's warranty as I already mentioned and also by HP's shock protection/head parking software (forget the name right now). Phil is working on trying to figure out how to enable support for that on drives that were not installed by HP. I'm sure he will let us know if/when he is successful in that.

As far as I know, HP uses Samsung for their SSD's, unless something has changed recently. I don't think they are coming (from HP at least) with Trim enabled yet, but Phil is more knowledgeable than me on this. He managed to enable Trim on his HP provided SSD on his own.

I don't know whether or not it is too late to modify your order, but I think price adjustments could still be made.

Another thing is it looks like a refreshed version of the DV8 is about to be announced/offered for sale. HP was in the process of updating their web site about the DV8 last time I looked several hours ago. You might be able to call HP and make sure you get the latest version of the DV8. If it was me, I would probably try to do that. If too late for that, you have 21 days after you receive your DV8 to return it to HP for any reason (free return shipping too) so you could always order a new one after the new models are available and return the one you already ordered. Just something to consider.

Based on what I've seen so far (with the web site not fully updated) it looked like the changes were just cosmetic, but it's very likely HP hadn't fully updated the specs when I last looked at it.

 

There would be ... SSDs significantly improve responsiveness (aka latency), program loading and data transfer speeds (about 3 times as fast as HDDs), and extend battery life by cutting power usage (about 4-5 times less). They also reduce the amount of heat generated (3-4 times less) and wasted, and are considered several times more reliable and durable than HHDs.

Probably Samsung SSD since that's what HP has been offering but, to be sure, just call the customer support number on your order and ask.

I'm sure they can sell you the SSD as a separate sale item but to find out if they can update your order, I'd just call the customer support number on your order and ask the questions - they'd also be able to give you pricing. FWIW, my guess is that they'd have you cancel the original order and place it again to include the SSD as the primary drive. Of course, you'd have a different delivery date, order number, etc.

EDIT:Unfortunately, while the Dv8 has a lower price model with an i5 processor in place of an i7, their pricing on the 256gb SSD +500gb HDD combo is now $670 more than the 500gb HDD alone! OUCH! When I was looking to order last December, the upcharge for the 256gb SSD was $250 ... I wonder if this is the drop in value of the US$... So sorry about this price JUMP!

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Good! Maybe not. Depends on what you priced out. The Dv8 now offers a cheaper i5 processor and this may be the lower price you saw.

HP used to call it "Drive ProtectSmart", and now calls it "3D DriveGuard". That feature wouldn't apply to SSDs as they're not shock sensitive and have no heads to park.

Still trying with Peter's help and that of Woods3336 (NBR) but not there yet.

I got my SSD back in February IIRC, and updated it with Samsung's update package last month. HP has not yet responded with any updates of their own ... AFAICT, Samsung has shipped SSDs later in production than mine and they came through with later firmware that still doesn't support TRIM. Samsung has not released update packages for those later ones yet AFAIK. I have never heard of ANYONE buying a Samsung SSD through HP and reporting that it had TRIM support in its firmware!

Regards,
- - Phil

 

Since its hard to remember what all bloatware you originally had "and deleted" it would be good for someone with a brand new machine to make a list of everything loaded in "add remove programs" so those of us who have weeded through the needed progs verses the trash programs could comment on the need/benefit of keeping certain programs verses tossing them.

This would certainly make life easy for anyone who wants to clean an existing OEM system verses a virgin install.

I"m glad its possible now a days to simply clean the existing OEM and have good success....

Efficient trustworthy registry cleaners certainly help too.

Since you can't really get an HP laptop with no OS on it, its certainly cheaper to not have to buy a separate win7 disk like I did.

I would be willing to help compile a list if no one else wants to do it... however I wiped my original system, so I have no clue as to what all it originally had.

What "may" help is since my system has everything working "except HP drive protection" and it once was a virgin install, it could give clues as to whats needed if I were to post all of my system programs installed for the operation of the machine.

But I'm sure it may be more useful for someone like Phil who has cleaned his system to post all the needed drivers/software for the machine to function properly?

Any suggestions?

 

Wow - sounds like a long list... Alan, thanks for "volunteering" me!

I saw where someone already posted here the list of bloatware and teaseware that can be trashed without affecting system operability. They indicated what different stuff did and what was safe to remove, etc. I'll see if I can locate it. While I had cleared a lot of stuff of my original HP install before I originally saw it, it was well done and offered a few items I hadn't thought of.

Regards,
- - Phil

 

No problem.. anything else you need volunteered for?

Seems I saw a list somewhere too.... just can't remember what thread it was on and didn't know how updated it would be..... seems my system doesn't not have the latest of everything as the "latest" won't work on some items when dealing with a virgin system.....

Maybe its opening a bag of worms and a bad idea.... just a thought.