HP dv8000z 17" Turion

HP dv8000z "Coming Soon".

17" widescreen, 8 pounds, Turion CPU, up to 2 HDs... and the same GPU as the zv6000. Isn't anyone at HP into gaming? This will make a very nice Windows Media Center notebook though.

 

Wow-- Really cool. 17" wide screen at 8 pounds with two HDDs! It should be a big hit among DTR note books.

 

Can't believe they didn't put a better GPU in it, bummer. Nice find though.

 

Its about time they updated the old ZD's, but what about the GPU you idiots!?

 

I think it is good for Media Center, not a for gaming. One can have something like Divco USB HD TV Tuner with QAM connected, you can watch/record wonderful HDTV quality on this 17" screen. And has plenty power to run any application as it is offered with ML-40( Probably equivalent to Athlon64 3400+).

But should be good enough for basic gaming as it has dedicated Memory for GPU, something like X300.

How about ExpressCard/54 PC card slot? what is the purpose of this new standard and what is it used for? Any idea.

 

Why would they downgrade the GPU!? The current Intel ZD8000's can come with up to a Radeon X600. HP had better later on provide a better option just Dell later offered the X300 in their Dell 6000 series notebooks.

 

As stated the GPU is somewhat of a disappointment in some respect, but from the point of view of HP and their target I can see it.

Clearly, this IS a Media Center PC, not a gaming rig. Believe it or not, some people don't want to run HALO on their notebook, and therefore they do not want to pay for needless hardware they don't need.

I'm a pretty hardcore gamer, but I prefer to play on consoles becuase no PC on earth can match the production I get in terms of FPS, etc. Especially with the next gen coming so soon.

If I WERE going to game on a puter it'd be on a desktop. Really, I can't think of a worse format for hardcore gaming than a notebook, even a 17".

On the flip side this looks like a great design. Put the pad off center for more ergonomic use, and so you don't keep hitting it accidentally, and so you it's not above the latch.

Purple backlighting looks like it will be a real winner as does the all black case, a big improvement from the two-tone.

I'd rather have all silver, personally, but the black is sexy too.

I wonder if this is a preview of how the new dv's will look after redesign?

 

They should at least give an option for a dedicated GPU. Don't all media center laptops out right now have decent GPU's?

 

Here's a review of it.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1870375,00.asp

I love the design, looks just like the DV1000s and DV4000's. HP should release a 12 inch model like a DV2000 for example?

Since HP is using the Turion in this model, will they start using it in the DV1000s and DV4000s?

 

I do like the look of the dv series, I met one of their reps a couple of weeks back and he mentioned a new dv was under wraps and ready to be released and I was hoping it was a 12" style as that's my bag, but obviously they went the opposite direction. It's quite apparent this is targeted as a multimedia machine for families and not a gamer type. The AMD processor is an interesting move. Nice design, I echo the "I wish they'd offer a better GPU" sentiment though.

 

yeah if they made a 12 inch widescreen tablet, i'm sold! But I have to agree on the GPU choice like some said its designed for mutimedia and not hardcore gaming. Lets just hope the price reflects the good value...

but so far by using a turion processor, the price on this rig would be compared to 15 inch widescreens? or even less!

 

I like the looks - continues with the dv4000-style notebook. Also, the Turion is nice - good thing they got rid of the Pentium 4's.

But, I am on the whole disappointed. I know it probably is not a gaming notebook, but why would you put in a GPU as weak as the X200M? That's just plain silly!

At least we have a modern 17" AMD notebook now. It's a start.

 

I also would not play games on a notebook, I think its stupid to play games on them. For the price of a gaming notebook, I'll get a better gaming desktop and then an ultraportable laptop to watch DVDs and play older games on while I'm traveling.

But I would still like to see an option later on for a better GPU in this notebook. I mean, this is a desktop replacement, whereas the DV4000 is a mainstream notebook, yet it has a much better GPU than the DV8000 right now, that is SAD. Why are you taking backwards steps HP?

Isn't this is the very first AMD 17 inch notebook? Thats pretty cool and it can have up to 240 gig storage capacity with 2 120 gig hard drives. Impressive!!!

 

Nope. http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/D470K.asp
Which is being replaced by: http://www.amdboard.com/clevo_d900k.html

HP's notebook is considerably lighter and thinner though. Clevo's D900K is considerably more powerful. You can put Turions in last year's D470K if you want but the D900K is Socket 939 (Athlon 64 X2 dualcore in a notebook, anyone?).

The Radeon 200M cut HP's cooling and power requirements quite a bit compared to what a Radeon X700 or better would have demanded. Still, offering a decent GPU with a bigger power brick seems like the intelligent thing to do.

Getting a 17" notebook that weighs as much as my zv5000z is an interesting idea, but I've grown accustom to my external 20" LCD so the MSI-1029 remains my first choice if I had to upgrade right now (Turion CPU, X700 GPU, 15.4" widescreen).

 

The keyboard looks more like the dv1000 than dv4000.
Also, it is even thiner (1.48") than dv1000.

 

the offset touchpad is on the wrong side. i'd rather have my right hand do most of the clicking. great for lefties though.

 

I thought they would've put a better GPU in dv8000 too, but I just talked to my uncle about it (He works for AMD). He says HP is probably going to put in a better GPU down the road sometime. Bummer it didn't come with a better one, but its a first 17" Turion, that's a little bit of a perk.

 

HP ended up putting a better GPU in the DV4000 so there's hope for the DV8000. Now how about the DV1000 HP!? There's several other 14 inch widescreen notebooks with Radeon X600s!!

 

I see the logic, but where you go wrong is in not acknowledging flexibility in a notebook. Flexibility is what gives the best of both worlds. Gamers who want the GPU can have their cake, while non-gamers can cut that portion out an opt for integrated/low end graphics. If HP had the brains to stick an X700 in the dv4000, they would have some decency to put something at least on that level in a 17" notebook. The ONLY explanation I see is that they see this as a value oriented DTR (like all their AMD models) and that the P-M model they will unveil will have something much better.

 

So you're saying that they'll release a Pentium M version of the DV8000?

 

With two HDDs if it only supports Hardware RAID. It would be terrific to have 2 7200RPM laptop drives as RAID striping.

 

I would like to get more informations about this notebook. It surely looks like a good replacement for the zd8000 series, except for the graphic card.

Anybody knows if HP is planning to release a model with a x700? Otherwise, can the graphic card be changed? (mxm/axiom) Anyway, if you guys are true, I hope they'll release a 17''dv with P-M and a powerful graphic card... :centrino:

 

Well, if you are looking for an X700 in the HP - the dv4000/R4000T have it as an option (128MB). They make very good gaming notebooks.

 

HP (like Dell) is slated to roll out more Media Center notebooks at some point.

 

They really should give an option later on for a graphics card in this notebook, not having it at all as an option is just downright ludicrious if you ask me.

 

I don't know anything about that x200m. What exactly can it play? I am not into any of the intense 3-D shooters, but would it at least support some of the RPGs, Civilization IV, Black and White 2, things like that?

 

The X200M will run most all games out there. However, the question is, will they play them? The X200M comes in 3 form factors, a 16MB version, which is almost MIA, a 32MB version, which is found mainly in the Compaq V2000Z, and the 128MB version, found in the HP zv6000 and the Compaq R4000, as well as many budget-based AMD desktops. Now the X200M borrows system memory (RAM) to increase its own memory, therefore boosting the amount of addressable Video RAM available to the Video Card. The 16MB and 32MB versions can boost their VRAM up to 128MB. However, the 128MB version can boost its addressable RAM to 256MB, which is very impressive for an IGP/Dedicated VRAM card. So to answer your question, yes, the X200M should play all of those games at decent settings with about 1GB of RAM.

 

The dv8000z, zv6000, and R4000 come with the 128MB dedicated Radeon 200M version. The other HP/Compaq Turion notebooks have the shared-memory-only version.

HP has posted the service guide for the dv8000z. The HDs, memory, and even the miniPCI slot (WiFi) are easy to get to, but they've made it an absolute PITA to get to the CPU. It would be cool to get one and swap in a Turion MT40... sigh. Why couldn't they make the CPU easy to get to like they did on the zv5000z? (And how about updating the zv5000z BIOS to recognize E-series cores like the Turions, eh HP?)