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    How do I make basice desktop screen color adjustments - saturation, hue - on ATI control panel??

    Discussion in 'HP' started by lovelaptops, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Pardon me if this sounds like a noob or just no-brain question, but I have always had nVidia gpus and the ATi control panel has me baffled. All I want to do is to take the (oversaturated, overly red) standard display on ATI drivers and reduce the saturation and move it away from being overly red. On either the nVidia control panel or even the Intel GMA HD cp's have two completely perfect adjustments: Color Saturation and Hue; between the two of them one can reduce saturation and move (using "Hue") from red orientation to, well, not-red (ie, green and blue.)

    The problem I have with the CCC panel is that you can only adjust the gamma, brightness and hue individually for each of r, g and b, and as many times as I play around with these, I can't get the color to look natural. I know I can find new color profiles to use, but frankly that is a whole different undertaking with lotsof trial and error (though if someone knows a fairly straightforward approach, I'd be grateful), when I have always been able to get exactly the picture that is natural with those simple two adjustments: saturation and hue, aided further by the gamma, contrast and brightness adjustments for all colors at onde - and when you go to that on CCC, it removes all your tweaking of the individual colors. I can get the perfect color balance using the Intel GMA HD control panel, but lose the improved qualities of the ATI discrete gpu.

    Aarrgh! It seems so simple, yet so elusive. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Edit: make sure you're using the latest drivers, they changed the CCC a while ago
     
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    Just as an aside. You may have to duplicate whatever changes you make for the intel gpu's settings.
     
  4. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Thank you so much - that's exactly what I was looking for! The CCC I have definitely does not have that option. Would the latest CCC drivers on the HP Envy 14 site do it? Happen to have the rev # handy? Also, I have read countless complaints about problems installing and using CCC drivers - so much so, that I wonder why Nvidia isn't a universal favorite - but are there any pitfalls you would warn about?

    Thanks very much.

    Yes, that makes sense. Fortunately, the Intel GMA control panel already has those simple adjustments. Out of curiosity, do most people install a new color profile to get things right? Is there a "Color Profiles For Dummies" way to do so? The Windows calibration tool really doesn't help here, and I'm really not going to invest in a Spyder, especially since I hope to sell this laptop.

    Thanks to both of you for the help :)
     
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    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    There IS a color profile to fix the issues with the radiance.


    However, it's to fix the issues with the original radiance which had blue saturation not red. So...*shrugs* results will be mixed.

    DisplayProfile.rar

    that rar has the color profile (xrite) and something called displayprofile that lets you swap between color profiles quickly after installing them. 10 or so will show up but the only two that actually work will be the xrite you have to install and the srbg <insert a bunch of other stuff here> one
     
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    The version I'm running is the latest off of AMD's website. If you're running a dual-GPU setup, install the latest drivers over your current ones.
     
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    pez319 Notebook Consultant

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    Change the color temp to like 6500K. It gets rid of that redness. You need the new CCC for that.
     
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    Buy a Spyder3 (or something much better, if you want).

    Calibrate your screen using the bundled software or buy CalManPc.

    Live happy.
     
  9. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Thanks to all of you for all the help. I must say, other than professionals who need perfect accuracy, I don't know why AMD made it so hard to just make eyeball adjustments, the way nVidia and even Intel HD allow. It sounds like the latest CCC will let me do that. I am definitely not picky enough to buy a Spyder or CalManPC.

    @pez319 - thanks for that tip; now I just have to download and install the new CCC drivers.

    @eafd: when I go to AMD's Radeon site, will it be easy to identify which CCC to download? I frankly have always been a bit mystified by AMD/ATI's driver update procedures, and have heard of many problems from those far more skilled than I in getting them to run right. Any pointers other than to install them on top of the existing drivers - and yes, I am running a dual gpu setup, if by that you mean ATI + Intel (is anyone not doing this with their E14/5650 gpu?

    Thanks again for all the help.
     
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    AMD's CCC color adjusting makes it kinda hard to get the gamma right. If you're using the AMD panel, this page will help you a lot:

    Gamma calibration - Lagom LCD test

    I prefer to use the old Adobe Gamma app. It's outdated, but still works pretty darn well.

    PS- the people not using a dual GPU setup are the ones with the i7, like me. I don't have to mess around with switching, so I don't know about any possible driver conflicts.

    off topic: batterybar is estimating a ridiculously high battery life right now, [​IMG]
     
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    battery bar is ..

    yeah.
     
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    My experience w/BB is that you have to calibrate (drain, charge full, drain again, charge full again) then give it about a week to fully adjust. When I had an Elitebook, that comes with a pretty good battery measurement utility, I found BB caught up and stayed accurate after doing all of that. the paid version also appears to work better - it's a voluntary contribution of $1 - $10. They say you get a universal license for any contribution, but I got one for $10, lost the license key, repurchased with $2, never got another key. Go figure.

    That said, does anyone know a better, more reliable, less temperamental tool?