How to install XP on Vista dv6000t?

I can purchase a dv6000t from Costco with Vista. Need XP to run my software. It appears that not all required drivers (such as the UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio) are online from HP so this will not allow a clean install of XP. Can the C:\SWSetup folder files be obtained from a Recovery Disk Set for XP or are they not accessible to copy from the Recovery Disk Set? Looks like this will not be possible without the C:\SWSetup folder files for an XP system.

 

UAA driver:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...58-1&swEnvOid=1098&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=3

The answer to your question is yes and no, not directly. The SWSetup folder is packed in a series of .inp files on the recovery discs. There is a way to get at them, but it's too convoluted for me to explain clearly, and frankly it may not work.

The simplest way is to reload XP using the recovery discs and backup the SWSetup folder to cd, along with i386. The get nLite, merge the drivers into your new XP install disc, minus crapware, and you're good to go.

 

First of all, the entire collection of drivers for the dv6000 series needed for an XP reinstall/install are available online here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=1842189&lang=en#

You will need a full copy of XP and a valid product key, make sure you have the drivers ready for after the install however. You won't be able to use nLite because your computer came preloaded with Vista, and the drivers are not in .inf format but rather .exes- in addition they are for Vista and not for XP.
You will need a floppy drive to install the SATA drivers first however. I, myself have gone back to XP from Vista and didn't install the SATA drivers because ofcourse the dv6000 series lacks a floppy drive so it's idiotic for them to only have the SATA driver available that way.

Anyways it works fine with or without it, just make sure you disable SATA in the BIOS before reverting back with the XP installation because if you don't the installer won't see your C: drive.

Using an external floppy drive will not work with installing the SATA driver for XP either.

Good luck.

I wish someone would make this a sticky.

 

I have XP Pro and valid product key. I do not have C:\SWSetup folder for XP. I have been told that Recovery Disks for XP will only recover the same model notebook as the Recovery Disks were made for (some kind of identifier on the mainboard), so they cannot be used to restore a Vista notebook to an XP operating system (which would allow copying the C:\SWSetup folder). From reading the posts on clean XP installations, I didn't think I found all of the drivers on the HP site. I understand the SATA driver issues with XP. I believe I could do this if I can obtain a complete C:\SWSetup folder for an XP machine, but it is not clear how to do the XP install from the drivers on the HP site. The installation guides vary a bit in the order, etc. but everybody had access to the C:\SWSetup folder. I just wouldn't want the XP installation to become a difficult and long process where things like the Quick Play didn't work. That is why I asked if the C:\SWSetup folder files were available from a set of Recovery Disks (which I could order from HP) that wouldn't recover the Vista notebook to XP.

 

Huh?! Just use WinRAR or some other compression utility to extract the executable. And, who's talking about Vista? I assume he has an XP disc and is looking for the XP drivers which is why he's looking for SWSetup. To make it easier to incorporate the drivers, I mentioned nLite. If the link you gave does have all the drivers he needs, the he's set. If not...

 

If you're just looking to extract the SWSetup folder from the Recovery Set itself, the answer is no

My understanding is that the RS will work with any submodel within a model (I.E. an RS for a DV6244US will work on a DV6000T CTO and vice versa, but I could be wrong.

 

Don't get me wrong nLite is an amazing program and I highly recommend it. I'm just saying he would need an XP recovery DVD for his model to take the drivers off of in the first place. All the drivers on the XP Recovery DVD are available on HP's website. Quickplay will not work without the XP Recovery DVD however. The only way to get all the features (Quickplay, and SATA) working are to install the XP Recovery DVD for that notebook. Doing a clean install will get everything working except the two, there is no other way.

He is right the Recovery DVDs will only work with specific models that they are made for. However there is a specific set of Recovery DVDs made for all CTO notebooks, preconfigured models are different however.

My point is if you want both Quickplay and SATA to work then your only option is to find a dv6000t that has XP preinstalled.

 

I was looking at the HP website.

wouldn't quickplay work with the restore program avail at HP as long as he doesnt remove the partition?

Also there is SATA listed as well.

Just curious..

 

He has Vista preloaded. Quickplay Direct is not available, hence no QPD partition.

 

SShorkey please read my above posting,

"You will need a floppy drive to install the SATA drivers first however. I, myself have gone back to XP from Vista and didn't install the SATA drivers because ofcourse the dv6000 series lacks a floppy drive so it's idiotic for them to only have the SATA driver available that way".

and

"Using an external floppy drive will not work with installing the SATA driver for XP either".

Yes, I just quoted myself.

 

Well, I have 2 DV6000t's right now - the defective out-of-the-box one (lid close switch isn't there or doesn't work / laptop will come on by itself while in carrying case) with WinXP-Pro, and the replacement with Vista.
I've spent much of the day trying to figure out how to do a CLEAN INSTALL on the new one because I don't want Vista.

(I own legal retail copy of XP-Pro and have a slipstreamed SP2 disk).
Yes, I could install with SATA disabled in BIOS, but, why should I have to?
I don't have access to a working floppy - if I did, I think I could use Intel/HP's floppy creator to get the SATA drivers for setup and use NLite to create an XP install. I don't care at all about QuickPlay.

I do have the recovery disks from the defective machine, but I really don't want to spend another day removing all the crap software/malware/shovelware that HP includes...

Does anybody here know: If I were to install XP with SATA disabled in the BIOS, could I later install the Intel driver package and re-enable SATA?

Or maybe I need to try and find somebody with a machine with a floppy disk, create the Intel driver diskette, and use NLite to slip it into the XP CD....?

 

I'm not HP don't ask me.



The dv6000 series doesn't have a lid close latch/switch.

You cannot install the SATA driver after installing Windows XP.

If you have a friend with a floppy, then you could make a disk on their machine for the SATA driver, but you would have to then extract the driver from the disk, after which sure you could add it in to nLite. However the SATA disk creator won't work with external disk drivers and certain built in disk drivers, why? I have no idea but it's definitely worth a shot.

Like I said I've installed XP with and without the SATA driver and noticed no difference in speed at all.

 

I don't know about installing SATA drivers after the fact (I have an AMD), but it seems a bit odd that you can't do it.

Anywho, here's a link for slipstreaming the SATA drivers into an XP install , no floppy needed.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=532561&st=0

or here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=59471

You might want to use WinRAR instead of command line switches to extract the file...the choice is yours. Make sure you substitute your versions for those he uses(Duh!).

 

Thanks to Airman for all his helpful information. I wish I had read this thread before installing XP Pro on a new DV6000t which came loaded with Vista Home Premium. Here is what I did to install XP Pro.

First I cloned the original 5400 rpm HD to a new 7200 rpm disk and kept the original HD as a backup. The DV6000t was then started and it went through the Vista initialization. Then CPUZ was downloaded to identify the moterboard which turned out to be a Quanta with an Intel 945PM chipset.

A search of the Intel web site listed several versions of 945PM chipset, but only one was for the Quanta motherboard. I downloaded all the drivers from the Intel site and burned a CD with all the drivers. I also prepared another CD with drivers from the HP site. Finally a floppy disk was prepared with the SATA drivers.

I booted the DV600t using an attached USB floppy drive with a Windows 98SE start up floppy and deleted the active partition on the DV6000t HD. With this completed the DV6000t was booted from an OEM version of XP Pro, with the USB floppy drive attached but no disk in the drive.

XP Pro booted and I hit F6 to have it read the SATA drivers. The installation ran to completition and the Intel driver CD was then used to add the drivers that were missing. Finally QuickPlay and a couple of HP specific functions were added from the HP driver CD.

I don't know how many of the DV600t laptops use the Quanta mainboard, but I received the laptop at the beginning of February so HP may have just begun using this mainboard.

Again thanks to Airman for all his help. I'm just publishing my experience as a supplement for others who are interested in removing Vist and installing XP.

 

Thanks!
I did find the necessary text-mode SATA drivers for WinXP slipstreaming in HP's \swsetup\hdd
folder on the XP-Pro machine, and am currently attempting to make a slipstreamed XP Pro install CD (with SP2 and latest hotfixes, and even more customizations) with NLite.

(The location of the text-mode drivers wasn't obvious to me from the prior replies and linked posts; these files make having diskette unnecessary.)

Oh, and the DV6000 has to have a lid close switch (even though it's hidden) - otherwise closing the lid doesn't do anything (the backlight stays on and Windows does not do what power management options are selected when the lid is closed. The replacement PC does do these things when the lid is closed - the original XP machine does not.)

 

This is where I am confused. I'm attempting to do something similar, albeit for the AMD variant. nLite gives the option of either "Text" mode or "PNP" when selecting the drivers for slipstreaming. I originally chose "PNP" mode for the chipset drivers and every other one. Should I have left the mode in "Text" as was default? What is the difference?

I guess my current iso file is useless, and has to be redone again. If it were not for this SATA thing, I would not even be trying to make my own XP disc. Never understood why they went to SATA in notebooks........

 

Version 1.2.1, which I think is the latest.

Do you mean that XP natively recognizes an nForce SATA controller? I've always stayed away from SATA drives, even in desktops. Always used IDE/PATA.

 

Oops! Caught me in a rewrite, R.

Update to nLite version 1.3 RC2 and that decision will be made for you (text mode/PNP).

Yes, AFAIK, only the Intel chipset has the problem.

 

Thanks for the info! That definitely helps.

As for the controller, it is an nForce SATA/IDE (c51m) according to the HP driver package.

 

I've got almost everything going except for a very important component - the wired ethernet adapter of all things!

Back to the SATA driver & NLite: I used the latest RC and it does make the text mode selection automatically, and best I can tell you need this text mode driver otherwise the hard drive isn't recognized at all by XP setup. Both Intel & HP have downloads for the text mode driver, but it's in an exe that will ONLY extract to a floppy diskette. I searched and searched and finally found that it's included in the \swsetup\hdd folder of the dv6000(t) that was preinstalled with XP. I don't know if this would be the same files/driver for an AMD system - probably not as this is an Intel driver; but, if anybody needs this (about 1mb) PM me & maybe I can zip it up and email to you.

And if someone can help with my network adapter problem: apparently HP has gone with a newer Intel ethernet built-in adapter that they don't have a driver for. In fact, the HP support site doesn't have a download for Vista for the Intel wired ethernet adapter! Probably at the Intel site, but I've got to take a break now - Intel's site is hard to find because they don't identify their products in a way that matches the actual info the PC will give me about it:
The ethernet adapter in the NEW Vista DV6000t has this PCI ID:
VEN_8086&DEV_109A&SUBSYS_30BB103C

The ethernet adapter in the OLD XP DV600t has:
VEN_8086&DEV_1092&SUBSYS_30A0103C

I tried modifying the .inf on the XP driver so that Windows would use the old Intel Pro/100 VE that's on the XP machine, but it installs and won't start - network adapter doesn't work.
Anyone know where to find the right driver?

I have 1 more unknown device I'll have to address later -- it shows as Unknown/other device on Intel 82801 GBM (ICH7-M) Interface controller - 27B9

 

One of the links I posted shows how to do this sans floppy, but if you're strapped for time and have the floppy image only, use this app:

http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html#download

Should be self-explanatory. Creates a virtual floppy. Read the install instructions, install, run sp32478, extract to whatever temp directory, run f6flpy32. Files will be written to the A: drive. Copy from there to whatever directory you have set aside for the nLite drivers.

 

You can find the Intel LAN driver/s here also:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=1842189&lang=en#

 

Thanks to all who helped me - I got everything going.
(Turns out LAN adapter in the new machine is 10/100/1Gig where the old 1 had 10/100: new has GeForce old one had Intel integrated graphics). The unknown device was the quickplay/touch buttons above the keyboard solved by loading HP QLB update SP33258.

Now, I have 1 more question: Is it possible to install Vista back on the machine so as to run in a dual-boot environment AND use the HP-provided Product Code for Vista activation. (When I clean installed XP I created a 2nd 20gb partition. I have a copy of the RETAIL Vista DVD; my understanding is OEM versions of Vista, which are restricted to running on a particular [vendor/BIOS] machine have 2 extra files and never require product activation while Retail/Upgrade versions do require activation. Since HP doesn't provide any Vista-only installation media (only system recovery which puts the machine back to new out-of-box), I'm wondering if/how this can be done?

BTW: My new XP-Pro version of the HP DV6000t now has NO bloatware, has never seen or heard of Norton/Symantec, and after tweaking, at startup there are only 24 processes running!

 

Yes it is possible to do it. There are two different ways.

If XP is installed first http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista

If Vista is installed first
http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp#corrupt

I did it tonight and everything is working GREAT. Thanks to everyone on this board to point to where all the drivers are for XP.