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    Hybrid RAID Array fix for HP Envy 17 / 3D / Pavillion Notebooks

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Bobmitch, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Bobmitch

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    If you purchase an SSD / HDD combo drive from HP in your new notebook and it arrived in RAID 0 mode...here is how to fix it.

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DHHGWUL4


    You can download the file and do the repair. Takes a few hours, but better than sending your machine in for a refund...

    bump again
    bump again 12/24/2011

    Wish the mods would sticky this...seems that the 3rd gen Envy is going to have this issue as well...
     
    Bobmitch, Apr 15, 2011
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  2. Bobmitch

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    Bump

    Looks like many of you might see machines this week. Wanted this to be where you could find it, if needed...
     
    Bobmitch, Apr 18, 2011
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    Another bump just in case it is needed.

    Thanks again Bob.
     
    hyperboled, Apr 24, 2011
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  4. Bobmitch

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    Bump again!

    Perhaps the moderators should make this a sticky! Looks like this issue isn't going away...
     
    Bobmitch, Apr 29, 2011
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  5. Bobmitch

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    bump...moving to the front for anyone who can't find this post
     
    Bobmitch, May 23, 2011
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    I can't download this file from work, so maybe the details are in there, but I'll ask here anyways...

    Does this apply to dual mechanial drives? My laptop comes with dual 500GB drives. I was hoping to replace one of the drives with a SSD. Have the OS and Programs installed on the SSD... and My Documents/Music on the 500GB drive.

    Advice?
     
    bamaster, Aug 16, 2011
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    It should. The document covers breaking down a raid array and reinstalling onto independent drives. When HP was first shipping the SSD+HDD combo's, they were striping between the two devices which was a big no-no. Those of us who were caught in this situation had to fix the problem ourselves. HP no longer ships this invalid configuration and those people who had striped HDD's really don't want to undo the array as speed suffers. However, since you are replacing a HDD with a SDD, then you will want to perform this process.
     
    cam121, Aug 16, 2011
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    Thanks cam. Yeah, right now my C drive shows 1TB. So I first need to undo the array, as described in the how-to, then I can figure out how to install the SSD.
     
    bamaster, Aug 16, 2011
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    After your SSD is installed in the laptop, it really should be a breeze if you follow the guide. I personally used my recovery media to reinstall the laptop from scratch when I first got mine and broke the stripe down. The only gotcha is the need to fix the MBR and BootSector which the document explains how to do.

    The only other thing you *might* run into is if you are installing a smaller SSD. Some people who installed 64-80GB SSDs (or less) found that the base recovery won't fit properly due to the way the HP recovery works. Those people had to perform a minimal recovery from the HP restore and then reinstall some software (like tridef). I used my original 160GB SSD and didn't have any problems restoring the full HP image (other than the bootsector issue). If you are installing a smaller drive, I'd also recommend backing up your SWSETUP folder to USB flash before breaking the stripe. If you do a full image restore, you won't need the SWSETUP folder, but its still best to be prepared for the worst.

    Good luck.
     
    cam121, Aug 17, 2011
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  10. Bobmitch

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    bump...mods...consider stickying this...new gen Envy is going to have issues, too...
     
    Bobmitch, Dec 24, 2011
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    Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I am in need of this file by BobMitch too and MegaUpload has obviously met its demise. Could anyone help? Please PM me or email the file to vtchuck2000ATyahoo.com

    Thanks.
     
    Hawflake, Jul 29, 2012
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  12. Bobmitch

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    Check your PM...
     
    Bobmitch, Jul 30, 2012
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    Can I have it too? also struggling with this issue.
     
    kclkec, Aug 11, 2012
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  14. Bobmitch

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    Not sure how to get it to you! The server I used for the file was shut down...
     
    Bobmitch, Aug 12, 2012
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    Well I just decided to removed my SSD/HDD RAID setup HP sent me.(Realized I wasn't even getting use of 750GB in that config. Real quick, can someone tell me what the problem was/is that Bobmitch was fixing? I have a 750+300SSD setup. I'm replacing the 750 with a 1TB and would like my OS on the SSD. I know how to do that, but I'm trying to figure out if there is anything unusual about this Envy 17 3d (2xxx) that I should know... if so would you be able to send me aforementioned program?

    Thanks!
     
    Viperhawke, Aug 16, 2012
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    Just wondering, do you still have a way of sending the pdf file? If so, I would like a copy.
     
    stanwich, Aug 19, 2012
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    me too need this guide so much. please anybody PM me or email at zyberace(AT)gmail.com
    Thanks very much
     
    zyberace, Sep 4, 2012
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  18. Bobmitch

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    PM me with an email where I can send
     
    Bobmitch, Sep 6, 2012
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    Hi Bobmitch, I have been following the hp envy 17 thread for several weeks. Just bought an ssd for my envy 2280. Could you please send me the guide you have made up. I plan a clean install. Thanks. [email protected]
     
    kjarvis, Oct 21, 2012
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    Hi Bobmitch
    Could you possibly send me the guide also... Am struggling with this very issue and this would be extremely helpful!
    Regards
    eas4uk
     
    eas4uk, Jan 3, 2013
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  21. Bobmitch

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    If you can PM me an email, I can certainly send to you...

    Happy New Year...

    Bob
     
    Bobmitch, Jan 3, 2013
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    Sent to you via email...
     
    Bobmitch, Jan 3, 2013
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    Hello Bobmitch,

    I've been having similar problem with my Envy 6 1011sa. Could you kindly send me the fix guide. Many thanks. My email [email protected]
     
    agexxi, Jan 9, 2013
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    So what is the problem that this guide fixing? What is the "big no-no"?

    A post on the first page mentioned something about RAID 0 striping. I have an Envy 4 with a 500GB HDD and a 32GB SSD that shows up as a Raid 0 configuration. Is this a bad configuration? What is the correct set up for the drives?

    Why not just post the guide on the forum?
     
    bubbaganoush, Jan 10, 2013
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  25. Bobmitch

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    1. When you stipe a 500 GB HDD with a 32 GB SSD...you get 64GB of space. RAID 0 defaults to the size of the smallest drive and also the speed of the slowest drive.
    2. I wanted to post the file here over a year ago. Asked the moderators for a way to do that. Never got any interest or responses. At the time, I was forced to use an online space for people to download. Now, that's gone. So I have just been sending to people privately.
     
    Bobmitch, Jan 11, 2013
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    SerratedAuto, Mar 6, 2013
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  27. Bobmitch

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    In your email. Sorry I didn't see your request until today.
     
    Bobmitch, Mar 7, 2013
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    I'm having the same problem!

    Could you send me the guide too please?

    [email protected]

    Thanks man!!
     
    Trrex, Apr 6, 2013
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  29. Bobmitch

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    Check your email...should be there now...Good luck
     
    Bobmitch, Apr 7, 2013
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    In your email
     
    Bobmitch, May 1, 2013
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    Here you go skiz and kingdixon...check your email
     
    Bobmitch, May 25, 2013
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    Viper

    In your email...good luck...
     
    Bobmitch, May 30, 2013
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    Hi, Bobmitch. I'm looking forward to the delivery of my new Envy so I can (finally!) retire my Dell D620--could I get a copy of your guide as well? [email protected]
    Thx for making this info available.
     
    bandarlog54, Jun 6, 2013
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  39. supergreen

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    Two questions:

    First, can I get a copy of the guide at supergreen26 at yahoo dot com?

    Second, I have a new HP Envy 17t-j000 with the combo 32gb SSD+1tb HD. What are the advantages/disadvantage of running it in RAID0 vs. Non-RAID config? I originally tried to do a dual-boot Win7 and Win8 but could not with the original RAID0 config. Broke the RAID successfully and was able to set up the dual boot, but now can't make use of the SSD (32gb isn't big enough to do anything these days...). Looking to reset it all back to factory default and play with the RAID0 config to see if I can make it work since I have figured a few things out now...
     
    supergreen, Jul 25, 2013
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    Two questions:

    First, can I get a copy of the guide at supergreen26 at yahoo dot com?

    Second, I have a new HP Envy 17t-j000 with the combo 32gb SSD+1tb HD. What are the advantages/disadvantage of running it in RAID0 vs. Non-RAID config? I originally tried to do a dual-boot Win7 and Win8 but could not with the original RAID0 config. Broke the RAID successfully and was able to set up the dual boot, but now can't make use of the SSD (32gb isn't big enough to do anything these days...). Looking to reset it all back to factory default and play with the RAID0 config to see if I can make it work since I have figured a few things out now...
     
    supergreen, Jul 25, 2013
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  41. Bobmitch

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    The file should be in your email now. As far as benefit to RAID...you double the throughput. Tom's hardware even showed the benefits of RAID using two SSD's. It is a benefit. Many will say "Oh, but you run the risk of losing all your data"...true, but if your HDD goes belly up...you lose it anyway. Best thing to do is backup your system weekly and never lose anything...you can always restore. If you RAID an SSD and HDD together...your speed is only double that of the HDD. RAID will default to the speed of the slowest drive...not recommended. In my Envy 17-2100 and even in my desktop...I do dual drive configurations...where C is my Samsung 830 SSD and contains OS and main programs like Nero, Office and the like. D drive is for Steam, Uplay and Origin games and secondary programs. RAID is a choice. To me...the Samsung SSD's are fast enough and the dual drive combination works really well together. Your choice
     
    Bobmitch, Jul 29, 2013
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    Hello Bobmitch,

    can you send me the pdf file, I yust got a hp dv 7 and struggeling with a ssd install. mail it to [email protected].
    Thanks
     
    oostwal, Aug 28, 2013
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  43. Jackwong64@gmail.com

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    Hi Bobmitch,

    I think my friend's laptop ran into the same problem...

    The ENVY 17 and it came with RAID 0 with 2 regular 500GB HDD, 1 of it went bad and I bought a SSD to replace that.

    Since the SSD is only 128GB, and I prefer to disable the RAIO 0, can I do that with your guide?

    Or this laptop must be running with RAID setup?


    If your trick work in my case, can you also send me that file to my email address? Thanks.
    [email protected]
     
    [email protected], Oct 3, 2013
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    Jack and Max...should be in your emails now. Sorry I didn't check here earlier....Hopefully the guide can still be of help...
     
    Bobmitch, Nov 10, 2013
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    Hey BobMitch, I could use the guide as well. Thanks so much!





     
    theshifter, Nov 21, 2013
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  47. Jackwong64@gmail.com

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    Thank you so much for your help!

    But I already returned the laptop to the co-worker, too bad for her.
     
    [email protected], Nov 23, 2013
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    Hey and hi to all...Happy holidays to all as well....I have a question for Bob Mitch or anyone else that can guide me...I have 1st Gen Envy 17 3d with 2 500gb hd's...I am going to drop in a samsung ssd 840 evo 250gb in the "C" drive bay...i have the recovery discs from HP...do i just install the ssd and run the discs?..(will that work)....do i need to remove other hd before i run the discs?..SSD will be here tomorrow...thanks in advance for your reply and help..Chuck..
     
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    All you need do is put the REVO in the C bay and run the recovery. The software will take care of the rest. I just did a fresh recovery on my 2nd Gen and it is flawless. Your REVO will be drive C: and the HDD will be D: or E: You can always change the drive letters of the second drive and the DVD/BR drive. Pretty much taken care of for you...
     
    Bobmitch, Dec 12, 2013
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