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    Intel VT on HP DV5t

    Discussion in 'HP' started by chucky_1234, Nov 14, 2008.

  1. chucky_1234

    chucky_1234 Notebook Consultant

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    hi i was wondering if there is a way to enable hardware vitulisation. ive looked through the bios but i cant find anything relating to virtulisation. Does the HP DV5 support virtulisation?

    Btw my laptop model is dv5 1010ea if that helps :)

    my laptop came with Intel C2D p7350
     
  2. cpu2k

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    There should be an option in the BIOS setup to enable virtualization...
     
  3. chucky_1234

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    i checked again to make sure but i cant find any option to enable it or disable it. it there a bios update for the DV5t that will allow me to enable it, or is there another method to enable VT?
     
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    What kind of CPU do you have? Its all in the cpu not the notebook it self. If your cpu dosent have VT the option does not appear under the bios.
     
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    the T5800 doesn't support VT
    P7350 and above have VT
     
  6. chucky_1234

    chucky_1234 Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry i forgot to write that down on the 1st post. i have the Intel C2D p7350.
    it says on intel's website that intel VT is supported by that processor.
     
  7. Rahul

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    chucky, run this small program called Securable to see if Intel VT is enabled on your system. Even if the processor supports VT, some manufacturers sadly lock off the feature and you'll have to do some hacking to re-enable it.
    It'll tell you if its locked off like it did on my Vaio.

    http://www.grc.com/securable.htm
     
  8. chucky_1234

    chucky_1234 Notebook Consultant

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    thanks rahul

    i tried the program you suggested and sadly it says that there is no VT support. im guessing hp hav locked VT support to off, and unless someone could guide me through hacking then im guessing ill just hav to live with it :( . is there not a way of enabling VT inside windows?
     
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    I would check with my dv7 but my t5800 dosent even have VT. I know when i upgraded from a t5250 to a t7100 on my dv6500t the option appeared in the bios.
     
  10. chucky_1234

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    where exactly would virtulisation be located in the bios? There is a configuration tab but theres only options for Button sound, C6 state, language and fan setting. theres another called boot options which i also looked through but it wasnt located there either, though i didnt think VT would be in boot options menu anyway.

    do all HP Dv5t's have VT disabled permenantly or is it just models with P7350 because the P7350 is the lowest (except t5800) of the processor lineup in the DV5t
     
  11. cpu2k

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    I checked the BIOS setting on my DV7 and there's an setting to enable/disable virtualization under System Configuration... I have a P8400...
     
  12. 0.0

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    Perhaps your notebook does not support VT.
     
  13. chucky_1234

    chucky_1234 Notebook Consultant

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    i might just contact HP and see what they say. i dont think it would make sense for the DV7 which is essentially just a 17inch version of the Dv5 to support VT if the DV5 doesnt, but then again it is maybe my processor... there isnt alot of options in the uk :(
     
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    i already know that VT isnt supported but that is because it is disabled in the bios, as the processor does support VT when it is enabled. what i wanted to know if there is a way to enable it since there aint an option in the bios
     
  16. chucky_1234

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    i checked my bios and its F.07 which is the one you mention. so im guessing hp have decided to lock the option for the p7350. would there be any point in updating to the newest bios?
     
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    If there is a newer BIOS available from HP... there is no harm in updating it... you might get the VT option if you do...
     
  18. chucky_1234

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    okay ill update it... hope nothing goes wrong though, really dont like updating bios :(
     
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    ok ive updated the bios and unfortunately virtulisation still doesnt show up in the config tab of the bios screen. any ideas?
     
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    The P7350 is a lower end budget chip. It never came with the IVT instruction.

    Intel screwed up with the documentation on their website. They didnt even release the specs of the chip till recently.
     
  21. chucky_1234

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    lol thanks i guess youve cleared it up for me. it seems very strange that the T7250 had VT and was a buget chip, yet intel have decided not to add it to P7350. i wouldnt have went with the P7350 if HP didnt screw the UK over by not providing great options, but nevermind its powerful enough imo.

    anyway thanks alot flipfire very helpful :)
     
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    I should have explained a little more clearly, my bad. The program will show if VT is supported by the CPU regardless of whether BIOS has disabled it or not. In other words if it says Not Supported then no amount of BIOS updates will change that, you will need to use a different CPU. Hope this helps clear up any misunderstanding.

    flipfire: do you have a link to the P7350 documentation that says it doesn't support VT? I think it would help a lot of other people who like chucky have expected to have VT. Thanks.
     
  23. flipfire

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    The P7350 is a budget processor only because it is not officially acknowledged by Intel. It is Intel's way of competing with AMD on the low-end, by offering processors for dirt cheap prices. That way the OEMs like HP have some incentive to push budget Intel machines.

    This is why Intels propriety IDA and IVT instructions are missing.

    I do not have documentation for it but i can tell you that it was branded as Intels mystery processsor
     
  24. chucky_1234

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    i was really annoyed when i bought this laptop because i really wanted a higher processor, but every model except 1 in the UK has p7350. the other model has the p8400 but it only comes with nvidia 9200m gs. im also stuck with 1280x800 res cos they dont offer anything higher. it kinda shows how good HP like to screw other countries apart from the USA. should have replaced my dell with another dell
     
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    Ok, I see what your saying, maybe that's why the thermal spec is only 90C. Looking at the OEM prices the P7350 is the same price as the P8400. :confused:

    Anyway IIRC tomorrow is the official launch of Nehalem, it think it will be interesting to see how it performs in public. So many CPUs it's hard to keep up with it all.
     
  27. chucky_1234

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    when are nehalem processors for notebooks ment to be released? if it was gonna be after christmas then i should have just waited, but if its end of next year then i dunno :p
     
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    The U7500 processor in my Vaio has support for Intel VT, but Sony locks the feature off on almost all of their notebooks, save for the BZ series. The program "Securable" states that the feature is locked off on my computer. My dad's computer has an older Pentium 4 processor and the program states it has no support for VT.

    However in the Sony section of this forum, people have been able to re-enable the feature in the TZ and SZ series at least through hacking of the BIOS. :)

    Its going to be a while, its just come out for desktops. I would say Summer 2009 at the earliest and all signs point to at least mid-way of next year. The current Montevina platform for notebooks will be refreshed in the spring.