Is HP planning on a Pentium® M processor with 17 in...Or do they already have one?

Does anyone know if HP is planning on a 17in with a Pentium® M processor?

I am interested in the zd8000 series notebook with:

Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 650 w/HT Technology, 3.4GHz
Display 17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Wide Viewing (1680x1050)
Memory 1.0GB DDR2 SDRAM, 533MHz (2x512MB)
Hard Drive 100 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW&CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
Graphics Card 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) X600
54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
Primary Battery 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
HP Mobile Remote Control

I was also looking at the dv4000 series with:

Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) M Processor 770 (2.13 GHz)
Display 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)
Graphics Card Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 900
Memory 1.0GB DDR SDRAM (2x512MB)
Hard Drive 80 GB 5400 RPM Hard Drive
Drive LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW&CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
54g(TM) Integ. Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN & Bluetooth
Primary Battery 12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Accessories HP Mobile Remote Control


But I am really interested in a 17in screen...As this will be replacing my desktop that had a 19in CRT. From what I have been researching I believe I should go with the Pentium® M processor.

So any ideas if HP is planning on a 17in Pentium® M processor?

Thanks!

 

If this is going to be a pure desktop replacement and the unit will not be moved (or rarely be moved) from your desk, a P4 based notebook is fine for your needs. The Pentium M's generally run faster than a similarly clocked P4 (PM 2.0GHz is faster than a P4 2.0Ghz, roughly equal to a P4 3.4+ Ghz CPU). They run cooler and consume less battery power than a P4, but these are really points for a notebook that will be mobile. If it's not, you can save a bit of money and get a P4 or AMD based notebook. Slap on an external 17" or 19" LCD you're done.

Also, you may want to look at different brands as some do currently have 17" Pentium M models.

-Vb-

 

This is pure speculation, but some forum members at CNET Forums have been saying that the zd9000 (sucessor to zd8000) will have Intel's dual core Pentium M chip.

 

Just to add, I would get the Pentium 4 ZD8000 and not the Pentium M notebook. Dell offers some good solution for notebooks with Pentium M processor and PCI Express x16 graphics cards. The Pentium M is made for portable use, it is also pretty good when it comes to games. A 1.6GHz Pentium M can even play WMV HD 1080p movies which Microsoft says requires a 3GHz Pentium 4. The downside of getting a Pentium M processor is that it lacks the support 64-bit extentions, it is only a 32-bit processor. When Microsoft releases the next version of Windows, next year, it will take full advantage of the 64-bit platform. A 32-bit Pentium M processor will last you a good 2-3 years but the ZD8000 will last alot longer time as all Pentium 4 600 level processors have EM64T, they are 64-bit processors.

Keep in mind that Intel will be releasing a dual-core Pentium M processor later this year. However, this processor will still be 32-bit. Intel has stated that they will move to 64-bits in their mobile platform when the consumers are asking for it. If the rumored ZD9000 ships this year it will have a 32-bit dual-core Pentium M.

Just some things to think about.

 

Me has to ask you, do you need 64bit? There are no drivers or games for next couple of years (well, except some additing stuff). What's the point? In 2 years you'll want a better/faster Notebook anyway, then 64 bit might be going strong, and hardware would be MUCH cheaper than now. I would save money now and then by going pure 32 bit now and pure 64 bit then.

 

You are right .By the time 64-bit software and applications are more widely
available,it will be good 2-3 years.By then you will have faster ,more advanced 64-bit processors and better technology laptops available.

 

And the resale value of your old 32-bit laptop will be very poor. I suspect that just about everyone upgrading to Longhorn will go straight to the 64-bit version, which will send a glut of 32-bit machines onto the used market. I'm surprised Microsoft is even bothering with a 32-bit version, I don't see where the QA resources required are worth it. By the time they actually ship the thing pretty much all new machines will be 64-bit.

Things are moving much faster under Linux. I've been running 64-bit Linux for well over a year now. Since we have source code for nearly all drivers we haven't had to wait for foot-dragging OEMs to bless us with driver recompiles. Nowadays installing 64-bit Linux over 32-bit is a no-brainer. I'm astonished at the laziness of most peripheral/component manufacturers, nVidia being a major exception.

I'm hoping that HP is just waiting for nVidia's next mobile chipset (and maybe a mobile 7-series GPU?) before releasing a zd8000z or some such thing. The Athlon 64 X2 would be perfect for a gaming laptop (or a FX57) and throw off less heat than the P4's they've been using. Clevo has a sweet X2-capable 17" laptop coming out (Sager, etc. sell rebadged Clevo notebooks) so it's very doable.

 

What kind of a resale value are people expecting on a 3 year old laptop? Even now, when everything is 32-bit, how much are you going to get on a laptop from 2002? A couple hundred, tops? Come on now, this "resale value" crap is just something people say to justify loading a laptop with cutting edge technology that has no real use.

 

I disagree about Microsoft making the 32 bit version. It has to be one of their better decisions in the past few years. They realize that there is a very large legacy market out there that needs to be catered to. Business will want one standard and by having a 32 bit version to go along with the 64 bit one on their new computer, Microsoft will be able to sell more copies.

The idea of only focusing on the new market is passing in the industry. This is evident also by Microsoft making the new stripped down versions of XP codenamed Eiger and Mönch.