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    Is Overclocking still possible on the new DV6s with Dynamic Graphics Switiching?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Retiredat21, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. Retiredat21

    Retiredat21 Notebook Enthusiast

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    if it's possible, can anyone post a tutorial.. thanks :)
     
  2. canofspam4000

    canofspam4000 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm not too interested in overclocking my graphics card, but after digging around the threads it has become apparent that some of the 6770ms are having unerperforming issues, and it seems that I may unfortunately be one of the victims. I've been trying to run The Witcher 2 at the same specs as the others have on this forum, and it just isn't working out well (and no, I'm not a noob who forgot to set witcher2.exe to "high performance" in CCC).
    Anyways, I'm also having trouble overclocking on the new dv6t 6100. I don't know if HP or ATI changed anything about the graphics card, but I can't overclock my 6770m at all. Sapphire Trixx and ATITool both default the core clock and the memory clock to 0 and doesn't let me change their values.
    I don't know if this is related, but someone in this thread mentioned their clocks being defaulted to 100 and 81 mhz in GPU-Z; I checked my own values, and sure enough I had that same problem.

    Does anyone else have this same problem? It would be great if I can figure out whether its is a rare occurence or otherwise related to the new dynamic switching mechanism they started to implement.

    EDIT: I think this'll make things easier to understand, so - can you guys fill in the following info and post your results? Your inputs will really help us understand the scope and severity of the problem at hand:

    Model:
    [ex: dv6t 6100]

    Same Problem?:
    [ex: yes]

    Descriptions, if any:
    [ex: cannot overclock, GPU-Z not showing correct clocks]

    CCC update procedure used:
    [ex: stock->11.5a->11.5b]
     
  3. IceBlu

    IceBlu Notebook Enthusiast

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    That someone was me :) , and it's the weirdest thing, except i have the "HP Pavilion dv7t-6000", like i said in my post, until i hit apply for the stock clocks in Sapphire TRIXX, GPU-Z didn't correctly show them, except the core clock.

    Now in your case, you can't even get Sapphire TRIXX to even change your clocks at all if im understand you correctly? Let me know because i love puzzles and i'd be glad to try to help you guys. Cheers, Blu
     
  4. ewq3500

    ewq3500 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i think this is a common issue with the dv6t 6100. :(

    Model:
    dv6t 6100

    Same Problem?:
    yes

    Descriptions, if any:
    cannot overclock, GPU-Z not showing correct clocks, Sapphire TRIXX shows 0 for the clock and memory. after updating to 11.5 ,it seems that i cant benchmark using 3d mark vantage and 3d mark 2011 .

    CCC update procedure used:
    stock->11.5a->11.5b
     
  5. canofspam4000

    canofspam4000 Notebook Consultant

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    @IceBlu - thanks for the response! Yes, you are right - neither ATITool nor Sapphire Trixx allowed me to overclock, let alone show the right clock values (0? come on, that can't be true :)).

    @ewq3500 - seeing that you pretty much have the exact problem as I do, it seems that you are right; this may be a problem with the new 6100 models. I'm really hoping that if that is the case, HP will try to take action ASAP as they're going to disappoint a lot of the new dv6t/dv7t owners. Thank you for your valuable input, and let's hope that other 6100 owners will post their results ;)

    As for me, I'll try to revert to the stock/11.5a drivers tonight and see if this problem can be remedied.
     
  6. canofspam4000

    canofspam4000 Notebook Consultant

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    Ok, so I've reinstalled Windows 7 and tried out both the stock and 11.5a drivers. To be concise, they both didn't work. Neither would help ATITool nor Sapphire Trixx to enable the overclocking feature. On the bright side, though, I noticed that the FPS in 3D view jumped from ~200 to ~400 FPS between the stock and 11.5a :). Still, it looks like we have no choice but to wait for HP to roll out a fix, whenever that may come. *sigh*
     
  7. lokiswarrior

    lokiswarrior Notebook Guru

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    From HP's point of view though, whats there to fix? They dont want you to oc there cards in the 1st place so.....
     
  8. dwalk1989

    dwalk1989 Notebook Evangelist

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    what happens when you use an AMD driver? can you overclock then at the expense of switchable graphics?
     
  9. canofspam4000

    canofspam4000 Notebook Consultant

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    You've got a point there. However, overclocking isn't the only issue I have with my dv6t.
    First and foremost, they need to bring back the manual switching capability. The dynamic switching is just too clunky for practical use ATM, and even then I would much rather be able to switch by myself. It's insanely frustrating to have to change all of my program presets from "High Performance" to "Power Saving" whenever I decide to use my dv6t without an AC adapter, and I'm confident that I'm not alone on this.
    Second, I'm not sure what HP did in the new revision but the graphics performance seems to have been substantially reduced from the previous 6000 series.

    Here are some tests that I did with 3DMark11 and 3DMark Vantage. I'm not sure on the former, but Vantage definitely seems to be underperforming compared to that of other users in this forum (these tests were done in 11.5b):
    3DMark11: P1582
    3DMark Vantage: P6555
     
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    canofspam4000 Notebook Consultant

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    I tried overclocking with all three Catalyst treatments (stock, 11.5a, 11.5b), the latter of which was downloaded from AMD's website, and they all wouldn't let me change the clock speed. Hope that answers your question!
     
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    dark rider Notebook Consultant

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    I did some manipulation of both the config and data files for MSI afterburner, and could get it to save the presets, and it appeared to apply the oc, but it never registered correctly in GPU-Z, so I don't know for sure. Either way, my games play perfectly, so I'm not overly concerned at this point. Hopefully, it gets refined in the future though!
     
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    so, can you overclock the gpu with the afterburner ? :confused:
     
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    Thanks for the info! I just tested out MSI Afterburner following your suggestion, and it seems to register the ability to overclock.
    However, I'm still encountering problems. I edited the .cfg file in order to unlock the overclocking feature, but somehow I can't apply the settings. Whenever I set my clocks to a certain number and hit "Apply" they both reset to 0. Additionally, when I save profiles and try to load them again the clocks default to 360/400.

    Did I do something wrong or forget to do something else? If so, would you be kind enough to explain the procedure step by step, dark rider? It would serve to be of good reference for us 6100 owners :)
     
  14. dark rider

    dark rider Notebook Consultant

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    Same thing happened to me, so I manipulated the data file which saves the presets, and I got it to load and report the correct amount when you hit the preset number, but it still reverts back to 0 after you hit apply, so I don't think it is applying the overclock.
     
  15. BrokenSocial

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    Any chance that the dv6 will be able to be overclocked in the future? I haven't run into any auto switching problems yet, but I bought this comp for the manual switching (optimus=kinda wonky). If I have no option to OC in the future I'm thinking of just spending $200 more and just getting a sager 8130 despite the crappy battery life. I love this DV6 though :(
     
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    it displays 81/100 because the video card throttles back when not being used. Start up a game and they'll shoot right up.
     
  17. BrokenSocial

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    I didn't have a problem with auto switching but at this point there is no OC option with the current drivers? I don't fully understand the tech issues, but from what I've read, it looks bad for anyone who may want to OC in the future?
     
  18. dark rider

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    OC'ing is only going to eek out a few extra FPS in real world use. It can help extend the usable life of the lappy with new games or help you run higher settings, but have you actually encountered an instance where you would need it with the current crop of games?

    The Sager 8130 is a very nice lappy, but I doubt after configuring it to be the same specs as your DV6, that it will only be $200 more. Most custom sites don't include the OS, BD player, etc. in their base config. I also don't think the Clevo's look anywhere near as sexy, but they are built well. If you don't need the extra performance of the GTX460 or 560, I think the DV6 is still a better deal w/30% off coupon.