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    Is dv2000t "Vista Premium Ready"?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by HKINGS, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey everyone,

    I'm in the hunt for a new C2D machine and the DV2000t is on that short list. I also want to be able to run Vista Premium without any major performance issues soon after it is released. My main question is, can the DV2000t with C2D and 7200 card do this? I know it's "Vista Capable" but there is no mention of "Premium Ready".

    I ask this because it seems that Microsoft is now indeed allowing manufactuers to label systems "Vista Premium Ready" You can see the new MS "Premium Ready" logo on the follwing link for the Sony SZ website for the new SZ360 (See above the configure button):

    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...tegoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers_SZSeries

    For this reason the SZ is at the top of my short list too, although I know its a bit more $. Ive also been following the thread linked below in the Sony forums about why the SZ is "Premium Ready" and it seems it is because the 7400 GPU is a dedicated 128MB vs. Shared.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=76585&page=2

    As far as I can tell, the DV2000t 7200 GPU is a 128MB shared solution so its not completely dedicated, only 64MB dedicated... am I wrong? HP is still only advertising them as Vista Capable as far as I can tell also.

    Any feedback or insight into this is truly appreciated. The HP is half the price, but I'd rather pay the extra money in order to have a PC that is going to run the operating system in it's full glory and as smoothly as possible.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Thief

    Thief Notebook Geek

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    Thats what bothered me too. However, on the MS site the requirements for a Vista premium PC which will provide an xceptional performance under Vista are far below most of the laptops marked with Vista capable only. Its a bit confusing. I guess even a laptop with a decent processor and an integrated video could be regarded as vista premium. Ati x1100 will fully support aero glass and all the expected vista bulshit. Everything is a marketing game to manipulate users...
    I would consider 2000t a vista permium comp.
     
  3. zishu

    zishu Notebook Guru

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    There's is no difference in Vista Premium Ready and Vista Capable notebooks. Vista Ready means it will be able to handle AERO and can run Vista well enough with all its features enabled. I have GeForce Go 7400 on my notebook and Radeon x1600 on my desktop. I ran vista x64 beta 2 on my desktop and x86 july ctp on my notebook and they both performed equally well.

    However as there will be more applications in the market after vista release that will require separate GPU for performance so I suggest going for atleast 7400 or better.
     
  4. DV6000T

    DV6000T Notebook Guru

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    I use the following as a guide:

    64 MB of graphics memory to support 1,310,720 pixels or less.
    128 MB of graphics memory to support 2,304,000 pixels or less.
    256 MB of graphics memory to support higher than 2,304,000 pixels.

    Graphics memory bandwidth, as assessed by Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor, of at least 1,600 MB per second
     
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  6. HKINGS

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    And it states for the "Premium 128MB Footnote":

    "If the GPU uses shared memory, then no additional graphics memory is required beyond the 1 GB system memory requirement; If the GPU uses dedicated memory then 128MB is required.

    The dedicated memory on the 7200 is actually only 32MB... the other 96MB is shared... does this mean performance will suffer even though it can technically use system memory too?

    This all seems confusing and i know it shouldnt be... LOL
     
  7. trakslacker

    trakslacker Notebook Enthusiast

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    The Go 7200 is more than capable of running Vista Premium with Aero. Basically what that footnote is saying is, "If your GPU uses shared memory, you are ok (this would be because to my knowledge every modern integrated graphics chipset can pull at least 128MB out of main memory). If your GPU uses dedicated memory only, it needs to have 128MB dedicated." This footnote does not take into account the hybrid cards that make use of HyperMemory, Turbocache or whatever else you want to call it.

    At the end of the day, the only thing Vista cares about is that the GPU has a total of at least 128MB of memory available to it, regardless of whether it is shared or dedicated.
     
  8. ZanyDog

    ZanyDog Notebook Guru

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    The confusing part (to me anyway) is:

    which reads to me as - no additional system memory is needed for shared type gpu's. But yes, I agree, is a bit confusing. :confused:

    Zany
     
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    See my above post. Bottom line is: Assuming the GPU itself is Vista compliant(DX9, etc.), then as long as the GPU can allocate 128 MB of memory, regardless of how it is done or whether it is shared, dedicated or a combination of both, it will be fully capable of running Vista Premium (Aero glass).