Is the T7500 worth a $100 Upgrade

Is the T7500 (2.2 GHZ) processor worth the $100 upgrade from the T7300 (2.0 GHZ)?

 

You probably will not even notice the difference. Use the $100 to get a case or something special for a loved one .

 

Put the $100 towards more RAM...that will improve performance a lot more than a faster processor.

 

Ahh, now that is a much better idea. Props night!

 

Nope! Unless you want to shave off 3 minutes in a DVD encode.

 

Techically, it would be more than 3 seconds...but it isn't worth $100 that is for sure.

 

just what i was gonna say

 

lol..but he said 3 minutes..not 3 seconds

does a faster processor improve every day usability for surfing and word processing and opening up apps? Thanks

 

No, it doesn't.

 

thanks for your response...so what techinically speeds up opening an application? I was just curious..thanks

 

faster hard drive^

 

More memory! You can just keep it open the whole time! I have outlook, about 15 tabs, word, Groove, Excel, OneNote, and synctoy open almost all the time.

 

Solid State Hd!

 

more memory.. 2ghz is enough to processing power.. any more and it will just drain the battery faster

 

I recently justified the upgrade from the T7500 to the T7700 on two machines.

For me, if it saved 1 minute over an 18 hours day, (and it does), I would get back something like $5000 over the four year expected life of each machine.

Of course, your mileage may vary

FWIW, I can tell the difference in the .2 ghz difference. The T7700's are just a little snappier. Not much, but just enough to tell.

This is not somthing thats going to help you surf the web any faster. For that, you need two things: (a) a faster internet connection and (b) a server on the other side that responds fast enough.

My mother in law use to have a saying: "If you cant type at or read at 300mhz, the additional speed may not do you any good".

There may be other things that will give you a biffer bang for the buck, such as more RAM. Of course, you can always add the other stuff later, usually for cheaper. On the other hand, replacing the CPU is a difficult and expensive operation. It may be better to bite the bullet now and get the fastest CPU you can afford, then upgrade the other components later. Dedends on what you pan to do with the machine, and how long you plan on keeping it.

Joe

 

the snapiness may just be a psychological thing...you pay extra for something and your mind wants to see faster results

 

I would rather believe there some have minds that are so slow, they cannot feel a difference of almost 10%, or want to deny that one might actually feel a difference that significant.

Why not power down your processor by 10%? Feel slower? I would not think it's all in your head. I would say "I think you probably can feel a little difference in some CPU intensive operations".

Number do not lie. I think the actual difference is what 9.1%? For some of us, that equates to money. For some, it equates to life itself. If you are waiting for something to finish, that is time out of your life spent that you cannot get back. You only have so much time on this earth, so the queston becomes, Whats your time (life) worth?

I beleve my work time has a high value. I believe my time off (time with family) is worth much much more than my work time.

For me, the savings will easily very equate to over $10,000 of my work time over 4 years. The savings is probably much higher as I was very conserative in the savings, and in any case, the payback way exceed the costs of the machines themselves. The value savings of my "Life Time" is worth much more than that, so the payback from my $140 investment (2 x $100 - 30% off) is huge.

Joe [Noting I just waisted today's gain rambeling on here]

 

Mainly hard drive speed, amount of ram, and the amount of fragmentation of the hard drive.

 

ahh..interesting...so you just essentially multiplied your salary/yearly income by 200% (last post stated that it saved you $5000 over 4 years from the 1 minute you saved per 18hrs)


at this rate....you divide $10,000 by 5 to get $2000 per year...divide that by 365 which is ~$5.50 per day (and this is being conservative and indicating you work 365/365 days a year)..

esentially 1 minute is worth $5.50 to you from your statement since you stated that these calculations are from you saving 1 minute per 18 hours...multiply $5.50 by 60 and you are making $330 per hour!!...esentially $660,000 a year (of course being very conservative)...and that is only working the standard 8 hours a day 5 days a week.....either you are bs'ing big time... or you are psychologically being succumbed into thinking you are saving that much money!!

sorry i wasted approx $40/8 minutes of your time for you to type back and forth

 

think if from 7300 to 7500 not really much... 200mhz as mentioned not much. you could easily refer to alot of benchmarks out there for that..

different clock speed usually brings very little improvements (fews seconds) but platform upgrade does quite a lot more (core duo to core 2 duo) maybe 10~20% ..
depending on your application however, some application such as visual render may squeeze every bits out of your CPUs..

Opening application requires very minimal cpu power but more ram certainly loads faster with less HDD paging/swapping...

HTH.

 

eyecon82, when you open a application it is pulled off of the Hard Drive and loaded into RAM (inside of Vista though it actually keeps your most commonly used programs preloaded into RAM for faster loading). If you have a small amount of RAM, it will limit how many applications you can have loaded up at any given time. If you have slower RAM and a slower RPM Hard drive it will slow down the time it takes for a program or file to load. If I were you I would go with the 7200 RPM Hard Drive, and if you plan on getting 4GB of RAM, don't order through HP, because you will only pay a fraction of the price buying it on your own and installing it. Also, if you are going to be running Vista, I would buy no less than 2GB of RAM, anything less is just a bad idea. Also, on a side note, the fastest RAM that can go in a HP laptop at the moment is 667Mhz, so if you do buy the RAM aftermarket, keep this in mind.

 

200% = 2 machines, 2 operators, working 16 to 18 hours per day, 6 to 7 days per week, often including holidays.

And I dont make a salary. If I make anything, it's called a profit.

Joe

 

I think that you guys are straying a little bit off the topic at hand. We are talking about a computer user, not business owner or anything like that, that is asking if it's beneficial for his purposes to go with the upgrade.

It would help us give better opinions on if you should go with the upgrade or not if you tell us what you will using the laptop for? What types of programs, etc.

 

Well, if you do intensive software development, I think high end processors will definitely help because compile times will be faster, as well as running automated testing environments, virtual machines (and development on virtual machines) and so on. I think JoeCHecht uses his laptops in such a setting, in which case, every little bit of upgrade helps.

 

LOL!!

+rep

I guess if you can quantify time that precisely... then either, a) You're a robot, or, b) You're working 100% of the time, with no stopping to sneeze, yawn, answer the phone, etc. Oh, and you make no typo's because they waste time and money to fix

 

You are correct, and I am very sorry. Sincere appologies to everyone.

We use our machines mainly for software development, and occasionally for video encoding from DV Video to MPEG2 (usually about 50 to 90 gigs of video data of data at a time). It is not uncommon for us to run 3 or more virtural machines at the same time, from a group of 40 some odd prebuilt VM's, so there is a lot of starting, stopping, and suspending of the VM's going on, and a lot of network traffic. Needless to say, we have max out the machines in both harware and useage. The addition 0.2 ghz seems to make a small, but noticable difference. comparing a T7500 and a T7700, doing the same exact task, the T7700 comes out ahead by about 5% to 7% on average (noting that disk throughput is keeping down the average gain).


Joe

 

my apologies for being sarcastic...I didn't realize you were doing encoding, which is very cpu intensive

 

You probably gain more time/productivity by not wasting time on sites like this