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    Is this too hot for nx8220?

    Discussion in 'HP' started by ching82, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. ching82

    ching82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, I just finished running 3Dmark05 with my nx8220 and during the heavy 3D rendering my cpu temp goes up to more than 80 and sometimes more than 85 degrees. Is this normal? should i undervolt the cpu? Or there is anything wrong with my nx8220.

    Could anyone check if yours gets this hot during 3Dmark05
    Mine is p-M 1.73Ghz with 512 of ram, X600 64mb model.

    Thanks
     
  2. island_boy

    island_boy Notebook Geek

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    I don't have your particular model, but that certainly does sound hot. Have you contacted HP and asked them what normal peak operating temps are?
     
  3. Venombite

    Venombite Notebook Virtuoso

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    What BIOS version are you running? The new F.0F is designed to make your CPU run hotter before the fan kicks in. The "design" is meant to keep the fan noise down. The fan doesn't kick in until 50 degrees celcius now.

    But in regards to the temp, yes, 80-85 does seem high. I don't think I have ever hit that high before. You may want to check your power management settings (Laptop/Notebook setting) and goto the BIOS and see if SpeedStep is enabled.

    -Vb-
     
  4. JasonSnake

    JasonSnake Notebook Consultant

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    I don't have this laptop, but I have the presario r4000. It seemed kinda warm too me.. I just noticed when I look under the laptop, one of the fans is not running. Is this normal? Only one is on.

    can I run that 3dmark on mine to find out the temp?
     
  5. ching82

    ching82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Venombite, I think mine is BIOS version F.0E. The fan normally kicks in lower speed from 40 degrees and normally my cpu temp will be around 47 to 52 most of the time(browsing internet and watching dvd). When I run 3Dmark 05 temperature gradually goes up to around 60 and 70, after about 15 minutes of running 3Dmark It will reach its peak at 80 or 85. My power management setting is Laptop/Notebook. Is it possible that becuase of high ambient temp cause my laptop to runs hotter? cuz right now in Melbourne is quite warm( around 30 degrees). Or there's something wrong with my laptop :(
     
  6. profblack

    profblack Notebook Enthusiast

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    The CPU temperature of my notebook reaches 80*C under full load and I have the latest Bios. The Case temperature is even in idle 56*C.
    This is after I got my notebook back from the hp service they replaced the mainboard. I didn't notice the computer to get so hot before.
     
  7. JasonSnake

    JasonSnake Notebook Consultant

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    maybe they didnt' reinstall the ducting assembly correctly to let out the hot air...
     
  8. Venombite

    Venombite Notebook Virtuoso

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    JasonSnake,
    The R4000 have 2 fans and most likely either an AMD or Intel P4 CPU. These will run hotter than a Pentium M notebook, so the comparison can't really be done between these 2 systems. With that said, these units have 2 fans and the 2nd one usually is either idle or on low rpms. It only kicks in when the temp really gets hot.
    You can use MobileMeter to measure your temp.
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    Ching82,
    If the ambient temp is 30 degrees celcius, then yes, this may contribute to the temp. My average temp at home is approx 20-23 degrees celcius.
    What you may want to try doing is lifting up the back of the notebook by 1". This will increased airflow around and in the unit. I've noticed a drop of a couple degrees after I did this.
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    Profblack,
    If you're running with the lastest BIOS, this could explain why you're running at 56 degrees celcius when idle. The new BIOS has a threshold at approx 50-55 degrees before the fans kick in. This makes the unit run hotter, but the fans run less and therefore is quieter. Apparently, some people have complained about the fan noise on this series (I have no idea why, mine is quiet!).

    You can try downgrading the BIOS to the F.0E BIOS, but let me tell you, this may screw up your settings. I didn't like the increased temp of my notebook, so I reverted back to the old BIOS. Well, after I did that, my CPU speed sometimes decides to run at full speed. I tried rebooting with no luck and even changed my Power Management settings without success. I finally went into the BIOS and decided to turn off some features and then turn it back on. This time it worked and my CPU went back to running at 800Mhz while idle or performing light work. But the problem seems to come back randomly, so I wouldn't recommend reverting back unless you really don't like the increased temps.

    -Vb-
     
  9. estag08

    estag08 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Venombite, what software did you use to see what frequency your CPU is running? Does HP have a power management software? I think my battery could be used for more time...
     
  10. vassil_98

    vassil_98 Notebook Deity

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    you can use Mobile Meter, it will show your frequency. Alternatively, you can use CPUz, NHC, Rmclock, etc.
    HP does not have a power management software, Windows XP does and this is what all computers use by default. If you want to try to prolong your battery life RMClock is a very good power management tool
     
  11. estag08

    estag08 Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks for your answer. i will test this RMClock. i ran 3dmrk03 and after tests the cpu was 54 celsius. i think it is a acceptable value, doesn't it?
     
  12. lku

    lku Notebook Consultant

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    Had a similar problem before. My Turion would go up to 80 something celecius and the fans would be screaming. Installed RMClock and undervoted. Now my temp max out at 58C. Your 54C sounds good.
     
  13. estag08

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    I will keep monitoring my temperature. Let's see what happens when I play NFSMW for hours. :eek:
     
  14. vassil_98

    vassil_98 Notebook Deity

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    RMClock alone will not do miracles. Undervolting is a bit more complicated but still it's fairly easy so I suggest you give it a try. You will see considerable drop in temps if your processor is Turion