Lenovo (IBM) ThinkPad T61 moved up over HP DV6000 in sales?

i was gonna get the dv6000 with th santa rose stuff, now i see that the T61 moved up over the dv6000, so im re-thinking... does the T61 have santa rosa also? and which one do you think i should get?

 

well it is up to you.. the hp has better design but the t61 is better built but a little but more $$ liek 200.. what ever is your flavor. Yes it has Santa Rosa.

 

Also keep in mind that Lenovo's new Santa Rosa unit has a discrete graphics option (nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M), albeit a workstation card.

 

When the dedicated versions of the dv6500 come out, things might change so who knows.

 

anyone know when the new versions of dv6500 are comin out?

 

it didnt move anywhere in sales...if you are referencing the list on this websites homepage. That is just a list of "popular" most clicked computers.

 

I dont know why IBM is so popular, ok it is very well build, but my friend have one, and the screen is crapy and dim, speakers are terrible, and it looks like 10 year notebook even if it is new. Is really built quality over screen, sound and design?

 

bballer3 they are out but the nvidia cards will be out sometime in june

 

people have the perception that it has bettter " build quality", which I dont find as true anymore. Its a relic from the 90s when the IBM! Thinkpads earned that reputation. Other manufacutres have caught if not surpassed these quality standards...but people still remember the old IBMs because the new Lenovos look that exact same. Smart of Lenovo.

 

Well after seeing the lenovos it was just too plain and simple for me but it did feel sturdy and well built but comparing it side by side with hp, the hp is really eye catching with their design.

 

I tend to agree about the Lenovo Thinkpad's screen dimness and extremely low speaker volumes. The thinness of the T-series notebooks also play a factor in the popularity of the Lenovo notebooks.

HP really needs to step up there game and offer higher resolution screen options for the dv2500t and dv6500t line. I just cant stand the low 1280x800 screen resolution for a 15.4" notebook.

 

I think hp's business line is better than the ibm thinkpad line. I dont know why that doesnt get more popularity.

 

My first guess would be price. Every time I go over to to HP's SBO site to configure a unit I get a rude case of sticker shock. Aside from which, the layout is not the greatest.

 

Care to be more specific?

 

HP lacks a recognisable brand name for its business line. Doesn't the marketing gurus at HP know that naming your product with confusing numbering schemes appended by alphabets don't help at all? The Thinkpad is instantly recognisable, while telling people you use a HP Compaq usually elicit responses like "they're crap", simply because people associate them with the consumer Pavillion/Presario range.
HP has established its Pavillion and Presario lines and have inherited the Armada and Evo brand name from Compaq when they merged. I've always wondered why it didn't continue to use those.
I'm also guessing that HP earns more revenue from its consumer lines, hence the business range doesn't really need much promotion.

 

The HP business line notebooks are much higher in price than the thinkpad. I was trying to decide between the dv2500 and t61. I went to microcenter to check out the quality of the HP and the thinkpads. The dv2000 just felt cheap. It's appealing because of the design but I just didn't like the feel of the keyboard or the mouse. Someone on here suggested I take a look at the HP's business notebooks. Well, I priced one out and it cost way more than the thinkpad and was just completly out of my budget. Plus the page where you configure your machine is a little confusing.

So it came down to the dv2500 and the t61. The t61 costs about $150 more, but I was able to get a wxga+ screen , a 100gb 7200rpm hardrive and the intel turbo memory. Whereas on the dv2500 I wasn't able to get any of these. So their really wasn't much of a dilmma for me as the thinkpads had a better reputation and customization that fit my needs.

 

I'd say that the dt series definitely feels cheap compared to the Thinkpad line (we use TP at work, I trust throwing it around a bit).

Pair that up with the fact that you can get a better machine from Lenovo for the same price as the hp2500, it makes sense that the T61 is more popular right now.

HP either needs to make their machine better or make it cheaper. RIght now it's no cheaper and has less features.. And less customization too (no 7200 hard drives, no matte screen, no Intel Turbo Memory, no 1 DIMM memory option, no touchpoint)

 

what exactly does the turbo memory do?? can some one explain?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Turbo_Memory