Lots of HP Pavilon post, not many Compaq posts?

Are Compaqs that unpopular or inferior? I see many posts on HP Pavilon series, but very few on Compaq's Presario series.

 

no, it's because compaq laptops are very well designed and well built, that most customers who brought compaq computers report little or no complaints. Therefore much fewer issues and problems are presented in forums...

 

I see you've gone with the nice v6000z. Though for what you want the dv600z would have been cheaper. As for me, i am getting the dv6000z because it has a better processor than the v6000z on the cheap, and plus free shipping makes it cheaper than the v6000z with any config. So i said to myself: "Do i want a better processor for free?" and i chose yes and i think i made a good choice. By the way it's shipping that makes the v6000z so expensive, otherwise it'd be as cheap as gum. As for everyone else i don't know.

 

Compaq has a very bad name when it comes to PCs (desktops or laptops). They were a top tier but their quality lacked. Hence today Compaq is seen as the cheaper HP. HP on the other hand in the last 5 years have had great quality.

 

I got my setup at Best Buy, with $100 knocked off the $899 price for $799 because I signed up for clearwire wireless. So, for what I got, I think I got a good price.

 

Quick, lets start a debate about how good/bad the merger was for the company... on second thought, no.

My gut says that the Compaq branded notebooks are going away in the not to distant future. People are used to Compaq being owned by HP that the name just isn't worth as much as it was before. And now with them buying Voodoo, where would Compaq brand fit into that product set? That's not to say that the pedigree will go away, the Proliant's are as strong as ever on the server side, for example.

For all I know, the only reason HP kept two laptop lines was to have a solution for the custom who looks at the silver Compaq and asks the sales rep, "Do you have this in black?" (or vice versa).

 

Well some computers like the Compaq Presario C500t are ok for emergency backup notebooks, and vacation purposes. Otherwise i think that compaq really is the worst brand of notebooks ever. HP seems rather fine, but one thing that has me worried is that in the review on this site the reviewer said that there was some kind of touchpad issue but it was easily fixed so it's still good for the price.

 

Except for one thread, a lot of bad stuff said about Compaq!

I did my homework and I'm extremely happy with my Compaq!
This is proabably my 25th + notebook since 1985, (I still have that one) so I know a little bit about notebooks. I ran this Compaq full bore with many windows open and using Adobe Photoshop etc with no glitches. Plenty of speed.
Yup, I'm happy with it.

 

I've had opposite success.

Compaq V2000Z, almost 1 year old, still running strong with not one problem, durable too. Solid budget laptop.

HP DV6000Z, 3 weeks old, gets sent in tomorrow for repairs (resonance + vga out degradation).

But Compaq's new systems are as reliable as HP's since they are basically the same technology under the hood. I think we will start to see Compaq's name go from "cheap junk" to "budget quality" soon. Their new business class notebooks are also turning some heads.

 

It's funny how PC quality runs from one end of the quality spectrum to the other.

Case in point, I've had my dv9225 since Jan 30th & I've had zero issues with it.

Yeah, I probably just jinxed myself, I know.

 

Well, its nothing to do with actual product quality since Compaq & HP models are pretty much the same except for the external design. HP positions Compaqs at the lower end and so do not offer some features like the webcam, fingerprint reader, remote and the option for a dedicated graphics card. Also there are only 3 Compaq models available compared to the 6 or so HP models on sale. Plus the Compaq models arent always cheaper. Naturally you will see more people buying the HP options rather than the Compaq versions.

Up until 2-3 years ago HP used to offer a full range of Compaq equivalents for almost all HP models but they have cut down on this and probably my guess is that at some point in time they will drop the brand name.

 

honestly, I would say HP Laptops look much sexier, with much better quality than Compaq laptops

 

The above comments makes the most sense than the other commentsposted!
People usually post when they have problems and the HP dv series sure seems to have a lot of problems posted. I don't see many complaints or problem posts on the Compaq.

 

Maybe you'd better go look again
Because I was comparing the HP dv series piano black/silver one with the same specs as the v series; the lid, bezel and main body are all clad in a smart slate grey shiny finish with charcoal keysand. They both looked extremely nice. I went with the Presario as I liked that look a little better, especially the keyboard area and I haven't seen a notebook done like that yet.

Granted... I didn't care much for compaq's previous sandpaper black lid look.

 

LOL compaq's are supposed to be budget laptops. the internals will be the same as in the HP laptops, it would make no sense for HP to use different components unless the compaqs are built with cheaper less quality parts.

I think the reason there are less compaq complaints is

#1 theyre so cheap that if you have a problem with it, throw it away and buy a new one hehe

#2 the more people buying a laptop, the more chances there will be people with problems who will report them in forums like this. the less number of sales, the less likelihood someone with a problem will find a forum to complain/seek help.

#3 the problems could be so apparent earlier on that the compaq buyer just simply returns his/her product for a replacement, refund or alternative model.

#4 compaqs being built for a budget may not have been supplied with keyboards (optional component hehe) and therefore the owners are unable to type which results in less complaints

#5 they are ashamed they've bought a compaq and don't want the world to know how poor they are

Seriously, the internal components cannot differ, this would just be impractical and costly. Also you may have a problem that has already been addressed so why ask for help when you can help yourself? Perhaps one should do a poll to find out which HP laptop series does one own, Pavilion, Compaq or them business models whose names I forgot

 

or maybe you never used HP laptop, and your current laptop is Compaq one :laugh:

 

Jealousy is a terrible thing!:laugh:

My last 3 notebooks have been the HP dv series and before that several Dells and like I've said before, I've owned over 25 notebooks since 1985, so I know a lot about notebooks.

Kind of like the auto giant GM, who shares parts with several other makes/brands, so does HP with the Pavilon / Presario series.

 

I made a new laptop. It's called the kubelpc. Not a single complaint on these forums, so that positively indicates kubelpcs's are superior to Compaq's.

Point: HP outsells its Compaq division. Plus, most people here aren't budget laptop consumers, so most people here don't own Compaq's. So the number of posts complaining about Compaq isn't an accurate measurement of quality.

In reality, the quality between both are likely identical since they both now use identical parts (except finish and upgrades).

 

pfft! I owned a kubelpc a few days before i got my dv9000 AND it was crap!

the box it came with wasnt actually a box but a drawing of a box colored brown!

the laptop inside was made of cardboard with the components penciled in!

it came with a separate cardboard component with "bateri" written on it!

the AC adapter was a drawing on a piece of paper with a line around it, they expected YOU to cut it out!

the screen didnt even have a backlight and had the word "weend'ohs" on it and it froze! well come to think of that was the only thing that resempled a REAL PC, windows always freezing lol

otherwise build quality was a perfect 10

 

Compaq IS HP folks!

Pavilon dv series = many posts with many complaints!

Presario v series = hardly any post with no complaints!

When I was shopping at Best Buy, Circuit City and Fry's I noticed there were more people looking at the Presario while ignoring the Pavilon.

This Presario has performed as well if not better than the last 3 Pavilon I've had.

So, what does that tell you?

 

It tells you that out of hundreds of problem free laptops, you have been unlucky enough to have 3. this clearly means that someone has put a curse on you, never to buy a pavilion that works!

i already stated that in order for you to prove yourself even remotely correct is to have a poll whereby users vote which laptop series they have and then we can determine how many compaq, pavilion and business users are in the forum.

what kubel clearly meant and said was that the presario division doesn't sell as much as HPs other divisions.

the less laptops sold = the less complaints

why?

cuz the probability of problems rises and falls depending on the number of units sold.

to say that one item is better than the other solely on the number of complaints on one forum is like me saying that Windows ME and 98 are super reliable cuz noone in the forum has complained about them lately.

so i recommend that you remove your current OS and install Windows ME, it's ULTRA reliable

 

im usin a compaq and its having bad heat problems, but i dont saying anything.

It damaged 3 ac adapters already on its own for some reason, they worked good after a couple weeks then I have to play with the wire just to get it chargin. And my batteries get really drained out after a month of usage, rite now It only lasts 30 minutes at max without the power plug, so cant really go anywhere lol. but ill live with it

 

And how many notebooks have you owned since 1985 to back up your wisdom?

 

I think we should badger HP to give us the info on both the dv, and the v series laptops so we can end this squabble. DV series is better no matter what.

 

No Squabble! The dv and v series are the same, just the way they look is different. You can configure both the same way when you order from HP.
I think with the t you can order the intel cpu and the z is the amd cpu.

 

Yeah, but my DV6000Z comes with free shipping. Which allows me to have a better processor for the same price as yours if configured on HP.com

 

No offense, so please don't take it that way, but just because someone, anyone has owned allot of something, anything, doesn't mean they are all knowledgeable about what they've owned.

My mom has been in, owned & driven allot of cars in her 66 years of life, yet she couldn't tell you the 1st thing about how they work.

Also, with more sales of anything one is bound to see more complaints or failures since the ratio is higher.

That's pretty much the bottom line when it comes to complaints & failures of anything.

 

I can tear a notebook clear down to it's last piece and put it back together, many times. I do this kind of stuff for a living. Do you?

Enough said.

 

hmmm interesting. so somehow the fact that you "fix" laptops for a living means you know more about this than everyone else? if that was true then you would have mentioned it from the start, and wouldnt have needed this forum's compaq complaints count to prove your point.

the edit made due to some insulting comments also means that you have sensed that you are losing an argument which was shaky at best and have resorted to those comments in desperation.

I knew this car mechanic once who had been in the business for over 30 years, even worked in a racing team in his younger years. he was a good mechanic but he didnt know everything cuz quite simply, you can't know everything! there were things about my car he had no idea about and my car was almost 20 years old.

you said it yourself (i think), the parts are the same. so saying one laptop series is better than another series cuz of less faults is like saying the R32 skyline is better than the cefiro/altima of the same year due to reliability, when they have the same engine and running gear.

 

I can tell that most of you who responded know very little about these notebooks... I rest my case.

 

From your posts I can tell the same about you......i rest my case also

 

The name fits! I got SideSwiped by you again! LOL

 

Alright guys...keep it down.

 

Ok... I'm done.

 

hehehe indeed you are

anyways who cares which is better, theyre just laptops and we aint little boys

actually i like the new compaqs, not flashy but still not boring.

discussion over

 

So do I. HP already has drivers up for the yet-to-be-released V6500T, but it will probably only be available with an integrated gma as before. I wish they would put some discrete options into the Compaqs. They could sell so much more of them this way...............

 

yeah but they probably dont want to cuz they are generally targeted towards the strictly office/word processing user. also it would increase their price and i guess people who want that are catered for in the top range business and consumer pavilions

 

well... some compaq models have in fact MUCH better build quality than pavillion...

a little research before you buy is recommended