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    Low Windows Experience Index RAM score with 2gb of RAM

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jak140, Mar 3, 2007.

  1. jak140

    jak140 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I recently purchased a hp dv9235nr which comes standard w/ 2gb of ram. When I check my Windows Experience Index score it appears that my ram is limiting the system with a score of only 4.3. Isn't that really low for 2gb of ram? I saw some other sites where people got scores of 4.5 with only 1gb of ram, does anyone have any idea what might be going on? Thanks!
     
  2. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    I have 2GB RAM in a dv6000t and get a 4.5 on the Memory quotient. Where mine falls down is on the NVIDIA 7400 which measures a not-so-great 3.3 on gaming graphics. The desktop performance is only a 3.7, and I would have expected it to be in the high 4's, at least. From what I've read, NVIDIA's drivers are not yet tweaked for Vista.

    This is the way my system stacks up:

    Component Details Subscore Base score
    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz 4.8 3.3
    Determined by lowest subscore

    Memory (RAM)2.00 GB 4.5
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 3.7
    Gaming graphics 399 MB Total available graphics memory 3.3
    Primary hard disk 119GB Free (142GB Total) 4.9
    Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium
     
  3. oblio98

    oblio98 Notebook Consultant

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    I have a new 9000 with 2Gb of RAM, and my Windows Experience is 4.5.

    The RAM is the lowest score, which to me is surprising. You would think this laptop would be a smoker!
     

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  4. dagamer34

    dagamer34 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Windows Experience Index tests RAM speed more than RAM amount. So having 2GB of RAM does not automatically get you a high score.
     
  5. nanjowood

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    Did your notebook come with the 2GB RAM installed or did you add it?

    I just bought the dv6253 this week (with 2 GB RAM) and it earns these scores:
    processor: 4.6
    RAM: 5.9
    graphics: 3.1
    gaming graphics: 3.0*
    hard disk: 4.3
    A lot higher ram score for the same amount of ram.

    My gaming graphics (nVidia6150) were originally rated at 2.6 and I was pretty sad about that. But yesterday someone showed me how to update a score. He turned off the screensaver then asked windows to "Update my score" . The score increased and did not drop again after reinstating the screensaver.
    I tried this when I got home and my lowest score (gaming) improved to 3.0, where it has stayed.

    So it couldn't hurt to try something like that, changing something that might use ram and updating your score.
     
  6. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    How do two HP dv6000's which have the same memory and the same memory speed get such diverse readings at 4.5 in my case (dv6275us) and the poster with the dv6253cl get a 5.9?
     
  7. Aversio

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    CPU could affect the ram score if I'm not mistaking. IE if you have 2mb l2 cache (t5600 and lower) compared to 4mb l2 cache in the t7200 and up cpus.
     
  8. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    The processor for the dv6275us is a 1.83 GHz Intel® Centrino® Core 2 Duo T5600.
    The processor for the dv6253cl is a 1.6 GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core TL-52.

    So, unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible), the HP with the faster processor has a lower RAM score (4.5) than the HP (5.9) with the slower processor and they both have the same amount of memory (2GB) and the same speed memory (PC2-5300).

    Even if the poster mistyped his RAM score and should have typed 4.9 instead of 5.9, it is still higher.
     
  9. JadedRaverLA

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    WEI scores for RAM seem to favor AMD processor systems across the board. I would imagine this is due to lower latencies of the on-chip memory controller.

    Here's two systems in my house with the same RAM score:

    Notebook: Intel C2D T7200 w/ 2 GB DDR2-667 RAM
    PC: AMD A64 3500 w/ 1 GB DDR-400 RAM

    Both get a 4.5 RAM score. Go figure.
     
  10. Aversio

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    Sorry, was on my way out and didn't notice that. :eek:

    But jadedraverla is right, the intel and amd chips handle memory in different ways which has an impact on performance.
    Whether or not the scores represent actual real world performance, I could not tell you.
     
  11. Rafo

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    Just got my dv9500t, and its runnign very slow in most applications the WEI score for RAm is the lowest with only 3.1 ...I have a PC Core 2 Duo T5 2.2 Ghz and 2 GB RAM ...but still these two are the lowest of my scores, suggesting the slowness of the PC might be related to a problem in them?

    Any ideas?
     
  12. mystery905

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    With my rig, my memory score is the highest for me, 5.9 (!)

    Processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 4.7
    Memory (RAM) 1.87 GB 5.9
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 3.4
    Gaming graphics 623 MB Total available graphics memory 3.0
    Primary hard disk 94GB Free (141GB Total) 4.9

    I would attribute this to the on-die memory controller of the AMD. Intel tries to compensate by having larger L2 cache, but apparently in this benchmark, doesn't make much of a difference.
     
  13. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The real answer to your problem is that you are looking at the wrong benchmark. WEI is a piece of crap, junk non-industry-standard bench that is as crappy as you could possibly imaging. My WEI scores, when compared to others, really don't align well at all. I had a machine that was 1/2 as powerful as mine get a higher score! It all boils down to software and driver quality...that is it!

    Look at PCMark and 3dMark benchmarking suites to see if you really are okay or not.
     
  14. mystery905

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    Things to keep in mind:

    - there is no industry benchmark out there, although there are favourites/established ones
    - it is possible to fake W.E.I. scores; I read somewhere you just need to edit an HTM file
    - one of the reasons for benchmarking is to determine if one's system is optimized with the right settings and versions of drivers
     
  15. chrixx

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    Yeah I edited my WEI XML file and gave myself a fully-satisfying 5.0 on a paltry X1300 graphics card.
     
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    i think the whole microsoft score benchmark is bogus. don't rely on it too much
     
  17. Rottie

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    Compaq v6420 with a score of dismayed 2.4
    Processor - 4.6
    Memory - 5.2
    Graphic - 3.0
    Gaming Graphics - 2.4 (I can't figure out why)
    Primary Hard Disk - 4.9
     
  18. mystery905

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    Use version 165.01 driver from laptopvideo2go.com. I get 3.4 Aero Graphics, and 3.0 Gaming Graphics, using a 6150.
     
  19. Rottie

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    Thanks but that driver is for Windows XP only and won't work with Vista I tried install it won't work thanks anyway.
     
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    You have to remember that the Vista score is on ram speed, not amount.

    And on the speed scale, the santa rosa memory bus is 667, fastest stuff on the market is 1333 and that's why the experience score is low, max score possible is 6.

    my 8510w w 4gb gets a 4.8 on mem, everything else is in the mid to high 5s
     
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