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    Modding - dv6t/dv7t Quad Edition (2011)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Bag3l, Apr 9, 2011.

  1. speedking261

    speedking261 Notebook Consultant

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    That's good to hear. This is something I would definitely be willing to try if the price was right.

    You can find them on eBay for ~$30, but no US versions.
     
  2. Bag3l

    Bag3l Notebook Evangelist

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    If you happen to try this, let us know if you can get the backlight to work. Theres an empty slot where you should be able to plug the backlit dongle into.
     
  3. speedking261

    speedking261 Notebook Consultant

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    I would be willing to try this if I could find a US keyboard for around $20. I really don't want to spend more than that just to test if it will work. Would anyone be willing to donate small amounts so we can try this?
     
  4. MyFishWagon

    MyFishWagon Notebook Consultant

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    Ill contribute $5. Anyone else ?
     
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    Has anyone been successful at switching to a different wireless card yet? Something in the Intel 6200 or 6300 series?
     
  6. Vaio Z Power

    Vaio Z Power Notebook Consultant

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    Envy17 keyboards part numbers by location

    NEW HP ENVY 17 Keyboard Belgian Clavier Bronze Backlit
    ebay 15.99$
    NEW HP ENVY 17 Keyboard Belgian Clavier Bronze Backlit | eBay

    HP ENVY 17' Keyboard Latin Teclado Backlit Bronze Frame
    ebay 16.99$
    HP ENVY 17' Keyboard Latin Teclado Backlit Bronze Frame | eBay

    HP ENVY 17 Keyboard Tastiera Italian Bronze Frame Black
    ebay 21$
    HP ENVY 17 Keyboard Tastiera Italian Bronze Frame Black | eBay

    HP ENVY 17 Keyboard Clavier French Bronze Frame Backlit
    ebay 19$
    HP ENVY 17 Keyboard Clavier French Bronze Frame Backlit | eBay

    on LaptopPartExpert there the EE.UU keyboard
    for 44$
    HP Envy 17 Keyboard 617348-001 - LaptopPartsExpert.com


    I still do not I have my lappy (no stock here)
     
  7. infoMatt

    infoMatt Notebook Consultant

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    Are you sure? Please, do you have some photos?
    The only pictures that I saw are taken from the manuals, and the only connector in proximity of the main keyboard one is for fingerprint reader :(

    Notice also the different spacing of the "notches" that goes under the external surface where the touchpad is. Some owners will have to verify that there's enough space to insert those notches that in the Envy one are in different position, compare in particular at the page 64 of dv6 manual and the photos post above: for the dv6 the notch is between right-CTRL and left arrow (most under the latter effectively), for the Envy it is right under the CTRL key!

    I hope I was clear enough...
     
  8. Vaio Z Power

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    Seems that also there the light cable connector

    [​IMG]
     
  9. kevmanw4301

    kevmanw4301 Notebook Deity

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    Theres a power connector in the picture. Someone, get one and test this!
     
  10. MyFishWagon

    MyFishWagon Notebook Consultant

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    Lets get the ball rolling on this...as another user stated before, we can contribute to a paypal account.

    As I stated earlier, first $5 comes from me. Who wants to do this ?
     
  11. AaronIROCZ

    AaronIROCZ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can tell you that my DV7-4269wm walmart special (bought 3/2011) does NOT have the extra connector for the keyboard backlight. I know that this a different machine than most of yours but just an FYI. Although I am looking for a 1080p screen for it and I think I might have found one.
     
  12. speedking261

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    I think I'm going to remove my keyboard and post some pictures. If anyone will willing to donate to me buying a keyboard please send me a message. (anything will help) I promise that I will not accept money until we find an acceptable keyboard.

    Thanks

    Edit:
    Actually I might not disassemble is. I just saw the manual and graphics from the previous poster and both look the same. Do you guys want me to disassemble it and post pictures?
     
  13. MyFishWagon

    MyFishWagon Notebook Consultant

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    If you decided to purchase and install the backlit keyboard AFTER you have disassembled your current one, I will gladly donate :)
     
  14. shasta7

    shasta7 Notebook Evangelist

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    If you do, measure everything carefully slots etc.....
     
  15. speedking261

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    I'm trying to remove it as per the instructions in the manual, but it seems too difficult. They say that you need to push on a small hole on the back of the keyboard with a screwdriver. When I try it, it seems like the keyboard will break before it comes out. I'll keep trying.

    Edit:
    I'm giving up for now. I'll reset and try again later
     
  16. MyFishWagon

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    Eeeeeek :/
     
  17. infoMatt

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    I think you may have to apply some force to bend it and let the notches pop out from their slot..
     
  18. speedking261

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    I applied a lot of force to try to pop it out. I thought that I would break the board, but it's working fine. I'll try again later with additional force. Removing keyboards on other laptops are much easier. Does anyone have experience with other HP's?

    Edit:
    I Got It OFF!!! ;)

    Results and pictures forthcoming.
     
  19. infoMatt

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    No I haven't, sorry :eek:.

    I've looked at the manual, and it simply say "push until it disengages" but it seems more difficult than expected... But if HP wrote this it must be the right way... try maybe with a rapid push instead of slowly pushing it outwards... but it's my interpretation! :confused:
     
  20. Vaio Z Power

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    have followed all the steps?

     
  21. speedking261

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    Ok guys I got it off and I don't think the other keyboard will work without modifications. Here are the issues:
    • There is no port for the power/light cable. The closest thing is the finger print reader port, but I don't know if that will work.
    • The tabs on the bottom of the Envy 17 keyboard seem to be placed in different locations. I put the spacing of the tabs on the picture and below for reference.

    I'm not sure if simply replacing the keyboard will work. People who know more about this than me will have to make the judgment.

    Additional information
    • Length from tab 1 to 2: 62mm [Red]
    • Length from tab 2 to 3: 86mm [Orange]
    • Length from tab 3 to 4: 96mm [Yellow]
    • Length from tab 4 to 5: 62mm [Green]
    • Length from tab 5 to 6: 57mm [Blue]
    • - - - - -
    • Length of touchpad cable: 9mm [Yellow]
    • Length of keyboard cable: 9mm [Green]
    • Length of fingerprint reader cable: 9mm [Red]
    • - - - - -
    • The Orange box on the picture with the label is the thing that you press against to remove the keyboard. It is strong, so you wont risk breaking the board like I had worried.
     

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  22. Vaio Z Power

    Vaio Z Power Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the info speedking261

    a question, the tabs have a specific place where you fit in, regardless of each?

    or just a complete gap for all tabs fit in a simple area without independence?

    In other words, if they are not in the same place, you can not insert?
     
  23. shasta7

    shasta7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Which model exactly do you have? I have a dv7 4295
     
  24. Nerdium

    Nerdium Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ohhh that's a bummer. Are you sure that's the fingerprint reader and not the trackpad light?
     
  25. Bag3l

    Bag3l Notebook Evangelist

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    Hopefully it's the trackpad light. I'd sacrifice a glowing trackpad for a backlit keyboard any day.
     
  26. Vaio Z Power

    Vaio Z Power Notebook Consultant

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    Is a good idea. but also I think it may take to feed the two

    also would be nice, because with a simple doubletab on trackpad the on/off
     
  27. blee026

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    awww man that sucks if it doesn't fit.
     
  28. speedking261

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    The tabs are spaced exactly to the location of holes on the chassis. The holes are about 5mm larger than the tabs, though.

    My model is the DV6-6091NR. This is the latest generation model.

    I hate to have to confirm this, but it is the fingerprint reader. I disconnected and tested both. The touch pad LED power is on the same cable as the touchpad data cable.

    Maybe the fingerprint reader would be the same size as the keyboard LED power? (But then you would have to trade the fingerprint reader for a back-light keyboard) I wish I could provide any suggestions, but I have nothing at this time. Lets find some way to make this work.
    Side note: Taking the keyboard off requires a lot of force. I feel like I will eventually break something if I keep doing this.
     
  29. Bag3l

    Bag3l Notebook Evangelist

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    Mmmm, i'd still take Backlit Keyboard > Fingerprint reader. We learned how to type for a reason, and a fingerprint reader isn't really necessary.
     
  30. Nerdium

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    The backlitcable is 4pin, and the fingerprintconnector looks to be 5pin. I doubt it will work. Ripwind said that he thought he saw an unused connector, so maybe it's there on just some models. Not likely, but still... Something to hope for.
     
  31. infoMatt

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    Maybe ripwind hadn't got the fingerprint reader, so the connector was unused...

    The only thing to hope for is a connector on the motherboard but not visible with top chassis in place... but in this case you'll have to drill/saw the metal... :confused:
     
  32. Nerdium

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    All Dark Umber dv6/dv7 have the figerprint reader, soo yeah.. Maybe if we're lucky there is one under there, but doesnt seem so plausible. Why would they bother with the connector if it were going to be hidden and unused?

    Anyways I'd never drill a hole in my computer for backlit keyboard, seems too risky and I dont wanna loose my warranty.
     
  33. speedking261

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    I didn't look under the EMI shield for additional ports. This would involve removing the majority of the computers components. I tryed looking at ripwinds teardown pictures, but the MB is facing the wrong way. But in all honesty, why would HP create an additional port if they had no use for it. (future use, maybe?)
     
  34. infoMatt

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    Maybe for standardization... I mean, if two or more laptop could share the shape and connectors of the board, it is cheaper to integrate all the functionalities and not using some of them (in particular if it's just about a connector and 2-3 transistors) than re-develop the whole thing just to add a SATA channel or a USB port...
     
  35. Binarygeek

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    I'm pretty sure Ripwind saw an unused four pin connector (but I will have to dig his post out and make sure). If it is on his, it will be on all of them.
     
  36. speedking261

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    Before I do anything close to a full teardown we should find that post. Also remember that the keyboard's tabs are spaced differently for the Envy17
     
  37. Binarygeek

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    I agree. Ripwind THINKS he saw a connector.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-114.html#post7323142

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by drbugs
    hi Ripwind
    as others have mentioned, I'd be curious if you saw some form of power connector that might be able to be used for a backlit keyboard? Hope springs eternal. Tx for your teardown!

    If I recall there may have been one unused header, 4 pin connector. No idea what it was for, so possibly
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    I currently have an Asus G73 series laptop, and it has the backlit keyboard. I love this feature, and would like it on this computer. I upgraded the cpu on a DV7-9207, so I am fairly confortable disassembling and checking for myself to see exactly what is on the system board. I am actually more concerned about the tab spacing difference of the Envy keyboard. Onward with research!
     
  38. sskos2000

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    Anybody have any luck installing a 6200 or 6300 series Intel wireless card into their DV7T or DV6T, and get it working? Very good "Mod" if it works!
     
  39. Nerdium

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    Yeah, true. None of the tabs are on the same place, though for me that isnt much of a problem. It's just to cut them off and glue on some home-made ones or use that roll of double-sided tape I got.
     
  40. Binarygeek

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    Wonder if my 6250 w/Wimax would work. Would sure love to have this instead of the 1000.
     
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    Regarding the issue of the keyboard tabs, would it be possible to replace the rear casing on the envy keyboard with the one from the dv6/7? This would require actually require disassembling the keyboard modules though. One thought I heard a while back was to wire the power from the usb ports to the keyboard. Another thought would be to find where the power attaches to the trackpad and re-wire it to the keyboard. Both these options would be best done with a ribbon cable so as to fit under the keyboard.
     
  42. Binarygeek

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    Even if there is a power connector, and I believe there is, It does not seem as though we will be able to secure the keyboard. Screwholes do not line up. Chopping off the tabs and using double-sided tape may work for some folks, though.
     
  43. shasta7

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    The tabs should not be a problem with a dremel tool to the casing to accommodate the different layout. Right now the problem is, is there a connecter.
    We can figure out screws and such later. IMHO
     
  44. panthermark

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    Rep'd for giving this a try....
     
  45. Binarygeek

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    Looks like I am probably wrong about this. As was pointed out earlier, there does not appear to be an extra power connector. Can't see one in the service manual, either.
     
  46. speedking261

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    If anyone want to verify my findings/remove the keyboard, here are some tips:
    • You will need a small metal rod/stick/screwdriver/ect. I used a screwdriver from a glasses repair kit.
    • All you have to do is remove one screw (this is displayed in the manual), insert a tiny screwdriver into it, and then push.
    • You will need to apply a lot of force. I had to apply so much force that the tiny metal screwdriver bent. Don't worry about the keyboard itself breaking, but make sure the tabs on the side bottom don't snap off.

    Good luck
     
  47. Falco152

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    When HP depletes their current 6770 1GB models, they might going to replace it with 6770 2GB models.

    their part number # on page 23 of service guide:
    Quad Core models: 650799-001
    Dual Core models: 650800-001

    -kudos to justinkw1 for noticing that. :)
     
  48. sLinkAge

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    Sure, lets wait, shipping date for these bad boys ~2014 :)
     
  49. Bag3l

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    But there is an existing power module correct?
     
  50. Falco152

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    Not the first time they done something like this before. Usually 3-5 months after initial release. Maybe when they do 61xx models. :)
     
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