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    Monitoring software (cpu load, cpu temp, hdd temp) for HP

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Flyah1, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. Flyah1

    Flyah1 Newbie

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    Hi

    Got my self a new HP DV5-1110, Athlon X2, 3450.

    But can anybody recommend any good monitoring software for Vista, 32bit?

    On my desktop I use "dtemp", to show the harddrive temp in the sys tray, but dtemp cant read the hdd temp on my HP :confused:

    And an another program for showing the cpu load or/and cpu clock in the sys tray..? tried NHC 2 pre 06, but it hangs when I go to settings to configure the program..

    thanks
     
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    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    fattail95 Notebook Evangelist

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    everest ultimate edition, hw monitor or rivatuner are all good.

    hope this helps!

    fattail95
     
  4. Fragilexx

    Fragilexx Get'cha head in the game

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    I'd recommend HW Monitor. Also, for other general information, maybe you could also try CPUid
     
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    CyberVisions Martian Notebook Overlord

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    The others are correct - HWMonitor is one of the best for Temp monitoring. You can get it at CPUID.com

    As for the load monitors, you don't need an external program - Vista already provides that. You just need to know where to look.

    1. Go to Start, Control Panel, Performance Information.
    2. Click on Advanced Tools. Note that any system issues will be noted at the top with a yellow exclamation icon.
    3. Click on Reliability and Performance Monitor.

    The Performance Monitor shows you in real time what processes are open and how each critical process is handling them.

    If you click on Reliability Monitor on the left side, it will show you theStability graph and any problems your system has experienced.

    If you go back to the Advanced Tools main window again, there's a link there to configure Vista's ReadyBoost feature. Essentially it allows you to use a flash drive with up to 4gb as an additional RAM source.

    Also on the same window is the link to your System's Event Viewer/Logs. Open them up and go through the various logs and learn which logs give you the best information. You can set the Event Viewer to log specific events on your system as well, such as the state of your system or network when a program starts, available RAM gets to critical levels, etc.

    Speaking of Available RAM (as opposed to physical RAM) - if you have trouble with RAM Resource Management (you're running a lot of background processes but 3gb isn't enough for those and programs you wish to run) understand that your system doesn't give back the same amount of RAM it allocates when it starts a program or process. It always gives back less than is allocated, so over time if you don't restart or have a program to reclaim that used RAM, your available RAM resources for new process/program startups will eventually reach critical levels. When that happens, your system will turn to your HD and begin to use it as a virtual RAM device, causing small freezes, or in some cases outright lockups. You can help avoid that with a program I've used (well, before I got a 64 bit system anyway) for years called Memory Boost. It monitors your available RAM in real time and flags you when it gets to critical levels. It also allows you to try and recover any used RAM that wasn't given back to the system by a QuickBoost feature.

    I run a lot of RAM intensive program - MB helped me get through the times when I only had a half-gig of RAM on my desktop.
     
  6. Flyah1

    Flyah1 Newbie

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    Thank you so much all of you! :)

    Both Hwmonitor and Everest was great, and the built in load monitoring in vista worked great too.

    But none of them could show me the temp of the harddrive. It seems they can't read the SMART values, and thats probably why dtemp could't show the temp either. Tried SpeedFan to try to monitor the fans inside the laptop, but it could get anything there either.

    But Everest was able to tell me it is an:
    "WDC WD25 00BEVT-60ZCT1 SCSI Disk Device".

    Has HP blocked the ability to let the users get the SMART info from their laptops? and the fans. Has anyone else experienced this? or is it Vista that blocks this.. :confused:


    thanks again so far :)
     
  7. Flyah1

    Flyah1 Newbie

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    Bump:

    Nobody that can answer why I cant read the S.M.A.R.T values of the harddrive? Neither the temperature of the drive, or the fanspeed inside the computer. Is it HP that has made a restriction or something?
     
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    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    Not all HDD's report that info. Fujitsus tend not to.

    As for fanspeed, most notebooks do not report that info either.
     
  9. Evolution

    Evolution Vox Sola

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    Correct... my 160Gb Fujitsu does not report temperature as for whatever reason Fujitsu have not included a temperature sensor in the drive, it is just something you have to get used to.

    As for reading S.M.A.R.T values you can try HDtune.
     
  10. Flyah1

    Flyah1 Newbie

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    Thanks for answer. But it is a WD harddrive and it is supposed to report temperature and smart info.

    HDtune and Everest among with other software (even HP's own systeminfo) didn't manage to report this info, BUT the program HDDscan was able to do this :) But this software can't show me the temp in the sys tray, so its not useable for me.

    As far as I've found out, these common programs cant read hdds with SATA ahci enabled. I was in the bios on my dv5-1110, but I could hardly change anything inside the bios, almost none options. So is there a way to transform/change the mode my hdd is in? from sata ahci to a mode that these programs can read?
     
  11. blackshard83

    blackshard83 Notebook Consultant

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    May I suggest Coretemp too?
    Not just for temperatures, but I think it is more accurate for cpu load reporting, since it probably uses cpu performance registers instead of OS cpu usage APIs.
     
  12. paradigm

    paradigm Notebook Deity

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    Flyah...dude i am running the dv5 1009tx, with a WD 320GB BEEVT, Everest reports the drive's temp, infact you could run everest alone and get all parameters you want to display on the sidebar.......

    update bios
    update to atleast the 1007 AHCI drivers....or not i don't think it should be a bother
    use the Everest sidebar utility v 2.0 by sfkilla, or the everest sidebar utility 5.0 ,
    am running everest 5.0 1650
    select the options under file\preferences\stability...select low level smart (u can mirror these settings ....select all 'cept nvidia gpu and SMbus asus mobo's.....

    then post back and let me know......
     
  13. Flyah1

    Flyah1 Newbie

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    Hi, thanks for support.

    Tried everything you said, except the AHCI drivers, because I didn't find them..
    I've found people with the same problem, but they all have a intel/nvidia system. I have an AMD/ATI system.

    I use Everest 5.01.1700. And it can't get the smart values or the temp. As said earlier hddscan is the only program I've found that can get the smart&temp status.

    Everest report this:
    storage-> ata-> device type: RAID
    Model ID: WDC WD25 00BEVT-60ZCT1

    storage-> SMART: nothing

    motherboard-> chipset-> Northbridge: AMD RS780 / AMD K11 IMC
    southbridge: AMD SB700

    motherboard-> BIOS-> BIOS type: Insyde
    version: F.32
    date: 03/02/2009

    Storage-> Windows storage-> "WDC WD25 00BEVT-60ZCT1 SCSI Disk Device"

    I don't understand what is wrong :confused: