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    NOW AVAILABLE - ENVY 14 Spectre

    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    old 14's onboard sound was pretty good but the speakers sucked the suck
     
    Lvivkse, Jan 9, 2012
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    Rubenstein Notebook Consultant

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    now that you say it I can see it as well! This is the one you are referring to, right? :D
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    blunt ripp off... they should get rid of these big screens, a one line display would easily do for serious linux console work... ;)
     
    Rubenstein, Jan 9, 2012
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  3. envys

    envys Notebook Guru

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    ... /// trol /// :p
     
    envys, Jan 9, 2012
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  4. Eclipse251

    Eclipse251 Notebook Guru

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    Hey I saw one of those in an old movie. That's one of those typewriters isn't it? :p
     
    Eclipse251, Jan 9, 2012
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  5. iaTa

    iaTa Do Not Feed

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  6. a7medo778

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    lol 1400$ without even a GPU... and not to metion the same current generation CPU

    hp, never again
     
    a7medo778, Jan 10, 2012
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    What a complete letdown... no dedicated graphics, 2 usb ports all for $1,400? Gorilla glass or not, you'd be a complete monkey to buy this. This really reminds me of the first generation envy... gorgeous like hell but only reserved to those who don't have a budget in mind. Would it need to drop by at least 200-300 for it to be a consideration for most buyers.

    Well, at least we now know why the radiance screens were not being offered in the earlier HP Envy 14s. It would have been in competition with these babies.
     
    nasman, Jan 10, 2012
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  8. Thors.Hammer

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    What was HP thinking? FYI, when I called to cancel my HP Envy 15 order, I told them I planned to buy the Spectre. I have no plans to do that now. Sheesh.

    Well at least the new Samsungs look cool.
     
    Thors.Hammer, Jan 10, 2012
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  9. bloodyredd

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    No dedicated graphics? D:
     
    bloodyredd, Jan 10, 2012
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  10. envys

    envys Notebook Guru

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    Well, yes. Want to be a monkey with radiance monitor? Buy ENVY 14 Spectre
    Yo will be tru ENVY with radiance!

    So they have the option to return radiance display to next 3xxx Envy 14
     
    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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  11. envys

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    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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  12. envys

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    [​IMG]
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    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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    Actually it isn't too bad looking. The glass lid looks like an iPhone4.
     
    Thors.Hammer, Jan 10, 2012
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  14. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    Because it's Gorilla Glass 2.0. And it will shatter
     
    wild05kid05, Jan 10, 2012
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  15. envys

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  16. bloodyredd

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    It would be actually be worh buying if it had a dedicated graphics card.
     
    bloodyredd, Jan 10, 2012
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  17. nasman

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    Ok... I take it back... It's not just for monkeys. Its also for monkeys who can afford to stay in 6 star hotels.
     
    nasman, Jan 10, 2012
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  18. excalibur1814

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    excalibur1814, Jan 10, 2012
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    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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  20. timjuliani

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    Assuming this can be bought with the ubiquitous 30% off coupons, you should be able to pick one up for under $1000.
     
    timjuliani, Jan 10, 2012
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  21. Lvivkse

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    Lvivkse, Jan 10, 2012
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    wow400, Jan 10, 2012
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    So what's the likelihood that we see an ivy bridge version in April?
     
    MishoXV, Jan 10, 2012
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  24. Thors.Hammer

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    In April? None. I wouldn't expect to HP update this machine to Ivy Bridge until well after that.
     
    Thors.Hammer, Jan 10, 2012
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    Spectre seems really underwhelming i was hoping for a similar package as ultrabooks but with a mid range GPU.
     
    ajaidev, Jan 10, 2012
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    I feel the same way. All that effort put into that promo, not to mention giving it the Spectre codename, all for nothing more than a copy of an Envy 15 with no dedicated graphics. :confused:
     
    Eclipse251, Jan 10, 2012
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  27. Lvivkse

    Lvivkse My username is a typo

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    but it has glass!!!!!!!!
     
    Lvivkse, Jan 10, 2012
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  28. Alias

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    It wud have been exceptional if it didnt have a castrated i5 and and also came with a GPU.
     
    Alias, Jan 10, 2012
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  29. cam121

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    It will be awhile before any ultrabook will be considered an acceptable gaming solution. The lack of space and heat dissipation inherent in these small designs means that current technology will run too hot for the latest in performance. I personally see the ultrabook taking off as the "corporate" or "business" solution and replacing most of the current laptop generations. These machines have everything I could possibly want as a corporate user.

    The ultrabooks may get to the point of being able to play simple games at high res or intense games at lower res with acceptable FPS, but I'm sure we'll still hear about the person who can't play Crisis at max settings @ 60fps. /sigh

    Then again, technology is changing so fast, who knows what could happen. I'd love to see a new GPU that runs under 40C at max output.
     
    cam121, Jan 10, 2012
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  30. Bronsky

    Bronsky Wait and Hope.

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    My guess is that ultrabooks will add graphics through an external GPU run through a thunderbolt port. I'm hoping to a TB port on the Thinkpad X2 when it is released with Ivybridge CPU.
     
    Bronsky, Jan 10, 2012
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    Like how the Vaio Z does it?
     
    coldmack, Jan 10, 2012
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  32. excalibur1814

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    Or how the ViDock (eGPU) does it?

    Either way I hope the reviews show this item in a positive light compared to the Folio 13:
    - Remove 16 screws to get to the hard drive
    - Only an mSata drive (Fair enough)
    - 4Gb ram MAX!

    If they're going for business as well as pleasure then drop the mac way of doing things and let admins change hard drives and max out ram (...because all admins like to run VMs from a thin laptop :) )
     
    excalibur1814, Jan 10, 2012
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  33. Bronsky

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    Yep. Or like the MBA is supposto do it. It depends on what Intel decides to support on the mobile Ivy Bridge chipset.

    I'll be waiting for the ultrabooks to get Ivy Bridge in April. Still waiting to see what Lenovo does with its Thinkpads. I must admit that i am somewhat confused about the market HP is targeting with this notebook. It is a consumer device but its use would seem to be more business oriented and it seems awfully big for an ultrabook. The radiance display may be a selling feature, however.
     
    Bronsky, Jan 10, 2012
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  34. Gadgetlvr

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    Greetings all, has anyone seen this video preview of the spectre HP ENVY 14 Specre hands-on at CES 2012 - YouTube at first it appears to be more of the same until the 1:03 mark where the product label shows the specs for what appears to be a customized version of the hp envy 14 spectre ”suggested retail $1,049usd, cpu intel core i5, ram size(gb) 640, storage size(gb) 8, graphics card 1gb ddr3 radeon hd 6630 switchable graphics, weight 5.7lbs, height 1.2”.. These specs clearly take the spectre out of the”ultra book ” category but are interesting none the less.. I would love to hear what you guys think of this.. On a side note the screen looks beautiful and appears to accurately display reds..
     
    Gadgetlvr, Jan 10, 2012
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  35. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    yknyong1, Jan 10, 2012
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    The announced 900p screen in the Spectre makes me wonder why HP doesn't add a 900p screen upgrade in the current Envy 14. You know... the one with a GPU.
     
    c0mplex, Jan 10, 2012
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  37. Thors.Hammer

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    Well there's always hope and room for improvement with a black Beats Spectre.
     
    Thors.Hammer, Jan 10, 2012
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  38. envys

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    Becouse this is business. Want to buy with radiance 900р? Go with new line of notebooks.
     
    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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  39. envys

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    Yes. I hope so.. I have 1st gen edition and very love black theme with red style.
     
    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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  40. envys

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    Wow... switchable graphics... so current envy 14 2xxx will be dead -))
     
    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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  41. wmurch3

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    Considering they got the RAM and storage fields mixed up i don't know how much stock I'd put in that detail sheet.

    Not sure why this wasn't mentioned by any of the tech blogs. At that price point, i would probably bite.
     
    wmurch3, Jan 10, 2012
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    If this ENVY is using the same IPS screen as 15, wouldn't this laptop have the same RED/ORANGE problem?
     
    CompUG, Jan 10, 2012
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  43. envys

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    Hmmm I just did not see but weight - This is a weight of HP Envy 14...
    Or are they the same weight???? But different materials and height and ....

    I think there's some mistake in stand on the video.
     
    envys, Jan 10, 2012
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    ^This^

    I took it with a grain of salt myself, as this is the first I've heard of such a configuration.. Worse still, the previewer remained silent throughout the video..

    Playing devils advocate though on the hp site it says ”actual weight may vary by configuration” so who knows..
     
    Gadgetlvr, Jan 11, 2012
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    I think it's pretty obvious these specs are completely wrong.
     
    redsvt95, Jan 11, 2012
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  47. FrinkTL

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    Here are my thoughts on this newest laptop from HP:
    1. I question the wisdom of an all-glass lid, "gorilla" glass or not. Definately not something you could ever buy without Accident Insurance
    2. ULV Processors? Yuck! I've used the Thinkpad X200 series laptops with those processors in them and was unimpressed. I wouldn't even BEGIN to be interested in this laptop if there wasn't the OPTION to get a non-ULV processor...even if it was only an i5 (vs. i7)
    3. No Optical drive? OK. I can handle that if I get something back in exchange. So...what DO I get in exchange? From my perspective, it's not obvious. I guess the bonus is for HP engineers, since they don't have to do a month of all-nighters to custom-engineer an optical drive to fit in the thin chasis.
    4. No Dedicated graphics...AT ALL? Another Yuck. I'd be happy even if it was a middling GPU. I'd be elated if it was switchable like my Envy 14 (2nd Gen) is. Alas, all I get is glass.
    5. "Spectre"? What an AWESOME name for a laptop. Too bad they wasted it on a laptop like this. I guess they chose this name because the performance is nothing more than an apparition, a phantom...That said, I like Dictionary.com's second definition of "Spectre": "a mental image of something unpleasant or menacing." LOL
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    Overall, I'm glad I have my Envy 14 and won't be in a big hurry to get the Spectre. Perhaps the second generation (in a year or so) will have more performance-friendly options.
    OR...maybe I could just have my Envy 14 custom detailed with the Spectre name?
     
    FrinkTL, Jan 11, 2012
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  48. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Specs revealed
    ULV i Core Series as expected
    HD3000 - What else can be put inside?
    The only saving grace is the Chassis size. 14" screen in 13.3" chassis.

    AnandTech - HP Announces ENVY 14 Spectre Ultrabook

    Spectre has a 14" screen but HP claims the chassis size to be more common in 13.3" laptops, which matches up if you compare it to e.g. 13" MacBook Pro (12.78" x 8.94" x 0.95"). The use of a bigger screen allows HP to use a higher resolution panel, as 1600x900 is more commonly found in 14" and 15" laptops (although there are 13.3" laptops like Sony Vaio SA and ASUS Zenbook with 1600x900). The stock configuration comes with Core i5-2467M but HP offers configurations with Core i7 ULVs as well (HP didn't list any SKUs, though).
     
    yknyong1, Jan 11, 2012
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    Completely dissapointed with this Hp. They said that they chose the name Spectre, because it evoked mystery, I guess the mystery is what were they thinking when they made this thing?
     
    Eclipse251, Jan 11, 2012
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  50. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    I love it. Best ultrabook on the market, and the first that's arguably a better total package than a MacBook Air 13. At least a serious, serious competitor. We'll see how the execution is, but it looks promising.
     
    Mitlov, Jan 11, 2012
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