NOW AVAILABLE - Updated ENVY 15, ENVY 17 / ENVY 17 3D

Yeah I doubt it too. But so far on this page there are 4 HP responses. 2 of them say 6870m, 1 says 7670, and 1 says 6620G! Guess we shouldn't expect much knowledgeability out of CS staff who is inputting pre-set marketing lines.

 

Lets keeping doing live chat thing until we see some consistency.

 

That may be a bit of a backwards way to go about it - you're just adding more unreliable information to the mix (but then that's what these threads are for, eh?)

Until somebody has a definitive source or is looking at one of the new machines, I wouldn't believe anything the live reps told me - they are just looking stuff up in their computers and that's only accurate if the front-line guides have any better information than we do, which they might (the 7670/7690s seem to be the likely answer) but no way to know for sure.

 

Nvidia and AMD rebadge mobile GPUs, release 600M and HD 7000M series | The Verge

Sorry if this news is old. Just saw it on The Verge. Any significant info thats been discovered lately regarding the Envy 17's gpu?

 

Just ran across this article a few minutes ago...

AMD Radeon HD 7690M Powered HP Envy 17 Notebook Spotted in Europe - Softpedia

I dunno how reliable the info is, but they're claiming a 7690M gpu in an Envy 17.

The HP reps that are saying 6870M are probably reading the specs for the previous model of Envy 17 3D.

 

HP is either really behind the game or has a different sale incentive. Ivy is launching in April . Are they going refresh again in summer (unlikely) or september for Ivy or even push further to Dec 2012 when we all die (lol).

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I bet at most times, you guys are wasting time talking to support reps. It's likely that they are from India who just follow a set of protocols. It's even their real name. Learned that from ECON 102

 

Do you know if the bios of these laptops is UEFI?

 

IPS is not mentioned in that video, here's the brief part where she talks about the display: Hp Envy 15 Redesigned - YouTube

The only mention of IPS is in the video's description, which was added by the poster, not an HP rep. I haven't seen any official mention of IPS on the new Envy models, nor from anywhere that seems reasonably credible. Since static 2D display quality is my primary concern, I've been paying attention and looking for any official confirmation. None yet, so far as I know.

 

i think SB and above has to use uefi

 

Pretty sure the new envy 17 will have much longer battery life, they claimed up to 9.5 hours, it has a 90+ WH battery and while the gpu is probably weaker than the 6850, it has one trick that should be welcome on a notebook. Switchable graphics.

 

The United States

 

Just got off the phone with someone who called me from when I signed up to reserve my Envy on the website. She told me the Envy 15 has the 7690 and that is per the latest product information email they received yesterday. I told her that there's a lot of misinformation going around about it and she assured me that was right. Also for what it's worth she was definitely American.

 

Did she say what the specs of the 7690 even are?

 

Didn't ask sorry. I'm at work and I was using my lunchbreak yup talk to get instead of eating lunch

 

Too bad there's no SSD + HDD option in this huh. Love it on the Envy 14 SB

 

Lol no problemo, I'm sure she wouldn't know anyway.

 

I actually asked about this too because I life it too. she said they should hopefully becoming down the road, but no idea how long.

Just called and talked to some random sales guy. He guaranteed me that its a 7690 so now I've got two separate people from different departments saying that.

 

Looks like they want people to just drop in one of those momentus drives.

I just chose the base 500GB drive when I ordered the 15" early this morning. I can upgrade the drive later. I did not upgrade that much really, the memory to 8 GB, the cpu to the base i7, and the screen to 1080p. And luckily I always search for those hp coupons before I order and saw the 33% one.

Only downside is the wait now, but it'll be less than a month before I can finally retire this dying notebook with a dying battery.

 

From the way this Anandtech article about the new Envy 15/17 is written, it certainly sounds like HP's reps told the writer that the Envy 15 Radiance would be IPS, while the Envy 17 Radiance would not be. See the third paragraph. AnandTech - HP's Winter Refresh, With Business-Class Ultrabook

 

That's been the consistent line of HP - the radiance in the 15" would be IPS while the 17" would be non-IPS radiance.

The panel's small potatoes compared to the missing Bluray.

 

I think the new 15 model may only have one single drive bay.

 

wifi is 5300? impossible.

my 3 year old t400 has a 5300.

 

I'm inclined to get a redesigned HP Envy 17, does anyone know how good the AMD Radeon 7690M XT with 1GBB GDDR5 is for watching 1080p Anime/Movies?

What about playing games like Portal 2 or Skyrim? (Those are really the only ones I'll actually play much)

What do people even know about this new card?

 

I've been on the phone with HP for over 50 minutes....sigh.

 

According to the Anandtech article and other available sources, it is the same chip as the HD 6770m, with 480 cores. We don't know, though what speed they're running at. But you can assume similar perfomance to those cards.

1080p anime and movies will run fine, you barely even need a GPU for those.

Portal 2 is based on the 7 year old source engine it should be fine.

SKyrim isn't all that demanding, i assume it will run fine on medium settings or so, but maybe not at 1080p, probably at a scaled down res.

Just my guesses.

 

I was able to run Skyrim on high settings with a 2nd gen Envy on the 5830 (the laptop in my sig). Pretty surprising actually.

 

Called HP trying to get the 30% coupon to work on 17" non 3D version and no luck...

 

edit: what are the specs of the 5830m anyway? I can't find them online anywhere.

 

Got the Envy 14 Beats to run Skyrim at near medium setting (had to turn shadow or shader down a notch though) but that was the 6630M which is the rebranded 5650

Anyways, 7690M is just rebranded 6770M it seems:

AnandTech - Introducing AMD?s Radeon 7000M and NVIDIA?s GeForce 600M Mobile GPUs

 

I may consider using this laptop for some gaming needs and hoping that it will last me at least 3 year. I plan on getting the 15" but not sure if I should upgrade from 6-8 GB of RAM (but I am getting the baseline quad core). Will I notice any significant difference between the two (and also will the clock speed matter that much as well)?

 

This coupon here seems to work for the new Envy 17s:

http://dealzon.com/deals/hp-envy-17-laptop

list price: $1,499.99
total savings: $400
for $400 off
HP: $1,099.99 w/ Coupon

 

only on the 3D one though.

 

i7-2670QM is plenty fast as a "baseline" upgrade from the dual-core i5. the extra 200mhz from the 2760QM is NOT worth $150 in my opinion.

You're better off putting that towards an SSD upgrade later. Maybe an Intel 320 series or any of the newer SandForce ones that aren't crapping out.

Site listed earlier has a coupon that works on the Envy 15 too.

$971.49 for the Envy 15 i7 isn't too shabby:

http://dealzon.com/deals/hp-envy-15-laptop#hp-envy-15-core-i7-2670qm

Tougher call on the RAM. If you do, you might as well spring for the damn faster RAM option too.

 

different code for the non-3D ones I think. didn't look clearly

 

Yeah that's the one i used for the 3D version. I tried it on the non-3D first, no dice.

With the coupon, I decided to upgrade the cpu to the 2760QM, and the memory to the upgraded 8gb (1600mhz?). 33% knocked off $667. If you're thinking about the 17 but don't need/want the 3D...just do it anyhow. Save some cash.

 

There are different codes for each model. 3D and non-3D have different discounts, so different codes.

I believe that the codes will work on the redesigns though, because they are not new models entirely, just redesigns of the current models.

 

Any reviews on this laptop yet from tech websites? Is the screen confirmed to be good? How is it compared to the XPS 15 1080p?

 

At semiaccurate.com, Charlie said they were rebranded 40nm parts with slight speed increases. So the 7600 is supposedly the 6700 with speed increases and Lower power consumption due to a very mature 40nm process

 

For any Canadians looking for the new Envy 17-3095CA, HP Shopping is taking preorders over the phone saying they expect to ship in the next 3 weeks (or sooner). I just ordered mine. $1699 +taxes (free shipping).

HP Canada - Performance& Entertainment notebooks from hpshopping.ca

From their website:
Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM Processor
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit
8GB DDR3 system memory
1500GB dual hard drive
Slot-loading Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
Radeon™ HD 6770M

I really hope to get this before Xmas!

ETA, HP said they do not have the 15 yet and they guy I spoke to did not know when/if it would be available.

 

I have to say that I am more than a little disheartened to see that the envy15 doesn't slow for a bluray drive. Since having one is a deal breaker, my only option is the Sony Vaio SE.

 

I have no idea why they did away with Blu-ray on the Envy. That's some weird premium laptop there.

 

Yes. Sad face here too. If everything else is as promised it would take this laptop from potentially good to great territory (but I'm sure I'll find things to complain about when it gets here).

 

Perhaps they'll add it later on? I think thats usually par for the course with HP.

They are truly the king of gridlock though when it comes to customer service....

 

You might notice a difference between the 1600MHz RAM versus the 1333, but for gaming you probably won't notice a difference between 6 and 8, and almost certainly not between 8 and 12.

The 5830 is a great little card - only drawback is the DDR3 memory:

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

I don't know that they 'did away with' the blu-ray on the Envy 15 - the previous Envy 15 didn't have a DVD drive at all. You had to get an external USB drive.

 

Well, from what I read earlier, the 2670QM can't utilize the 1600mHz memory, this is why i upgraded to the 2760QM. Also the 2760QM has a graphics clock rate of 1300mHz, instead of 1100mHz for the 2670QM. Since the Envy now has switchable graphics, this might come in handy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge

 

You'll have a slightly faster chip in the new Envy 15 (vs the older 5830M) so at least Skyrim will be plenty playable.

RAM department will just be helpful if you want to multitask on other stuff while uh.. Skyrimming too? It helps when most of the game can be cached into the RAM so you can alt-tab without too much issue (maybe some stupid guide so you can make more IRON DAGGERS)

hah.

edit: didn't eralized the 2670QM won't be able to use the 1600Mhz. Forgot about the frequency match there. Sorry.

You're right too that the 2760QM has the faster clocked Intel 3000 HD so there is that too if you ever want to use integrated GPU and still get okay performance. Hmm did not consider these aspects. Good food for thought in decision...

@Aquitaine You're right. Thinking of the Envy 14.

 

I went ahead with the 2760QM processor and the 1600MHz memory on the 3D 17's. Also chose dual 500GB 7200rpm drives on each. Estimated ship date is Dec 23rd.

Regarding the coupon codes, was able to use the 33% off, but it only applied to one of the 2 laptops ordered, we still got the $250 "instant discount" on the 2nd unit. In the end, it worked out to be about $1851 each (plus tax) for the two Envy 17 3D's with Win 7 Ultimate, Office 2010 Home & Student, 2760QM cpu, 8GB 1600MHz ram, and 2x500GB 7200 rpm dual drives and everything else the 17-3D comes standard with. We dropped the extra extended care pack warranty.

However...

BE VERY CAREFUL on HP's website when you're about to finalize and submit the order. As we were filling out the pages for the purchase and just about ready to enter the credit card info, it reverted back to the $250 instant discount per machine and the large 33% coupon discount on the first machine vanished. We had to go back and edit the "Order Summary" page to put the coupon code back in. I wonder how many people get caught by that little "glitch" and blindly submit their order without realizing their coupon code discount mysteriously vanished.

 

I'm not sure the 7690m will be faster than the 5830m. According to notebookcheck, the 5830 has 800 SPs, and the 7690 is only going to have 480. Would take some seriously high clocks to make that difference up.

 

so, spoke to a salesmanager, and he told me it is a 7690m with 1GB of GDDR5. The WLAN card is an Intel 6300, and these informations are not beeing released by him because he only knows for training purposes.

Makes me happy at least, my order is placed, and I guess I'll swap it to an SSD later on