NOW AVAILABLE - Updated ENVY 15, ENVY 17 / ENVY 17 3D

are there any real world performance differences between the i7s? I've been told that I can have a blank check to buy this thing but the economical part of me doesn't want to add components that won't matter.

already put 8gb of the 1600 ram in...go for broke?

 

Yeah it might beat a mac on specs, but plenty of computers can do that. Nothing will replace a macbook without some SERIOUS marketing. No one goes out of their way to be seen with an HP in public, they do with apple. Also, when I go to the apple website to order a macbook, I can actually see the full specs of the computer, would be nice if HP would give me that same courtesy.

 

After being in the IT biz for almost a quarter of a century, I've learned that all products are a compromise... affected by both internal and external forces, and this one is no different. But hopefully this one will be a pretty darned good compromise. The "dream machine" that totally satisfies everybody's expectations never exists.

 

But they could at least tell us what compromise they made. It's pretty pathetic to try to sell a computer with "AMD Radeon" GPU.

 

Looks like the coupon just died. Anybody else having trouble using it?

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like it was rejecting it because I was logged in with the EPP discount.

 

No argument from me about that... but I've also learned that the bigger a company is (HP, Dell, whoever), the less the people who are actually charged with releasing information know... or are even allowed to know or release. The lack of accurate and timely info about the GPU is probably the fault of corporate lawyers, not the product development management, whose hands are too often tied..

 

I agree 100% with you, but I don't really get where you want to go with your argument. You keep repeating how bad it is that they don't update the specs on the website, agreed, I was unhappy about that as well. That's why I spent a lot of time on the phone and why I got the info from the HP guy. So, you can either keep on beeing angry about the fact or be happy that it looks like we'll get an awsome laptop for a decent price.

In the end, there is only 2 options - buy or not buy. This is everyone's personal decision. It just feels like some people would like to force through their point of view.

 

Are you referring to the 33% off coupon for the Envy 17 3D? I just pulled the trigger on one using that coupon for $700 off, so it appears to still be working. However, the coupon seemed to be... reluctant... to apply itself. I would keep entering the code, it applies the discount, going through the entire checkout process, and then noticing the price was back up to $2100 right before I clicked Submit Order.

I ended up clearing my cookies, making a brand new HP account, and re-configuring it from scratch, and it worked.

 

Sorry to hear that, but I'm pretty happy I got in there just a few hours ago, I almost missed it it seems.

Just wondering - seeing as I got that care pack with mine, would it be possible to use it if I just went accross the border and shipped it from one of those proxies?

I wonder if shiphappens.com allows you to ship from them - that would be great if so..

 

Yeah there's not much to be done about it of course. Just supremely disappointed with the "premium" notebook market in general i guess.

 

you made me panic and order!!!

here's what I got:

Envy15, 1080p screen
i7 2860
8gb 1600 ram

all for 1360 (670 in savings)

 

i noticed that too, just poor programming on HPs part

 

Unless you are a benchmark junkie or have very specific needs, I see little reason to upgrade the processor.

I went with the 2760 because I will use the virtualization features.

 

Could someone PM that 33% coupon code? I'll probably pull the trigger tonight if it still works on an envy 15! (I did search the thread but search tool doesn't seem to be working for me?)

 

you should search google for hp coupons rather than this forum.

the coupon is nbk3573.

others found here: HP® Coupon Code, HP® Coupons, HP® Promo Codes

 

This laptop is getting very tempting but I am so used to matte screens, I am trying to figure out if I could ever go back to glossy. Anyway all is sounding good so far and thanks for all info.

Gary

 

Damn you. Now I'm starting to regret not having sold my Envy 14 (Radiance display, used) to my sis as I'm having new notebook fever!


ETA: About $1200'ish for an Envy 15 with the 1080p Radiance display and 3-year accidental protection is pretty good. Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems to me HP's begun upping the price of their machines slightly and raising the standard warranty to 2 years instead of 1.

 

Yeah. It's a real pity they don't offer anti-reflective coating as they did with the older Envy 15.

 

For those of you who haven't purchased yet but are contemplating, and who also happen to be a Discover card holder: don't forget there's also 5% off through Shopdiscover. Not trolling or anything, it's just that since we're throwing around coupons/savings and all, I figured it was appropriate (not to mention it was yet one more thing that pushed me over the edge to buy).

 

I was disappointed about no matte option as well but I'm just planning on getting an anti-glare cover.

Something similar to this: ViewGuard Anti-Glare Matte Screen Protector Review

 

HP's warranties aren't tied to a certain location or person in my experience. I don't know about in-home service like your care pack offers, but at least the mail-in service should be available anywhere within the US and you might even be able to get service in Canada: some of HP's basic warranties are international and they'll just assume you're in Canada temporarily if they think about it at all.

I imagine you could even get in-home service if you spent a day or two over the border or left the laptop with a friend in the US.

Beware, though - if they don't offer your model in Canada (depends on the rep whether that means Envy 17, Envy 17 3D, or Envy 17 3D 3000CTO), they might hassle you about service in Canada. I personally found out the hard way that the international warranty for my Envy 14 only offers service in countries where the Envy 14 is available, so no service in China where I spend 10 1/2 months a year.

 

Just to note to everyone. I ordered at 6:10AM on December 7. Applied NBK3573 Coupon Code to save $745.80. My total price After Tax came out to be $1631.54. I used HP Preferred Account for No Payments + Interest for 12 months, which I was instantly approved for. Used Fatwallet for another $60.18 Cash back, which they confirmed will be available in March.
Very interestingly got a call this morning from 866-528-3733 Number (which I usually never answer) but it was from HP Preferred to confirm that I put in that Order.

Here's my configuration and I plan on putting my 120GB Crucial SSD into it as primary drive.
Envy 17 3D
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2860QM Processor (2.5 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.6 GHz)
• 1GB Discrete Graphics AMD Radeon(TM) [HDMI, DP] 7690M XT? OR JUST 7690M?
• 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive Slower speed for longevity + battery
• No Additional Office Software
• 6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery Hoping for 9-Cell to come soon
• 17.3-inch diagonal Radiance Full HD 3D Infinity LED-backlit Display (1920x1080) Brighter + 120Hz Refresh Rate
• Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam 1280 x 720 @ 24p
• Intel 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R) with Wireless Display Support Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 Confirmed
• Full-size Radiance backlit keyboard
• Adobe(R) Photoshop(R) Elements 9 & Adobe Premiere(R) Elements 9
• 2 year limited warranty included

Order Status: Order dropped to factory
(Estimated to ship on December 23, 2011)

5 yrs ago when I bought my dv9t I remember that they shipped it 1 - 2 weeks early.. but that might not be the case with Envy because of it's new release.
On a random note I've used my dv9t every single day for the past 5 years (Zalman Notebook Cooler highly recommended for longevity and reliability), SSD upgrade gave me such a speed upgrade to meet with my demands. I also remember using a 30% off code and getting the $2200 for about $1540 at the time after tax. I definitely got my money's worth.
Looking very forward to my HP Envy 17 3D!! So excited!

Anyone have experience with the Extended Warranty?
I usually find it a waste of money but I ordered this HP 3-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for Select Pavilion or Envy Laptop for about $150 after discount. I have been proficient at fixing laptop problems in the past but getting the 1st generation dv9t left me with an awful hinge problem and overheating (before I got the Notebook Cooler) which turned into a fairly costly repair. I bought the 3 yr Accidental and figured I could always return that over next month if I decide to. I'm usually very careful with the laptop but I figure I will use this Envy 17 3D much more for mobility due to it's size and figure this would be worth the extra cost. Any thoughts?

 

DOH!

Missed out!

 

I'm surprised you went for the highest processor but such a painfully slow hard drive (or are you going to put your old SSD in as the main drive?)

 

Do you know if I would be able to ship it from Canada and have the return shipping to the Ship Happens depot in Washington? Or would I need to ship it out in Washington every time?

I've never really had to take in an HP for repair. Come to think about it, the only things I've ever had to take in for repair have been a Nintendo DS, A Toshiba L300 (4x), and my recent Malibal P151HM1 (On it's way back for refund).

I've owned two HPs, and nothing's ever gone really wrong with them.

 

Me too. Could have saved even more money!

 

Your care pack has in-home service, but that will only work in the US. If you can pop over the border to a friend's house for a day there's a good chance you could get your laptop fixed that way.

For US mail-in service, they will take one address at which they will ship you the shipping box and postage sticker (which will only be valid within the US, possibly within a certain part of the US), then they will return the laptop to that same address when it's fixed. If it's a freight forwarder, they might have to ship you the box, then you ship the box back to them and they ship it out to HP, then the computer goes back to them and they ship it back to you. Seems like a slow and expensive nightmare.

However, there's a decent chance that you'll be able to get international warranty support from HP Canada, in which case HP Canada would ship you the box, you'd ship the computer, and they'd ship it back to you (I assume, though maybe they have a storefront you could bring it into or something, no experience with HP Canada). That would be my first option unless you can do the in-home service over the border conveniently.

 

lol, like anybody has a Discover card

 

I ordered envy 17 3d with 1x hard drive will be adding 120gb vertex III max iops, need to know if I need a hardrive caddy and cable and if so what's the part number thanks want to get it ordered so I have it to install when it arrives

 

Thanks for the coupon code! I'm gonna be taking some college classes soon. Didn't think lugging a Alienware M17XR3 to class would really be practical. So I been eyeing the new Envy 15 for a couple months. The 33% coupon and 5% cashback from discover helped me pull the trigger within 20 minutes of seeing this thread

 

Installing my Crucial RealSSD C300 .. but I'm very tempted to upgrade to Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with 550MB/s Read and 510MB/s Write for ultimate speed. The issue with getting the SSD with any customized laptop is they Never tell you which model it is... so I'm just assuming that they all aren't as good. After all, in my opinion an SSD without high read speeds shouldn't be considered an SSD at all. Someone did mention that the 300G with the HP Envy may be the Intel one which could work out.

Yea I'm dying to know if I need the hard drive caddy too.... perhaps I can just contact them and tell them to put one in for me before they ship it. I tried looking for a part number but there's no info until we get our laptop serial/part numbers.

 

Do either/both Envy's have SATA-III (6.0 Gbps)? I've been sporting my SATA-II 120GB G.Skill since my Envy 14 days, but I'm sort of in need of another SSD anyway soon. The SATA spec will determine whether I shell out extra for a Crucial M4 I've been eyeing for a while...

 

Meh. Discover is a prime lender and has unsurpassed US BASED phone reps.

Call them on the phone with a question or problem and you'll find out real quick why they are rated #1 in customer service. Also unless you are packing an AMEX Black, there are really only a small number of lenders that can beat the Discover rewards package. Most will only meet it, plenty fall below.

 

Anyone curious about getting this in canada, there is some good news.

The first two years of warranty can be used globally, any extra that you buy must be send in for repair from the US and received in the US - which is okay if you live by the border.

 

@Rebenstein:

LOL...

"HP Confirms IPS Display and 7690XT"

"Here’s what Darren had to say in confirming a question from a commenter:"

Looks like you're famous, Rebenstein

 

hard drive speed is a function of both rpm AND density. It won't be true in all cases, but assuming the data being accessed is sequential 1 revolution on a 7200 rpm 500GB drive would read LESS data than 1 revolution on a 5400 rpm 1TB drive with Twice the density.

So the 1TB drive may actually be the fastest in many cases. Gets more complicated when it comes to seek times and other things, but higher density drives is also an increase in speed in certain areas.

 

HAHAHA I should change my nick to TheCommenter ^^
btw, my nick is Rubenstein if you would translate "Reben-stein" from German to English it would mean "vine-stone"
"Rubenstein" on the other hand means - nothing I guess

 

A new video from when the two were first announced.

Not sure if it's been posted yet, but here you go. I love the look of the ENVY 17, is the back of the lid also magnesium/aluminium? God I can't wait to get mine...

I'm assuming the past heating issues of the first gen ENVY's have been fixed? Is it safe to assume that?

 

Hm... what about 17" what GPU does it have? Can someone ask question on that blog?

 

Strange how the code NBK3573 is still working on the Envy 15 but no longer working on the Folio :/ I guess I missed out...Now I'm contemplating on wether or not to get the Envy 15...I might wait for some reviews.

 

Do you have Any newer information about the display we were talking yesterday? The Swedish HP official site has the Envy 17 3000eo with "1600x900"? Is this possible? In USA site says only FullHD for the 17 and nowhere has the choice of lower pixels...(I mean for the non-3d model of course)

 

Well looks like the NBK3573 coupon is OFFLINE for the Hp envy 15, just when i was about to order

 

The swedish HP site has 4 models of the Envy 17. 3000eo, 3005eo, 3010eo and 3015eo. The 3000eo has, as you say, a 1600x900 display but all the others have Full HD and only one of them are a 3D display.

The one I'm eyeing, the 3010eo, costs 14999,- though I don't know if a full HD display and 2 gigs of extra ram is worth 3500,-

You can see all the models here: HP ENVY 17-3000 Notebook PC-serien under 'Välj en modell'.

Edit: Maybe I misread your post and thought you only found the one with the lower resolution (excluding 3D). Anyway... håll till godo!

 

Same...dang! a few hours too late I guess

 

We talked about it in previous pages of thread and in my opinion maybe the 1600x900 is wrong, because in USA site there is no 17'' model with non-FULLHD resolution. There i no choice of choose other display. They only have FullHD choice.
Tha serious problem is that in pdf at the same swe HP site, click where it says hela specifikationen datablad (pdf) :

http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/homelaptops/se/sv/product.php?id=A2Q37EA&experience=direct

and see that there is NO INFORMATION about display resolution!

http://www8.hp.com/se/sv/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5197231
This is the problem. The specs dont say anything but HP SWE wrote in the site 1600x900...
If you see the video of the redesigned envy they talk about full hd displays only...

 

As I said in my edit, I misread your previous post.

Usually on smaller markets like Sweden they bring one or a couple of preconfigured models what they think the customers want. It was the same with the original Envy, where the 15" only had the low resolution 1366x768 while in the states you could chose. I'm they got some massive critique for that and I personally waited for the second gen that finally had the Full HD displays. But in this case it's just strange, as you say, there is no lower resolution screens on the 17" even in the states. Then why even bring one model with it here?

But, I doubt it is wrong. If so the only thing that differs the 3000oe model from the 3010oe is 2 gigabytes of RAM. For 3500,-. Yeah right!

 

Now I'm anxiously awaiting my new laptop (Envy 15). Thanks to all of those who posted the 33% coupon code!

I'm going to be coming from an HP Elitebook 8440p, so I'm looking forward to the vastly improved screen. If only HP could have put a decent screen in the 8440p...or even its successor, the 8460p.

I am going to miss one feature, though, and that is the true laptop docking station. I currently use one with the Elitebook and previously used one with a Dell Latitude D630, and both had the integrated monitor stand which transformed the laptops into true desktops when I wasn't mobile.

What is the best way to accomplish the same thing with the new Envy 15? I think the days of a simple connection of snapping the laptop into the docking station are over, since there are not any alternatives for the Envy. USB 2.0-based docks will negate the video card and sound, and USB 3.0-based docks don't seem to exist (yet).

Of course, instead of going from 1440x900 or 1600x900 on the older laptops to the desktop monitor of 1680x1050, I'll actually be going to a lower resolution from the Envy's 1920x1080. Maybe I can convince myself to buy a new monitor with the money I saved on the Envy

Apple's "Thunderbolt" interface paired with a capable monitor really seemed to be a perfect solution if I wanted a Mac.

Any suggestions on a good docking/desktop adaptation for the new Envy 15?

 

Here is HP UK link for Envy 17-3002ea (I didn't see the link in the last several pages)
It has some official specs there at least.

HP Laptops - HP Envy 17-3002ea

It's sooo much cheaper in US... :/

No luck on Envy 15 for the moment.

What I wonder besides the usual discussion points is that how good is the heat dissipation on this machine?

 

It is not only the 2GB Ram the difference. The second model has 2x750GB HDD.
So it has 2GB more RAM and a second 750 GB HDD...but again it is strange the ~390 Euros difference...

 

Off-topic for this thread, but what the heck....

Ruben/Reuben is historically tied to ruby, as in the gemstone so that would make Rubenstein == ruby stone.

Either that or a corned beef, sauerkraut & swiss cheese on rye sandwich stone.