It's here for US and most APAC consumers!
ENVY 15t ordering page


3 June 2012
It is fine now.

WARNING: Don't order yet unless you are willing to take the risk that they may ship you a 15t-3000 series. "Customize your ENVY 15t-3000 series"

It should say 15t-3200 series actually.




Found in http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03178058.pdf

Supports up to 16384-GB of system RAM @ 1333-MHz, supports up to 8192-GB of system RAM @ 1600-MHz,

Also of interest: "System board equipped with the Intel HM65 PCH (includes replacement thermal material):
Equipped with the Intel 7750M chipset (includes 1 GB of discrete graphics
subsystem memory)
679814-001" - believed to be Intel HM76 chipset as per HP Parfsurfer below.

HP Partsurfer.

679814-001 In stock
SYSTEM BOARD HM76 7750M/1G - DSC
551.95

We were unable to match the part number to a list of available models.

HM76, similar to HM65 in product placing


The ENVY 15 is slated to have the AMD HD 7750M 1GB in the next iteration.

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hm65 or hm76?
thats quite a difference since the 76 should be the chipset coming along with the 22nm cpu tick, featuring native usb 3.0 (and thunderbolt?) support.

 

Clarified in OP. HM76.
I believe the ENVY 15 outlook will not be changed, considering it is a new design and the system board mentioned is supposed to fit in nicely. However, I do not think that Ivy Bridge or the 7750M brings about a big increase in performance. At most 10%.

 

This manual is from November 2011... There is a lot subject to change.

 

Sooo... does anyone think that HP will correct all the issues that the present HP Envy had in this HP Envy?

 

according to the leaked specs, which seem quite reliable, the 7750m seems to be some 30% stronger (compute performance) than the 7690m:
Possible AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series Specs Revealed

and the jump from sandy bridge to ivy bridge also will be at least as big as from 1st gen i-core to sandy bridge.

 

Once HP Partsurfer lists the part, it's there to stay.

Ivy Bridge is a die shrink of SNB with a modest increase in IPC. The hardware forums has a thread with data on the 3920XM. There is no way we will see that much of an increase. More probably like from Merom to Penryn.

The specs you are referencing came from the Desktop GPUs. Traditionally x700m series mobile GPUs are derived from x600 series Desktop GPUs with clock speed reduced. Why would there be such a huge jump from 7690M to 7750M? It should look like the difference from 6650M to 6750M.

 

we don't have an eta right? perhaps end of april?

 

does it make sense to hold off buying ENvy 15/17 for these? Curren Envy line is plagued by issues.

 

Hold off Ivy Bridge, is going be released in April and I believe there is an upcoming computer trade show. So I believe we will see a slew of Ivy bridge, I am holding out for a 14inch..

 

Just got te 15.6 and love it, looks like I'll be getting a 14 when these guys are released.

 

7700M will use the 7700 desktop hardware. Why? because 7700 will be the most 'low'end GCN architecture card from AMD/ATI.
It's already stated that 7700M/7800M/7900M will all use the new GCN architecture.
7750M and 7690M will be quite a difference I think, even with downclocked clocks of the desktop parts.
Also remember this chip will be baked on 28nm. Which will translate in higher clocks, less heat, lower TDP, etc.

Don't get me wrong, 7750M will probably be not worth the upgrade from a 7690M, but it will be def more than just 10%. (comparing shaders is worthless, since 7690M and 7750M have a different architecture)

 

I just ordered an ENVY 17, Should i return it and wait for Ivy Bridge?
Will the performance / battery increases be worth it?
Will HP jack up the price? And do you think another 30% coupon would show up around the time of the upgrade?

Thanks

 

1 - i would
2 - yes
3 - full price will probably be the same; no idea about coupons

 

envy 17 will probably even get a 7800M card

 

i hope for an (at least optionable) 7900m. no reason why to leave the top-end notebook segment to some few vendors when the envy line could easily compete with them after the envy 17-1000 fail.

 

because envy17 is no 50mm thick like the 6900M notebook options today.

 

I called it. Didn't I call it? The 7750M is what was originally to be the 7690M, before AMD had to delay the 28nm chips. It will definitely outperform the 7690M by a wide margin.

Next, we'll find out that the Envy 17 is to receive a 7800M upgrade, I bet. 7900M is out of the realm of possibility, unless HP knows how to fit 100W cards in ultra-thin gaming notebooks.

 

If they upgrade the Envy line, I guarantee it won't happen for at least four months.

 

Well. Assuming I have a dadgum job going into my final year of grad school, I may find myself upgrading to this one. My 1st generation E14 is still running strong, but it's also starting to get a bit long in the tooth. I suspect it'll be too significantly underpowered to play games well.

 

based on what?

 

The hope that his shiny new 15 isn't considered old and outdated tech within two months?

 

I have asked the stars and they told me the following:

1.) HP found a way around physics and is now able to put a 7900 in a thin body!

2.) The battery life will be phenomenal, as they use the heat from the 7900 to generate power. The hotter the GPU gets, the more power it produces.

3.) There will be a 31.415 % coupon on April 1st, the same day that the new products will be availible for purchase.

4.) They will release a Software patch to get rid of the current models orange screen. It changes the structure of the backlite so that it can produce the colors that were missing in the spectrum before.

5.) They were able to screw physics again and finally fit in a subwoofer worth the name. It goes down to 20Hz and massages your fingers, so you can type for hours!


All this information is not officially confirmed yet, so take it with a grain of salt!


p.s. I had the current Envy 15 for a couple of days, and I mostly liked it. Unfortunaltly it had some big design flaws (screen, keyboard flex, QC,...) so I returned it. I hope that HP can fix some of them when they update it. Would be so nice to see a great Windows laptop with this form faktor

 

@Rubenstein


#1-4 need to happen sooner than later at least in principle. For #1, they need to kill the optical disk drive as no one uses it anymore. That would make installing an even more powerful GPU possible. #2 can be done with proper R&D into graphene coated lithium ion batteries. No need to use the heat! #4 could come in the form of some kind of fix, though I don't think introducing every single other color missing in the spectrum would be doable with current technology!

 

I just hope they won't nerf the 7750m with DDR3.

 

Than it wouldnt be faster than 7690M... (since 7700M will get a 128bit bus) and would not be logical

 

Getting a 7970 in would be possible without ODD, but I think that will happen only if Apple does it. A 6990 - not in this form factor. In addition, it would make the notebook 200-300$ more expensive, a bad investment for most people. In short, the Envy line does not aim at hardcore gamers. It simply aims at MBP buyers.
Regarding no ODD, HP tried it, and it failed (a lot of users complained about the lack of ODD in first gen Envy 13/15. Don't take NBR-posters as a sample)

The screen can't be fixed by a "fix", it has physical limitations. But for the updated version, it is possible that they overhaul the hardware and fix it.

To the rest, this is the big difference between science and engineering. What is possible in the lab and what we can buy and use in the market are two different stories. Most of the technology developed in the lab will never make it to the market, the rest takes a lot of time. As long as there are no samples from any major company, don't get too excited about that stuff.

I have grown graphene in the lab myself, and it's a great material. But it also has a long way to go. Anyway, that's a different discussion. Back to topic

 

This is why I have advocated for an Envy Gamer Edition where they get rid of the ODD and put in a better discrete GPU.

The current build of the Envy's are perfect for what I do, so I don't want to see these configurations disappear. I am an entertainment junkie so a blu-ray is a must. Also the combination of quad core with medium end discrete graphics is a perfect balance of performance and efficiency for me. I am waiting for ivy bridge with a 7700m series GCN graphics in the Envy 17, or better yet I would throw my wallet at HP for a AMD Trinity APU with 7700m series GCN graphics in an Envy 17.

 

I think it's safe to estimate the 7700M's performance to be in the range of the 5850M GDDR5 and GTX 460M, meaning a good 30% increase from where the 6770M/7690M reside.

 

Personally I think HP attempted to remove the ODD during a time when most consumers were still reliant on optical media. I think that if HP wanted to try this again, the least they should do is include a USB DVD-Rom drive as part of the package. This way, people who are still against the idea of removing the internal ODD have the "safety net" that the included USB drive affords. The external drive could migrate to an optional accessory in future models once consumers get used to this idea and experience how few times the drive is needed. Just a thought.

Think of it as being given the chance to purchase your dream car at an affordable price that comes with everything except working brake lights. Some people will feel perfectly fine fixing it themselves while others will hire a third party to fix them; yet still others will pass up the deal because they believe working brake lights are required as part of a standard car purchase.

 

What does " Intel 7750M chipset" have to do with AMD's graphics cards?

If that is the name of the chipset, then there is no information provided about the GPU.

 

theres just something mixed up a bit..
intel HM76 is the chipset and amd radeon 7750m is the gpu.
they just specify both in the same line since the gpu is "part" of the chipset, since its soldered onto it, so they treat it as one single unit and not chipset & gpu.

however, in the maintenance guide posted in the OP, it says:
679814-001 System board equipped with the Intel HM65 PCH and 7750M chipset (includes 1 GB of discrete graphics
subsystem memory and replacement thermal material)

so probably theyve mixed up something here, since it differs from the info found in the hp partsurfer, which explicitly says its HM76 (=new chipset coming together with ivy bridge) and not HM65.

 

1 - Die-Shrink.. Within 2 generations of further Die Shrinks, that 7900 desktop GPU will fit in a Mobile Platform.. though its probably 3-4 years off.
2 - That isn't as far-fetched as you might think. Scavenging heat to generate electricity is currently being fielded in Hybrid Cars..
3 - Stranger things have happened..
4 - Actually, they could release a firmware patch that shifts the panel's color pallet a few degrees for certain tones. No reason why not.
5 - They can make any 2" speaker move at 20hz, but it wont push enough air to make a real sub-woofer in a 1" thick case. You need excursion to make that happen, which there just isn't really room for. Bose is fairly good at making wild baffles for small speakers that can hit low notes, but even then, not enough room to work with in a laptop case. I would suggest something that has a lot of snap in the 80-120hz range, would compensate for the lack of low end.

ODD is still a must for Gamers. Unless you buy all of your content on Steam, most of the games out still require the disc in the drive when you want to play. (And install it..) Kinds blows..

 

they could copy something really useful from apple by placing the speakers above the keyboard where there is plenty of space for big enough speakers, and a "real" subwoofer instead of one HDD bay.

i compared the maximum loudness and sound quality of envy 17 3d's beats speakers+"subwoofer" and a 2011 17'' sandy bridge mbp, the same music, side-by-side, and the mbp beats (sic!) hp's "beats" speakers+"subwoofer" by all means.

 

Oh, I see - yes, "Intel 7750M chipset" sounded quite odd considering it would be a departure from their chipset naming conventions.

 

AMD Radeon HD 7770 - Seizing the Day with Cape Verde, the ASUS Way - HardwareZone.com

This is likely the desktop card the 7750m chip is based on.

 

Man i hope so. That 7770 is quite a performance part for the amount of juice it uses. Adapting it to an M part could be fairly easy. As it sits, the 7770 is just 80watts, and the 7750 is only 55w. Those are both within the realm of Laptop thermal cooling capabilities, without so much as a tweak to the chipset!

Can you imagine.. a Desktop grade 7770 in a Sub $1K laptop? That is on equal footing with a Desktop 6870 or 560ti!?!

Makes me giddy for what the 79XX line will bring!

 

If HP wants to sell the Envy internationally they will have to include an ODD. Unlike the US (where there are streaming services like Netflix), most international markets still use DVDs and Blu-rays heavily.

 

What's the best guess as to the release date for the updated 28nm envy 15?

 

I have to burn BD-R discs frequently for work and as inconvenient as it has been at times without an internal optical drive for the past few years, I'm still grateful for the slim form factor of the 2009 model.

There are quite a few inexpensive external USB3.0 BD burners these days, and my understanding is that Apple is also likely to eliminate optical drives from the next iteration of the MBP.

Incidentally, Netflix is expanding to plenty of overseas markets ;-)

I've purchased quite a lot of apps and games over the past several years and even when I had a laptop with internal optical drive, I don't think I bought any packaged retail discs in a box since the early 2000's. Even apps that cost thousands of dollars like the complete CS5 suite, Avid, 3ds Max, etc., were all purchased via instant download.

 

Late April/Early May is a good estimate, because that is when everyone else will be releasing theirs. I can't see a large volume company like HP getting caught late to that party,

The current "new" Envy was pretty much a prototype, if you look at it a certain way.

 

Just like how the Envy 10xx was the guinea pig...

 

How fast this revision arrives likely depends on AMD's release for the mobile GCN chips I guess.

Looks like Intel is playing the Montenvina game again.

The ENVY 15 looks to be postponed???
Intel 'Ivy Bridge' chip delayed, Windows 8 in September, report claims | Business Tech - CNET News

Intel to postpone mass shipments of Ivy Bridge processors

 

Interesting article

I don't get this part - the Ivy Bridge processors will not use USB 3.0? Or are they saying that Sandy Bridge CPUs are using third party USB 3.0 chips and Ivy Bridge will not?

 

Ivy Bridge chipsets have integrated USB3.0, so add-on USB3.0 chip makers cannot sell as large volume of their chips when IB launches.

More:

Intel 'Ivy Bridge' chip delayed, Windows 8 in September, report claims | Business Tech - CNET News

Rumours point to Ivy Bridge delay | bit-tech.net

Rumor: Intel to push back Mac-bound Ivy Bridge chip shipments until June

 

If that's the case, are they going to have a disco party in London upcoming March

and as you have read, they all say DigiTimes is unreliable and it's rumored

 

That rumor is making the rounds pretty quick though. Seeing it spread on most major tech sites.

 

I'll wait until its official before mass hysteria overtakes the site.

Either way its gonna be here eventually and I for one can't wait.

 

Too Late..

(As i hold my freshly-torn-out hair in my hands)

 

Not delayed, at least for QC IB.

Intel is only delaying dual core mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs by VR-Zone.com