New DV6z, suspect temperatures already!

Having just got rid of a dv2104eu, i just got a dv6-1131ea, which is hitting 50-60 when idle, i just fired sims 3 up and it hit 85? Is this normal for a turion RM-75 on it's first day or should I send it back to HP for excess heat?

It doesn't fill me with confidence after my last experience with AMD. The intel DV6799ea with a t8100 is cooler under load than this new baby is when it's idling!

Is it just the way AMD is, or something wrong with my laptop?

 

You talking about your CPU I take it?

85 does seem a little warm if you are; how long had your machine been running & how long were you playing Sim 3 before you noticed the temperature?

 

I literally started the game, moved a family in, and issued a couple of commands and speedfan was showing it at 80-85 on high performance.

The rest of my spec is a Radeon 4530HD 512MB and 4GB RAM so I was surprised that it was that taxing on the CPU. Machine had been running about half an hour before it

I hated the dv2104eu I had before due to the TL-50 getting far too hot recently, I sold it and used the money to buy a new machine, and it just seems like the same over again. I know I should have gone intel, but the only machines with decent graphics I can get in Ireland are AMD based,

We only have DV5t's and DV7t's with pretty weak Nvidia 9200M GS cards (256 on 15" and 512 on 17") or onboard graphics, or DV6t's with low end ATI cards so as I wanted decent graphics had to go with AMD, starting to regret it now

 

Why are you using the high performance power plan? You should use the balanced profile as sims 3 isn't that a demanding game that it would require max cpu constantly.

Also you should invest if you can in a notebook cooler these really help keep temps under control.

 

It's normal. The thermal limit for the AMD Turion is 100C so you'll be alright. You can use this program to undervolt the CPU and drop the temperatures: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4980912&postcount=34

Be sure to test stability with IntelBurnTest (yes it works for AMDs too) to make sure your new voltage settings are stable.

 

I realise that AMD CPUs run hotter than Intel CPUs as a general rule, but a brand new machine running at 85 under what can only be considered a moderate to light load for 30 minutes. Sheesh, that just seems a bit warm for my liking.

Some HP machines do have problems with overheating though.

Investing in a cooler for a notebook is always a good idea to help prolong it's life; but you shouldn't need one.

 

I run it in high performance, as believe it or not Sims 3 does not run as smoothly on annything else, I have to start scaling the graphics down on anything else but on High performance I can run pretty much everything maxed out without any issues.

I was surprised at the fan design on the DV6z, I assumed it might be similar to the dv6799ea we have in the apartment where it has one great big huge vent near the hinges, a grill under underneath, one at an angle on the casing underneath on the back, and one on the side at an angle but no, just a small grill underneath, and one small one on the back and to the side.

Whats always surprised me with the AMD series is there seems to be less grills and smaller ones underneath the notebook, you would have thought there would be more seeing as they tend to pick up more heat!

 

Well, its not too bad if you ask owners of the tx2500/tx2 series. I would say its actually running cool . But generally speaking its HP responsibility to make sure the system runs with resonable temperatures after all it is they who designed and built the laptop no matter what cpu/gpu/chipset is inside. Unfortunately, they dont seem to atleast with their consumer models and even some of their intel based systems run hot.

 

This is it...lots of people are bashing AMD, but lots of people are complaining about heat with their Intel-based CPUs also...same for Macbooks.
I got the DV6Z (artist edition Turion Ultra ZM-82 & HD4650 1 GDDR3)

1st, learn and TEST all your power plan's settings.

EX: I run DOOM3 at max everything (30 minutes gaming period), results follow:

-max power plan: 85 degrees Celsius CPU temps
(game fully fluid no stutter)
-HP recommended: 79 degrees Celsius (fluid no stutter)
-HP recommended + Cheapo Targus notebook cooler 77 degrees.

Now, DVD playback in POWERSAVER mode (CPU downclocked to 550MHz) and ATI POWERPLAY set to save power (no notebook cooler)
I get 54 degrees Celsius CPU temp and 55 degrees GPU temps.
At those temps, the notebook's fan spins real slow and is almost silent.

So please compare apples to apples (and same laptop platform).
Yes AMD CPUs are running a little hotter, because of the 65nm fab process, compared to the LATEST 45nm Intel CPUs.

And yes, AMD is lagging behind in CPU perf ,maybe like 20% for comparable models, same is to be said about the price (same situation for desktop CPUs), and yes, there is no AMD quads in notebooks yet.
Ask me if I care.
If I want to game seriously hours on end, I have an overclocked Intel Quad (3.8GHZ Q9550) and GTX260 SC combo for a desktop.

But I sure appreciate my AMD Turion Ultra / mobility HD4650 when I'm stuck in an hotel for the night, or going on course for a few weeks.
Temperatures can be controlled. There is too many noobs that leave the notebook on a bed or something, or blocking off the vents by keeping the computer on their lap.
Notebooks are to be kept on a hard surface IMHO, unless you start looking for lappies that have no vents underneat and using a "slot cooler" layout.

Remember there is MSI laptops out there with the exhaust vent located on the right side of the enclosure and blow hot air directly on your hand (when using a mouse)...to me it's lot worse than anything HP does...

Temperatures can be controlled.

 

Im kinda of having heating problems with my DV5Z notebook. When its idle its temps are around 58-61C. When watching youtube vids its gets up to 75C and when playing games like COD4 its gets up to 88C sometimes over 90C and the fans are loud at those temps when playing games. I already cleaned the vents and i still get these temps and even undevolting didnt help much and the another thing the battery life pretty much sucks even with the new battery i was only getting like 1 hour and 45 mins on power saver I was going to sell it on ebay since i bought my new toshiba laptop but its no point. Currently its being used as a family computer i had it for almost 1 and a half year now its mostly keep on a notebook cooler. Im suprised its still works but it does gets very hot impossible to put on my lap or on a table. The Cooling system on the DV5 series are very bad that even the intel models with the geforce 9600GTs are having overheating problems. I was going to start a new topic about it but he is having the same overheating problems im having

If you have a HP laptop especially AMD definitely buy a notebook cooler

 

The DV5Z and DV6Z look really similar, I don't know if there is differences between both in reference with the cooling system.

There shoukd be a way to manually override the fan controller and make it to spin faster, to help preventing the temperature to go too high.
I guess that HP chose to adjust fan speed yo keep the noise down unless you run the lappy at max capacity.

They should mod the bios so we have more control over it.
There must be an application somewhere that let us do it.

 

The dv5z has a smaller screen than the dv6z, and they are both custom AMD based models.

I ended up with the dv6z and a 4650 graphics card and I have to say, even for a hot laptop these do run hot. I had to send back my first one because it smelled like a burning hair dryer. Not. Good.

Someone said it should be HP's responsibility to ensure their construction runs smoothly and does not overheat. They have and will continue to argue customers into the ground. It is YOUR responsibility to buy a cooling unit. After all, when you go to the site's checkout it plasters one all over the screen telling you you want one. It's YOUR fault for refusing to get it.

They are not very helpful.

And yeah, I know it's meant to be set on a flat surface. I get that. I put it on one most of the time. Sometimes, however, when I'm doing hours of typing, it's just easier to drop it in my lap to work on what I'm doing. (I have bony wrists and elbows for a fat girl, and how I'm sitting now is just NOT comfortable.) The second I set it in my lap I have to pick it right back up and put it back on the desk, because I have just burned a hole in my left leg.

And the OP has a damn good point. The vents for this fan are tiny. I mean tiny-tiny. I mean microscopic compared to the power it should have.

"Should" being the key word.

OP said the Sims 3 was running slow. That's because of all the junk they stick on your computer. It took me 3 days of work and research to completely purge malware and junkware, and set Vista for its utmost efficiency. These are not user-friendly PCs. My Acer with XP runs faster with way more files on it and a smaller hard drive. Not surprisingly, Even after I dumped everything off of this, 50% of the hard drive is still being used. Balls.

Feel free to make a suggestion for me over what computer to get next time: yorubikari at Gmail dot com. I'm really disappointed in this brand and model.

 

You need a laptop tray of some kind. Barnes & Noble stocks some interesting ones. My Dad just uses an old board across his lap while he's on his recliner.

Windows 7 makes a significant difference on my dv4z. It fixes much of Vista's brain damage and manages Turion CPUs more efficiently. I did a clean install rather than an upgrade.