New Envy 15 with i5 and HD5830!!!

Try clicking one of the 4 DIMM configs and it gives you an error telling you to select an i7 system.

 

Wow, good to know. Thanks.

Also.. Has there been word on whether or not these new Envy systems will have USB 3.0?

"Hewlett-Packard on Wednesday said it has added USB 3.0 ports to its latest laptops that could boost data transfers between computers and devices such as storage drives and digital cameras."

"HP is now offering an Envy 15 laptop model with USB 3.0 connectors, and Acer was showing a raft of laptops on the CES show floor with the new standard, including the NX90Jq."

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10428132-269.html

Seems like now would be as good of a time as any to add USB 3.0 along with the other revisions.

 

http://xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/news/2010-01/ati_radeon_mobility_5000_specs_bg.gif&1=1

Nice chart, not sure if its already been posted. The 5830 is a really nice part with an excellent TDP rating.

 

EDIT: Thanks lewdvig, I rechecked, and got it wrong, thanks!

 

Try again. The chart and ATI itself say the 5830 Mobility having 800 shaders. The main difference between the 5830 and the 5850/5870 are the clocks and the 5830 can only do GDDR3. The other two can do GDDR5.

 

Edited the post above, got it wrong, thanks for the clarification, but the 5830 can run either GDDR3 or DDR3.

 

I couldn't find about USB 3.0 on HP website and Envy's specs. It already come out or it's just coming?

 

True. That'd be a good thing to know, which flavor they chose for the Envy. And what the performance considerations are with each... I think GDDR3 is faster, but I don't know.

 

I think the promotion is gone. I couldnot use that anymore

 

Ok 3 questions.

1. The anti-glare screen, Does it have a grainy effect on the screen?
2. How much battery life do you get with using just intel hd graphics? and what about with the extra battery slice?
3. Did they go away with the Design on the lid and arm wrest? in the little pictures on the site it looks like its just plain now.

 

Post this in the Envy 15 owners thread It'll help us get some info from HP.

 

DDR3 is my 4830HD, chances are the 5830HD will be the same.

 

The 4830's memory ran at 800mhz didn't it? I'm not sure GDDR3 would be much faster if that is the case.

 

In theory bears a 10% increase. Just ran 3DMark06 here on my Envy i7 720and 4830 and got 7170 points, pretty lacking if you ask me...

 

Considering that it's a 15" laptop that's 1" thick... I think it's freakin' amazing. Around the speed of a desktop 4670, which is impressive. And the 5830 should be a lot faster, what with 800 shaders instead of 640, and so on.

 

Your kidding right? Find me another notebook that is 1'' thick and less than 6 lbs that can do that.

 

I meant that the DDR3 and 128bit bus are crippling the GPU...

 

Yes. But the 5830 is a 24W part. The 5850 is something like 35W. The performance/watt of the 5830 is awesome. ATI just makes clear lines on why the 5830 can't just be overclocked to a 5850

 

Dang missed the coupon, buy the time i got around to order it, coupon no work. Oh well.

 

Should I buy this envy 15 for $1400 with tax or sony vaio cw i5 with GT 330M for $1200 with tax...

 

The 5830 is a MUCH faster card than the 330M. Check the specs, see if the HP is better than the Sony in ways that you care about

 

If anyone still wants to order with the coupon just call up and talk to a CSR. I placed my order about an hour ago and still used the coupon over the phone with no problems.

Can't wait for the Envy 15! I'm replacing an Asus which is only about a year old but already failing.

 

but is it hot compared to sony laptops. Sony is well known for their heat exhaust system..

 

The first gen ones apparently got fairly hot. But given that the i5 is lower wattage than the i7, as is the 5830 (I think), it should run cooler with this revision.

 

i5 is 35 watt included with 45mm graphic controller,so whenever im on battery i can switch to the onboard instead of discrete, does this mean the battery will extend

 

Yup. The 35W rating for the i5 includes the GPU, so it'll completely shut off the 5830 when you switch (which is up to 24W by itself, I believe). It's a 45nm process, btw The CPU is at 35nm, but all the chips together can dissipate up to 35W. I know, it can be confusing.

 

how about the battery life ,how long would it last after a full charge

 

Wish I knew. Brand new laptop design... it'll do better than the old Envy, but that's the only thing anyone knows for sure.

 

With the old version (4830, i7) users were reporting around the 2 - 3 hour mark with wifi on and light usage using the 6 cell battery. With the slice, off the top of my head it was around the 5 - 6 hour mark with wifi and light usage.

With the new revision and i5 with integrated graphics, I reckon you should be able to get 3 - 4 hours of light use including wifi on with the 6 cell battery. Again, this hasn't been proven yet, just kinda makes sense.

 

I'd go with the Envy. The 330M is just a 230M with a few extra MHz, and the 230M gets about 5500 3DMarks (06 version) - so the 330M will be 6000 or so. Based on Serg's post, and the shader increase, we can reasonably expect something in the ballpark of 9000 for the new Envy. That's 50% better graphics (approx.), without the benefit of DirectX 11 in the Envy (330M is DX 10.1). Not to mention the USB 3.0 ports, which will come in handy when that becomes more common in a year or two. Assuming all else is equal, I'd go with the Envy for that cost difference given these differences.

 

Wow, sony has some really reasonable upgrade prices. Blu ray for 90 bucks, 4 gigs of ram for 20. 540M for $50. Really nice. I might check out what that thing comes out to with a student discount. It could end up being a really good deal.

Edit: Not really. There is no real student discount for the CW, and it ocmes out to the same price as base model Envy 15 with 1080p display and $300 coupon. It weighs slightly more, and you make huge sacrifices wrt the LCD and video card and the only real benefit is the Blu Ray. Like I said before, getting rid of the internal optical drive is a good thing.

 

I wonder when it will be available in UK

 

Is this $300 off from USD 1299? So, it would be USD 999?
How do I get this offer?

Thanks in advance.

 

So I just called them, and they confirmed to me that all new envy 15 models will be shipping with USB 3.0 ports.

 

The coupon has expired to my knowledge. Some people have had luck calling customer service with the coupon code, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

I couldnot find the information about USB 3.0 on HP website. Where did you get it from? Please tell me.

 

If I still want HP Envy i7 model, it still has a heat issue? I need to order i5 model to make it run cooler?

 

Not sure. No specs out on the new models yet, if the cooling performance has changed or anything. The 5830 should dissipate about the same amount of heat as the 4830, so I the machine will probably still get hot. I mean... you are talking about a 45W CPU (vs the i5 35W) and a ~25W GPU being mounted in a 15" chassis. And with the i7 models there isn't an integrated GPU like there is on the i5, so you can't even reduce the heat by turning off the Radeon when you don't need the graphics performance.

 

It is still working.

Just ordered i5/500gb/1080p matte/externalCDRW for $1197

 

For those who uses the i5 and limited to only buy 4GB, I wonder if the ENVY support a single 4GB bar to make it 8GB max?

 

It should. It's just that 4GB sticks are what, $200 or more each? 4GB is quite a bit of RAM

 

Wait this new i5 is only limited to 4gb of ram or is it more? I know I read the i7 model had what 3 ram slots(or was it 4), does this have less?

 

This model, if you choose i5, you can only configure it with max 4GB RAM

 

....Fixed

 

Yes. The i5 motherboards only have 2 RAM slots. It's reasonable to believe that they'll support 4GB modules, but you can only configure the machines with 4GB total (2x2GB) from HP.

 

HM55 has only 2 memory slots. They are integrated. For Arrandale.
PM55 has up to 4 memory slots. For Clarksfield.

 

Thank you for clearing that up. So, HP only gives us a max of 4gb, presumably to keep prices low, but what is the max the mobo/chipset can handle? I want to say 8gb because 4gbx2, but it could be more?

 

Not really. It is down to the motherboard manufacturer to decide the # of ram slots, etc. PM55 and HM55 both can be used for i7/i5 configurations. There is a small difference between them but it is down to the manufacturer to decide which one to use.



Intel HM55 Specs | Intel HM55 Overview

Intel PM55 Specs | Intel PM55 Overview

 

14 and 12 numbers for USB 2.0 Ports? Those seem like desktop specs, with the 8 PCI-E 2.0....would be kinda massive for a laptop...lol But I see your point.

EDIT: Strange, Intel says 14 USB 2.0 are supported for mobile chipsets...

 

Maybe its for those huge 18+ in multimedia laptops?